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[skylark]

*'Many people are just beginning to 'wake up' to the idea of how brainwashed we've been**
...By all of the False Histories/our Cultural Institutions'/and Controls/repression being put on us/'Sweeps'

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UPDATE FROM DR. SALLA’S SOURCES 18 Feb. 2008

-REALLY…A ‘MUST READ’-but beware of the interpretation placed on it-/’S’

Edited/Summarized by ‘Sweeps’ Fox

ADDENDUM:

The real date of contact is 2017. It is on this date when very large crafts will appear above cities and sit. There will be NO use of force; they will just sit there. …it is our choice how we embrace this contact.

The ET's who will arrive on 2017 are referred to as ‘The Controllers’, They are a
’galactic federation’ type group…BUT, ‘galactic federation is not the real
name for their group--it is hypothetical name used as a reference.

The controllers have a keen sense of freedom and free will. They will not intervene…NOR humanity if humanity does not show them we want their help.

Otherwise…If some entropic event happens, I.E. Nuclear War… the controllers
will not make contact. This is something they will not tolerate…our source stated

A contentious moment in the meeting had to do with the religious implications of contact. It is this issue which seems to be of most concern.

Our source stated that the more secular societies will adjust more easily to contact than the fundamentalists forms.

He also stated:
MAYBE…‘The Roman Catholic countries’ will not have a rough time…except for the population problem. The Roman Catholics already have three Gods in one, so accepting others is not that much of a stretch.

*’Sweeps’ NOTE here:
This-above conclusion-is absurd! ALL Religions base their beliefs on being ‘Special’…and founded on ‘Their’ handed down power directly from ‘GOD’, which they have used as the pretext for murdering, enslaving, and generally gaining power and control in the world. Their false foundations have afflicted Humankind with subjugation based on ‘pious Lies’…and cut ‘US’ off from ‘The Boundless’…in each of us./’S’**

The dividing point…NOW the article goes on…is going to be the containment of
population. The Protestant countries will deal fairly easily with contact. So will
countries with indigenous religions connected to nature.

The Muslim, Hindu, and fundamentalist Christian religions will have the most difficult time… possibly even the elimination of said religions.

We can expect mass suicides, social unrest, and upheaval.

The ETs will help with re-programming… and the concept of an inclusive
galactic order. However…society will have to step up to the plate to assist - one on one - those people who have shattered belief systems.

The Chinese will have no problem…because of the Buddhist and Taoist influences.

***Well so goes the article/’S’

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*'Sweeps' Fox NOTE:

2013 thru 2017-YEARS FOR ‘OPEN’ CONTACT WITH UFO’s/ET’s

...Advised-that readers...should 'Do' this entire article'...GET PREPARED FOLKS*
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Dr. Michael E. Salla…Is one of the early pioneers/Founders of 'Exopolitics'.
’Exopolitics’…is described as…the scholarly study of the main actors, institutions and political processes associated with extraterrestrial life. His groundbreaking Implications of the Extraterrestrial Presence…provides the first ‘really’ scholarly framework for understanding the political implications of the extraterrestrial presence on our planet. His investigations of the sources disclosed certain aspects of our international conflicts… and their relationship with an undisclosed/non-admitted extraterrestrial presence. Dr. Salla cites evidence of as many as seventeen different extraterrestrial civilizations currently interacting with humanity in a variety of ways. He says that a number of other civilizations are simply monitoring the Earth. Dr. Salla was also a guest on ‘The Sweeps Fox Show’ …AND we have enjoyed much correspondence through the years. Thanks…now ‘Listen up’ to what is being told us. What he says now from his ‘SECRET’ sources…has Profound importance for all of us/’S’

*DR. SALLA’S SOURCE REVEALS A SECRET U.N./UFO MEETING-12 FEB. 2008

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-AND DR. SALLA POSTED THIS ‘URGENT’ INFORMATION ON ‘CONTACT’:

I received the following email from two trusted colleagues (Clay and Shawn Pickering) regarding a reliable source informing them that a secret meeting occurred yesterday morning (Feb 12) at the New York office of the United Nations concerning the recent spate of UFO sightings. It appears that a number of nation states are concerned about the impact of increased UFO sightings and wish to be briefed about what is happening.

Their source, who currently works in the diplomatic corps, had to travel for an early morning off the record meeting at the UN. Their source revealed that a secret UFO working group exists that is authorizing the release of such information to the public, in an effort to acclimate others to what is about to unfold.

A DATE OF 2013 was given as the time for official disclosure and/or when extraterrestrials show up in an unambiguous way. In the interim there will be acclimation related releases of information. Importantly, the source revealed that the events leading up to official disclosure will involve more ethically oriented extraterrestrials, and they will not pose a military threat to the world.

The information below may be related to the recent debate in the Japanese parliament and statements by the Defense Minister over how Japan would respond to extraterrestrials appearing over Japanese airspace that display peaceful intent. It appears nation states are moving forward in developing public policy on how to respond to extraterrestrials showing up.

So if the information below is accurate, then it is likely that we will see more examples of governments making official statements concerning how they would respond to extraterrestrials that show up over their airspace. It is likely that parliamentarians around the world will start receiving briefings to help them develop public policy concerning extraterrestrial life.

Such briefings will probably extend to prominent media sources who will give more coverage to UFO sightings in popular media outlets such as Larry King Live.

Increased media reports will first likely lead to disclosures of secret antigravity technologies that have been withheld for over 50 years, as a prelude to the official ‘disclsoure of extraterresrial life’. The source's reference to suicides is probably related to those who will learn that much of what they have learned and believed over a lifetime was a lie.

The 1961 Brookings Report referred to scientists as being most vulnerable to the disclosure of extraterrestrial life since it will make redundant many of the cherished scientific theories and models held by this community.

Overall, it appears that a countdown is underway to official disclosure around 2013, and that nation states and the UN are being briefed. The acclimation process will accelerate over the next five years as UFO sightings increase around the globe forcing governments to make public policy statements on UFOs and extraterrestrial life.

*CLICK below on ‘My Webpage’…for the complete story:

My Webpage

*CLICK below-‘My Webpage’…for Dr. Salla’s JOURNAL-‘ET’s among us’:
My Webpage

-MORE FROM 'Sweeps' Fox...on this whole important...World shaking Topic:

[/b]SO, WHEN WILL THE ‘STAR VISITORS’/E’T’s MAKE A BIG PUBLIC APPEARANCE?

[b]When will they make themselves popularly known round the ‘globe’? Well, think about it. On our last ‘Sweeps Fox Show’-global and internet Radio, we recounted the ‘Tall Whites’…extraterrestrials…walking about quite freely on Nellis Air Force Base and areas near Area 51 near to Indian Springs Nevada. We also informed a VAST world audience that ‘they’ were also walking around among us in Las Vegas…though in disguise…which they seem quite capable of doing. The ‘Nordic’ ET species are commonly ‘out and about’, not only in Scandinavia but in Wisconsin U.S.A.

AND, we have mentioned the SAMMI dwarf like ET’s in Finland and around the Artic Circle areas in Lapland. These Sammi folk have intermingled/interacted with locals there for generations at least, and are WELL KNOWN as ET’s.

Then there is the revelation from Helen Littrell, telling about a revelation to her by a Colonel Harry Nadien. He is an Air Force Colonel in ‘the secret’/’deadly force’-keep out citizens facility north of Area 51 in Nevada. He confirms that, just ‘like’ in the movies MIB and MIB 2, that this 4 corners area is (and has been) serving as an ‘Ambassadorial receiving area’ for different species of ‘ALIEN’ coming and going from this planet.
We, the people of Earth, have been having different very ‘humanoid’ groups of ET’s walking amidst us for long periods in these ‘modern times’…never mind all the past civilizations and their own MYTHS of consorting with ‘Gods from the sky’, and ‘them’ consorting with our women folk considerably.

We also know now from Helen Littrel and Jean Bilodeaux’s book ‘Rachael’s Eyes, that a Zeta Reticuli hybrid girl named Rachael actually went to a California College with them and lived in a rented flat. The book is quite relevant to ‘them’ living, working, and walking among us….and for the most part undetected! Keep your own senses and eyes open. They are not that rare…in our range of day to day existence. We will feature the book ‘Rachael’s Eyes’ in our next ‘Newsletter’.

So, as Dr. Richard Boylan has remarked paraphrased, ‘why should WE expect them to ‘land on the White House Lawn’ or ‘come out in the open’ when they seem quite comfortable/able to sus us out by being here and going out meeting us everyday’. What would the purpose be? Perhaps it’s not the time for public full disclosure, but it sure is inevitable. Remember, the government and the ‘black project/cabal boys and gals are persistently now trying to come up with the BIG plan for ‘Disclosure’…but they face the dilemma of just how to ‘wiggle off the hook’ of the big lie they’ve been hiding and cloaked in for over 57 years now in MODERN times.

Meanwhile, the ‘disinformationists’ at SETI-radio astronomers- you know are still probing the ‘heavens’ trying to locate any signs of sentient life. What garbage. How about…’How many of US are possibly hybrid descendents of their interaction with the Human race already? Things to ponder. But, we here at Irishufology.net will be investigating, and bringing all of the world’s people up to date on several ET species which we know of. Look forward, please, to our following shows. It’s preparation time for the world. Some will want this knowledge. Yes, I said facts. Some don’t want to know, and shatter their ‘stable sameness’ one reality world view. Still, it’s better to be prepared. At least listen in and watch what we are now disclosing and investigating. As we say…’Tune in, Turn on, and ‘Take off’…with ‘The Sweeps Fox Show’…and our many world wide guests of professional and renown repute in this field.

We also now have knowledge of ‘The Apunians’ which are believed…by many of their ‘contactees’ to be a kind of race/species of ‘people’ originating from the direction of Andromeda…our nearest/next whole GALAXY. Apunians say that their ancestors had visited Earth in very ancient times, locating in places we now refer to as Mexico & Peru…among others in the Southern Hemisphere.

Contactees like Vlado Kapetanovic (an electrical engineer from Yugoslavia born in 1918 and worked in a hydroelectric plant in Peru), who spent many physical contact hours in Peru with these ET’s, states they originated/live on a planet ‘they’ call APU. His contact with ‘them’ began in March of 1960. The Apunians claim to be responsible for the ‘Nazca Lines’, the stone wall cities such as Cuzco, and that their race inhabit many worlds. These ‘Aliens’ are, as claimed by many of the contactees, much more disposed to human contact and are a highly evolved species. Locals, in many areas of Peru, claim that ‘they’ DO heal the sick & have returned from a long absence HERE to help the evolution of the Human Race. Apparently ‘they’ walk and live among us, much as other ET species…now be reported.

**Many ‘Humanoid appearing species’ have been encountered by the public at large-and reported. We have to take note of the Humanoid looking 'Adamski' and Billy Meier Species. How many of us know about these reports? The world Governments ‘in the know’…have actually/quite secretly of course….estimated over 100 other ALIEN Species are probably near/on/or around our Planet. Some do have liaisons with Governments/black ops/the military…etc.
*Police artist sketch of a 'Tall White'  Tall_Wite_Alien_by_Police_artistLynette_Ruiz_Anaheim_CALIFORNIA__PD.jpg   17.96KB   213 downloads
*Artist sketch of an ET seen in Holland 2004  ET_Type_seen__in__Holland_2004.gif   5.11KB   185 downloads
*The widely reported/experienced 'GREYS'  EBE_PHOTO_USED_BY_AMOCO.jpg   7.13KB   192 downloads
*Artist sketch of an Alien/Human Hybrid  ALIEN_HYBRID.jpg   10.38KB   203 downloads
[b]We also have abundant reports of EBE's-Extra Biological Entities-which seem to 'pop in' and OUT, but seen by many in different countries/forms. Many are fully documented/reported on...but governments and the 'World Controlled Media'...counts on time passing/failing memories/etc. There is seldom any follow up in major world Media...WE ALL KNOW!!
*The Chupacabras...fully noted/documented in Puerto Rico  UFO__002.jpg   15.2KB   180 downloads
[b]How many of the ET's can actually blend in though. AND...what about 'Shape Shifting'?

The ‘Era Swing’ consciousness and ‘mind explosion’ is just around the corner. What it will mean, and how it will effect YOU, are good questions and reasons to keep tuned. And we want your viewpoints, and your input. Thanks.

[skylark]

*'Many people are just beginning to 'wake up' to the idea of how brainwashed we've been**
...By all of the False Histories/our Cultural Institutions'/and Controls/repression being put on us/'Sweeps'

 WHAT_WE_BELIEVE.jpg   5.48KB   2466 downloads

*'Sweeps' Fox NOTE:

2013-YEAR FOR ‘OPEN’ CONTACT WITH UFO’s/ET’s

...Advised readers...should 'Do this entire article'...GET PREPARED FOLKS*
 DOCTOR_SALLA_PHOTO.jpg   56.32KB   77 downloads

Dr. Michael E. Salla…Is one of the early pioneers/Founders of 'Exopolitics'.
’Exopolitics’…is described as…the scholarly study of the main actors, institutions and political processes associated with extraterrestrial life. His groundbreaking Implications of the Extraterrestrial Presence…provides the first ‘really’ scholarly framework for understanding the political implications of the extraterrestrial presence on our planet. His investigations of the sources disclosed certain aspects of our international conflicts… and their relationship with an undisclosed/non-admitted extraterrestrial presence. Dr. Salla cites evidence of as many as seventeen different extraterrestrial civilizations currently interacting with humanity in a variety of ways. He says that a number of other civilizations are simply monitoring the Earth. Dr. Salla was also a guest on ‘The Sweeps Fox Show’…AND we have enjoyed much correspondence through the years. Thanks…now ‘Listen up’ to what is being told us. What he says now from his ‘SECRET’ sources…has Profound importance for all of us/’S’

*DR. SALLA’S SOURCE REVEALS A SECRET U.N./UFO MEETING-12 FEB. 2008

 SAUCER_OVER_UN_PHOTO.jpg   85.83KB   86 downloads

-AND DR. SALLA POSTED THIS ‘URGENT’ INFORMATION ON ‘CONTACT’:

I received the following email from two trusted colleagues (Clay and Shawn Pickering) regarding a reliable source informing them that a secret meeting occurred yesterday morning (Feb 12) at the New York office of the United Nations concerning the recent spate of UFO sightings. It appears that a number of nation states are concerned about the impact of increased UFO sightings and wish to be briefed about what is happening.

Their source, who currently works in the diplomatic corps, had to travel for an early morning off the record meeting at the UN. Their source revealed that a secret UFO working group exists that is authorizing the release of such information to the public, in an effort to acclimate others to what is about to unfold.

A DATE OF 2013 was given as the time for official disclosure and/or when extraterrestrials show up in an unambiguous way. In the interim there will be acclimation related releases of information. Importantly, the source revealed that the events leading up to official disclosure will involve more ethically oriented extraterrestrials, and they will not pose a military threat to the world.

The information below may be related to the recent debate in the Japanese parliament and statements by the Defense Minister over how Japan would respond to extraterrestrials appearing over Japanese airspace that display peaceful intent. It appears nation states are moving forward in developing public policy on how to respond to extraterrestrials showing up.

So if the information below is accurate, then it is likely that we will see more examples of governments making official statements concerning how they would respond to extraterrestrials that show up over their airspace. It is likely that parliamentarians around the world will start receiving briefings to help them develop public policy concerning extraterrestrial life.

Such briefings will probably extend to prominent media sources who will give more coverage to UFO sightings in popular media outlets such as Larry King Live.

Increased media reports will first likely lead to disclosures of secret antigravity technologies that have been withheld for over 50 years, as a prelude to the official ‘disclsoure of extraterresrial life’. The source's reference to suicides is probably related to those who will learn that much of what they have learned and believed over a lifetime was a lie.

The 1961 Brookings Report referred to scientists as being most vulnerable to the disclosure of extraterrestrial life since it will make redundant many of the cherished scientific theories and models held by this community.

Overall, it appears that a countdown is underway to official disclosure around 2013, and that nation states and the UN are being briefed. The acclimation process will accelerate over the next five years as UFO sightings increase around the globe forcing governments to make public policy statements on UFOs and extraterrestrial life.

*CLICK below on ‘My Webpage’…for the complete story:

My Webpage

*CLICK below-‘My Webpage’…for Dr. Salla’s JOURNAL-‘ET’s among us’:
My Webpage

-MORE FROM 'Sweeps' Fox...on this whole important...World shaking Topic:

[/b]SO, WHEN WILL THE ‘STAR VISITORS’/E’T’s MAKE A BIG PUBLIC APPEARANCE?

When will they make themselves popularly known round the ‘globe’? Well, think about it. On our last ‘Sweeps Fox Show’-global and internet Radio, we recounted the ‘Tall Whites’…extraterrestrials…walking about quite freely on Nellis Air Force Base and areas near Area 51 near to Indian Springs Nevada. We also informed a VAST world audience that ‘they’ were also walking around among us in Las Vegas…though in disguise…which they seem quite capable of doing. The ‘Nordic’ ET species are commonly ‘out and about’, not only in Scandinavia but in Wisconsin U.S.A.

AND, we have mentioned the SAMMI dwarf like ET’s in Finland and around the Artic Circle areas in Lapland. These Sammi folk have intermingled/interacted with locals there for generations at least, and are WELL KNOWN as ET’s.

Then there is the revelation from Helen Littrell, telling about a revelation to her by a Colonel Harry Nadien. He is an Air Force Colonel in ‘the secret’/’deadly force’-keep out citizens facility north of Area 51 in Nevada. He confirms that, just ‘like’ in the movies MIB and MIB 2, that this 4 corners area is (and has been) serving as an ‘Ambassadorial receiving area’ for different species of ‘ALIEN’ coming and going from this planet.
We, the people of Earth, have been having different very ‘humanoid’ groups of ET’s walking amidst us for long periods in these ‘modern times’…never mind all the past civilizations and their own MYTHS of consorting with ‘Gods from the sky’, and ‘them’ consorting with our women folk considerably.

We also know now from Helen Littrel and Jean Bilodeaux’s book ‘Rachael’s Eyes, that a Zeta Reticuli hybrid girl named Rachael actually went to a California College with them and lived in a rented flat. The book is quite relevant to ‘them’ living, working, and walking among us….and for the most part undetected! Keep your own senses and eyes open. They are not that rare…in our range of day to day existence. We will feature the book ‘Rachael’s Eyes’ in our next ‘Newsletter’.

So, as Dr. Richard Boylan has remarked paraphrased, ‘why should WE expect them to ‘land on the White House Lawn’ or ‘come out in the open’ when they seem quite comfortable/able to sus us out by being here and going out meeting us everyday’. What would the purpose be? Perhaps it’s not the time for public full disclosure, but it sure is inevitable. Remember, the government and the ‘black project/cabal boys and gals are persistently now trying to come up with the BIG plan for ‘Disclosure’…but they face the dilemma of just how to ‘wiggle off the hook’ of the big lie they’ve been hiding and cloaked in for over 57 years now in MODERN times.

Meanwhile, the ‘disinformationists’ at SETI-radio astronomers- you know are still probing the ‘heavens’ trying to locate any signs of sentient life. What garbage. How about…’How many of US are possibly hybrid descendents of their interaction with the Human race already? Things to ponder. But, we here at Irishufology.net will be investigating, and bringing all of the world’s people up to date on several ET species which we know of. Look forward, please, to our following shows. It’s preparation time for the world. Some will want this knowledge. Yes, I said facts. Some don’t want to know, and shatter their ‘stable sameness’ one reality world view. Still, it’s better to be prepared. At least listen in and watch what we are now disclosing and investigating. As we say…’Tune in, Turn on, and ‘Take off’…with ‘The Sweeps Fox Show’…and our many world wide guests of professional and renown repute in this field.

We also now have knowledge of ‘The Apunians’ which are believed…by many of their ‘contactees’ to be a kind of race/species of ‘people’ originating from the direction of Andromeda…our nearest/next whole GALAXY. Apunians say that their ancestors had visited Earth in very ancient times, locating in places we now refer to as Mexico & Peru…among others in the Southern Hemisphere.

Contactees like Vlado Kapetanovic (an electrical engineer from Yugoslavia born in 1918 and worked in a hydroelectric plant in Peru), who spent many physical contact hours in Peru with these ET’s, states they originated/live on a planet ‘they’ call APU. His contact with ‘them’ began in March of 1960. The Apunians claim to be responsible for the ‘Nazca Lines’, the stone wall cities such as Cuzco, and that their race inhabit many worlds. These ‘Aliens’ are, as claimed by many of the contactees, much more disposed to human contact and are a highly evolved species. Locals, in many areas of Peru, claim that ‘they’ DO heal the sick & have returned from a long absence HERE to help the evolution of the Human Race. Apparently ‘they’ walk and live among us, much as other ET species…now be reported.

**Many ‘Humanoid appearing species’ have been encountered by the public at large-and reported. We have to take note of the Humanoid looking 'Adamski' and Billy Meier Species. How many of us know about these reports? The world Governments ‘in the know’…have actually/quite secretly of course….estimated over 100 other ALIEN Species are probably near/on/or around our Planet. Some do have liaisons with Governments/black ops/the military…etc.
*Police artist sketch of a 'Tall White'  Tall_Wite_Alien_by_Police_artistLynette_Ruiz_Anaheim_CALIFORNIA__PD.jpg   17.96KB   213 downloads
*Artist sketch of an ET seen in Holland 2004  ET_Type_seen__in__Holland_2004.gif   5.11KB   185 downloads
*The widely reported/experienced 'GREYS'  EBE_PHOTO_USED_BY_AMOCO.jpg   7.13KB   192 downloads
*Artist sketch of an Alien/Human Hybrid  ALIEN_HYBRID.jpg   10.38KB   203 downloads
[b]We also have abundant reports of EBE's-Extra Biological Entities-which seem to 'pop in' and OUT, but seen by many in different countries/forms. Many are fully documented/reported on...but governments and the 'World Controlled Media'...counts on time passing/failing memories/etc. There is seldom any follow up in major world Media...WE ALL KNOW!!
*The Chupacabras...fully noted/documented in Puerto Rico  UFO__002.jpg   15.2KB   180 downloads
[b]How many of the ET's can actually blend in though. AND...what about 'Shape Shifting'?

The ‘Era Swing’ consciousness and ‘mind explosion’ is just around the corner. What it will mean, and how it will effect YOU, are good questions and reasons to keep tuned. And we want your viewpoints, and your input. Thanks.

[b]*'Sweeps' NOTE:
...This TOPIC has now been UPDATED....with the year 2013...to KEEP IN MIND, and make preparations.
Check out the Main Theme Page folks-Thanks/'S'

[captain]

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
...This TOPIC has now been UPDATED....with the year 2013...to KEEP IN MIND, and make preparations.
Check out the Main Theme Page folks-Thanks/'S'

-Very strange ALL,
A few days ago-NASA sent up a Space Rocket with a 'BEATLE'S SONG'-that will play around the Solar System. Don't be impatient! NOW-this SONG-is it a MESSAGE to the ET's? Is it NOT a Synchonisity that this should happen JUST AFTER the UN Meeting 'Sweeps' MENTIONS in this Topic.
OK-See what you think:
-Click on the 'my webpage' link to listen to the Beatle's Song sent aloft:

My Webpage

[skylark]

-Very strange ALL,
A few days ago-NASA sent up a Space Rocket with a 'BEATLE'S SONG'-that will play around the Solar System. Don't be impatient! NOW-this SONG-is it a MESSAGE to the ET's? Is it NOT a Synchonisity that this should happen JUST AFTER the UN Meeting 'Sweeps' MENTIONS in this Topic.
OK-See what you think:
-Click on the 'my webpage' link to listen to the Beatle's Song sent aloft:

My Webpage

*YEP Cap, ...
...That SONG says a lot.
NOW...I've put up an addendum, a clarification/more information from Dr. Salla's Sources re the UN Meeting. It's at the top of the Main Topic Page. I'd advise all to read it through. It changes a few things, and should be 'taken on board'...as Preparation But...make up your own minds as to the analysis by 'His' Sources. Mine are quite different...based on my own experience. Thanks/'S'

[simple simon]

Hi folks.

I see these dates of 2013 and 2017 as part of NWO hogwash.

Indeed all this represents what TPTB would like to see - by 2017 the upheavals should be over and they are hoping that they will be in power.

Meanwhile, contact has happened... albeit in a limited semi-covert way - plus, of course through the human female's womb! (Indigo Children, etc)



The topic of how people of different religions will cope is contentious. This is something which will, for some people, be very challenging. But at least in part this will be because of the realisation that in times past there has been much deceit.

Simon.

Edited by simple simon, 25 February 2008 - 04:24 PM.

[skylark]

Hi folks.

I see these dates of 2013 and 2017 as part of NWO hogwash.

Indeed all this represents what TPTB would like to see - by 2017 the upheavals should be over and they are hoping that they will be in power.

Meanwhile, contact has happened... albeit in a limited semi-covert way - plus, of course through the human female's womb! (Indigo Children, etc)
The topic of how people of different religions will cope is contentious. This is something which will, for some people, be very challenging. But at least in part this will be because of the realisation that in times past there has been much deceit.

Simon.

*Simon,
...Did you read the entire article/inclusive of Dr. Salla's statements and sources secreted in the UN Meeting?
I know Dr. Salla quite well-did Shows with him/etc. He puts his 'Exopolitics' reputation/credentials 'on the line'...each time he comes forward with 'Disclosure News'. NOW...the NWO doesn't subcribe to 'Disclosure'...accept maybe when forced/nudged into some sort of acclimation program. We have to be careful of ALL information in any arena where 'Disclosure' is an end game. But, I'd trust Dr. Salla and his associates at a high percentage of 'Integrity' than those of a 'Loose Indigo Kid'...in your other thread...who may be a product of a whole bevy of writers...tryhing to confuse US further.
Dr. Salla...also writes of the ET's/different species which ALREADY walk among us. I'd share more of this privately...but just to say to you...'based on my own experiences', He hasn't exaggerated that claim nor not researched it very well.
Still I have every respect for your own 'Take' and approach to all of this. I also give a lot of weight to many of the 'Conspiracy' theories...and know of a few of them as accurate too. Thanks/'S'

[simple simon]

*Simon,
...Did you read the entire article/inclusive of Dr. Salla's statements and sources secreted in the UN Meeting?
I know Dr. Salla quite well-did Shows with him/etc. He puts his 'Exopolitics' reputation/credentials 'on the line'...each time he comes forward with 'Disclosure News'. NOW...the NWO doesn't subcribe to 'Disclosure'...accept maybe when forced/nudged into some sort of acclimation program. We have to be careful of ALL information in any arena where 'Disclosure' is an end game. But, I'd trust Dr. Salla and his associates at a high percentage of 'Integrity' than those of a 'Loose Indigo Kid'...in your other thread...who may be a product of a whole bevy of writers...tryhing to confuse US further.
Dr. Salla...also writes of the ET's/different species which ALREADY walk among us. I'd share more of this privately...but just to say to you...'based on my own experiences', He hasn't exaggerated that claim nor not researched it very well.
Still I have every respect for your own 'Take' and approach to all of this. I also give a lot of weight to many of the 'Conspiracy' theories...and know of a few of them as accurate too. Thanks/'S'

Hi Sweeps, and all,

I admit that I have only fully read your article this evening, as I was at work when I posted that previous message and did so between answering the phone and other work duties.

However, I saw Dr Salla's article several days ago - its just that its taken me a few days to be able to find time to react to it. I am on his yahoo list, and although I am mostly a silent member (ie: read only) today I made a rare posting of a message saying something very similar to my comments as above.

I have every confidence that the article as shared by Mr Salla is essentially accurate and that in sharing the article he is very much acting in good faith. But I see the UN as a compromised / infiltrated organisation and suspect that what is happening is that the NWO are trying to control events.

Another reason why I am so sceptical is because of all the contacts you list on this page. There are so many different 'peoples' already here that to my mind contact has already happened.

OK, so the main thrust of this article is about full public disclosure, and the implication of the article is that there are human decision makers who have the power to decide when it will happen. Otherwise, why are they telling us 2017? (or in other words, from whom did they source this date?)

To my thinking disclosure could come this very evening - if the 'right' political leaders were to stand up and start talking. We both know that the chances of this happening are virtually zero!

As for the NWO people being concerned about their personal safety; well, yes, I see their point. I've heard it said that but for the fear retribution there are some people within TPTB who would be willing to release *some* information and *some* technologies at the present time.

So as much as I do not want to see them escape justice for the murders etc., committed to keep advanced technologies under wraps I do see some benefit in a South African style 'Truth and Reconciliation' event. Similar was also done for the IRA in Northern Ireland and might be part of the way to solve the Middle East situation. So there is a historical precedent.

In saying this I am being pragmatic. It would be a peaceable way forward. From what I have heard about N. Ireland I suspect however that many of the the loved ones of the victims they have killed and maimed will not be happy with this solution.

My views are coloured by the simple fact that no matter what punishments we mete out, the dead cannot be brought back. But, it could be that the person we are punishing could still be of service to humanity.

I am also mindful that in the end the person will have to face the karma of his / her actions, and that whatever judgement does come it will be at a time and place beyond our jurisdiction. (end of incarnation life review, etc)

Regards

Simon

[skylark]

Hi Sweeps, and all,

I admit that I have only fully read your article this evening, as I was at work when I posted that previous message and did so between answering the phone and other work duties.

However, I saw Dr Salla's article several days ago - its just that its taken me a few days to be able to find time to react to it. I am on his yahoo list, and although I am mostly a silent member (ie: read only) today I made a rare posting of a message saying something very similar to my comments as above.

I have every confidence that the article as shared by Mr Salla is essentially accurate and that in sharing the article he is very much acting in good faith. But I see the UN as a compromised / infiltrated organisation and suspect that what is happening is that the NWO are trying to control events.

Another reason why I am so sceptical is because of all the contacts you list on this page. There are so many different 'peoples' already here that to my mind contact has already happened.

OK, so the main thrust of this article is about full public disclosure, and the implication of the article is that there are human decision makers who have the power to decide when it will happen. Otherwise, why are they telling us 2017? (or in other words, from whom did they source this date?)

To my thinking disclosure could come this very evening - if the 'right' political leaders were to stand up and start talking. We both know that the chances of this happening are virtually zero!

As for the NWO people being concerned about their personal safety; well, yes, I see their point. I've heard it said that but for the fear retribution there are some people within TPTB who would be willing to release *some* information and *some* technologies at the present time.

So as much as I do not want to see them escape justice for the murders etc., committed to keep advanced technologies under wraps I do see some benefit in a South African style 'Truth and Reconciliation' event. Similar was also done for the IRA in Northern Ireland and might be part of the way to solve the Middle East situation. So there is a historical precedent.

In saying this I am being pragmatic. It would be a peaceable way forward. From what I have heard about N. Ireland I suspect however that many of the the loved ones of the victims they have killed and maimed will not be happy with this solution.

My views are coloured by the simple fact that no matter what punishments we mete out, the dead cannot be brought back. But, it could be that the person we are punishing could still be of service to humanity.

I am also mindful that in the end the person will have to face the karma of his / her actions, and that whatever judgement does come it will be at a time and place beyond our jurisdiction. (end of incarnation life review, etc)

Regards

Simon

*Good on you Simon,
...Luv it...good 'Open' observations/comments. We can both now do 'The Dance of the Dancing Wu Li Masters'. BTW...The 'Dates' 2013-2017 came from 17 different ET Species collectively. When and where this happened is 'FOR ME TO KNOW'...and my 'in crowd'. I consider you in that group...but you havn't been properly 'invested' yet. When DEEPLY involved in Security/Intel matters...I will run the risk of saying that 'WE' knew of 57 variations of 'Alien Species'...and more since. Yes, of course, the UN is 'basically dysfunctional' in my experiencial opinions...* should be uprooted/kicked out of N.Y. and posted to Darfur or some place 'out of sight out of mind', But that WAS the venue to explore this 'Issue' we are talking about here in this Topic. Wouldn't have been my choice.
I'm, and always have been, IN THIS...to 'Get the message out'. That's why this dedicated labor is being done. There are no great rewards in this effort. People as yourself...make this effort palatable/encouraging/and even inspiring.
*Look forward to more and more credible 'Sightings' worldwide...they will become prolific...and indicitive of the 'Roll up' to those years mentioned. People will start the acclimation process in the short ensuing years. The Ridicule....can then not be extended to a MASS of people and a MASS of credible Sightings. Best to you/'S'

[simple simon]

*Good on you Simon,
...Luv it...good 'Open' observations/comments. We can both now do 'The Dance of the Dancing Wu Li Masters'. BTW...The 'Dates' 2013-2017 came from 17 different ET Species collectively. When and where this happened is 'FOR ME TO KNOW'...and my 'in crowd'. I consider you in that group...but you havn't been properly 'invested' yet. When DEEPLY involved in Security/Intel matters...I will run the risk of saying that 'WE' knew of 57 variations of 'Alien Species'...and more since. Yes, of course, the UN is 'basically dysfunctional' in my experiencial opinions...* should be uprooted/kicked out of N.Y. and posted to Darfur or some place 'out of sight out of mind', But that WAS the venue to explore this 'Issure' we are talking about here in this Topic. Wouldn't have been my choice.
I'm, and always have been, IN THIS...to 'Get the message out'. That's why this dedicated labor is being done. There are no great rewards in this effort. People as yourself...make this effort palatable/encouraging/and even inspiring.
*Look forward to more and more credible 'Sightings' worldwide...they will become prolific...and indicitive of the 'Roll up' to those years mentioned. People will start the acclimation process in the short ensuing years. The Ridicule....can then not be extended to a MASS of people and a MASS of credible Sightings. Best to you/'S'

Thanks Sweeps.

I hear what you say. I can imagine, you know people! (behind the scenes).

I would wish that things could be sooner - yet barring some truly severe earthchanging etc., event (which I might survive) I should still be here to see this - 2017 is only 10 years away!

a quick thought, before I fall asleep at the keyboard; the Mayans were right. after 2012 a new cycle begins. December 2012 is not the end of the world - just the end as we currently know it! But as with all cycles so a new one starts.

Maybe this has a connection as to why that date, although right now I dont know / understand why they have to wait until then. Waiting for a calendar date sounds waaay too bureaucratic for me.

Maybe one day I will get to understand.

Simon

[simple simon]

Hi Sweeps,

Following my post at P4C (Dr Salla's yahoo list) of yesterday I received an email from someone who says the following..

I was banned by Dr.Salla precisely for talking about this. By the way pay a visit to Dr. Salla match making
business. There was a link, if you want to see it I'll send it via PM. I have not yet visited it, in case it takes me to a site with active X scripts (etc) which would harm my computer. I plan to visit that link in a secure way - which will also be untraceable.

Also, the message had as a subject line Baned by Herr Doctor Salla - although when I looked at p4C I saw the person's name next to some messages - so (s)he is obviously still there!

btw, this is a copy of what I said Yes, this article represents the agenda which TPTB would like to see - not least because by then the 'earthchanges' will have happened and they would hope to be in power - and able to manipulate events to suit them.

(that was said before your message in this thread suggesting my assumption was in error)

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Do you mind if I quote you and this forum in a response to my previous message on Dr Salla's list? After all, what you have said is on an open / public list, and not in a confidential private message.

regards

Simon

[skylark]

Hi Sweeps,

Following my post at P4C (Dr Salla's yahoo list) of yesterday I received an email from someone who says the following..

I was banned by Dr.Salla precisely for talking about this. By the way pay a visit to Dr. Salla match making
business. There was a link, if you want to see it I'll send it via PM. I have not yet visited it, in case it takes me to a site with active X scripts (etc) which would harm my computer. I plan to visit that link in a secure way - which will also be untraceable.

Also, the message had as a subject line Baned by Herr Doctor Salla - although when I looked at p4C I saw the person's name next to some messages - so (s)he is obviously still there!

btw, this is a copy of what I said Yes, this article represents the agenda which TPTB would like to see - not least because by then the 'earthchanges' will have happened and they would hope to be in power - and able to manipulate events to suit them.

(that was said before your message in this thread suggesting my assumption was in error)

----------------------------------

Do you mind if I quote you and this forum in a response to my previous message on Dr Salla's list? After all, what you have said is on an open / public list, and not in a confidential private message.

regards

Simon

*Hey Simon
...Thanks for the request...but you know, 'it's your thing'...don't need my permission. Happy enough letting people know what we're talking about here. Time for all opinions etc. to be on the table. All the best...maybe let me/us on the Forum...know how it goes. Tah/'S'

Thanks Sweeps.

I hear what you say. I can imagine, you know people! (behind the scenes).

I would wish that things could be sooner - yet barring some truly severe earthchanging etc., event (which I might survive) I should still be here to see this - 2017 is only 10 years away!

a quick thought, before I fall asleep at the keyboard; the Mayans were right. after 2012 a new cycle begins. December 2012 is not the end of the world - just the end as we currently know it! But as with all cycles so a new one starts.

Maybe this has a connection as to why that date, although right now I dont know / understand why they have to wait until then. Waiting for a calendar date sounds waaay too bureaucratic for me.

Maybe one day I will get to understand.

Simon

*OK Chief,
...Got/understand all that. Guess we're all in 'that big boat'...questioning everything/learning about the predictions/and trying to make sense of it all. Take a meditative break...let it come in. 'Go inward'...or try to view the 'Hologram' of life from a different angle/perspective. 'Things aren't as they seem'...thru one perspective. Thanks for being there/'S'

[simple simon]

Hi Sweeps,

Life gets curiouser and curiouser. Whitley Streiber is now saying that the UN meeting did not take place. (see below)

On reading his journal it seems obvious why he suggests this. Apparently he claims that in the articles about the meetings Dr Salla also wrote this... "those claiming to have first hand experience of extraterrestrial life would be targeted as charlatans." - and he takes exception at being called a charlatan!

Methinks that there is open warfare between different factions of the UFO 'Industry'. Which is both good and bad - good because it means that we are getting nearer, and bad because if we all worked together and without petty infighting so maybe we could hasten things even faster?

Then again, I must wonder, behind the scenes are there not those who will do anything to delay open contact - unless its in a way which maintains their own power base?

Simon

(who thinks that some kind of meeting DID happen, but is still sceptical about some of the public info about that meeting)

http://www.unknownco...m/news/?id=6743


UFO Meeting Did NOT Take Place
08-Mar-2008

update -

The sensational story that a meeting had taken place at the United Nations among the G8 countries concerning a possible change to a policy of disclosure in 2009 now appears to have been, according to the president of the French national UFO research organization, "a fiction."

The primary source of this story, Gilles Lorant, presented himself as an official of the French Institute of National Higher Defense Studies. He has now admitted that he was not, in fact, associated with this organization. In addition, the French UFO research organization, the FEA, has been unable to confirm that he attended any meeting at the UN concerning UFOs. Therefore, Mr. Lorant has left the FEA, and the president of that organization, Michel Ribardiere, has issued a statement to the effect that the visit was probably "fiction." Michael Salla's report of the event also came from Gilles Lorant, and has no independent source. In France, such misrepresentations are illegal, and Michel Ribardiere has issued the following additional statement, "Considering the infiltration of many foreign UFO organizations by unscrupulous individuals, who have sometimes attempted to sabotage their operations, the F.E.A reserves the right to bring this whole affair before the courts."

Unknowncountry.com's position is this: until there is concrete evidence of the meeting provided by one of the alleged official participants, the assumption must be that it never happened.

Edited by simple simon, 08 March 2008 - 06:15 PM.

[skylark]

Hi Sweeps,

Life gets curiouser and curiouser. Whitley Streiber is now saying that the UN meeting did not take place. (see below)

On reading his journal it seems obvious why he suggests this. Apparently he claims that in the articles about the meetings Dr Salla also wrote this... "those claiming to have first hand experience of extraterrestrial life would be targeted as charlatans." - and he takes exception at being called a charlatan!

Methinks that there is open warfare between different factions of the UFO 'Industry'. Which is both good and bad - good because it means that we are getting nearer, and bad because if we all worked together and without petty infighting so maybe we could hasten things even faster?

Then again, I must wonder, behind the scenes are there not those who will do anything to delay open contact - unless its in a way which maintains their own power base?

Simon

(who thinks that some kind of meeting DID happen, but is still sceptical about some of the public info about that meeting)

http://www.unknownco...m/news/?id=6743
UFO Meeting Did NOT Take Place
08-Mar-2008

update -

The sensational story that a meeting had taken place at the United Nations among the G8 countries concerning a possible change to a policy of disclosure in 2009 now appears to have been, according to the president of the French national UFO research organization, "a fiction."

The primary source of this story, Gilles Lorant, presented himself as an official of the French Institute of National Higher Defense Studies. He has now admitted that he was not, in fact, associated with this organization. In addition, the French UFO research organization, the FEA, has been unable to confirm that he attended any meeting at the UN concerning UFOs. Therefore, Mr. Lorant has left the FEA, and the president of that organization, Michel Ribardiere, has issued a statement to the effect that the visit was probably "fiction." Michael Salla's report of the event also came from Gilles Lorant, and has no independent source. In France, such misrepresentations are illegal, and Michel Ribardiere has issued the following additional statement, "Considering the infiltration of many foreign UFO organizations by unscrupulous individuals, who have sometimes attempted to sabotage their operations, the F.E.A reserves the right to bring this whole affair before the courts."

Unknowncountry.com's position is this: until there is concrete evidence of the meeting provided by one of the alleged official participants, the assumption must be that it never happened.

*Hi Simon...& all your POINTS are well taken...of course,

...Looks like your 'typical' CASE of 'He Said/She said'...HUH?
There has always been this division...people trying to be 'Top Dog' in this Field. Since I know Dr. Salla fairly well...I might be inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Still...I have my very own 'very rich' experiences...and don't run around 'Prognosticating' or trying to 'Force' a Position on people. 'We'...the 'Forum' don't run a Organization of Control. The Major Religions/Institutions/etc. all do that...to assume 'Power and Control' over people...get them to perform 'Homage' and servitude. In the end...that doesn't work of course. Takes awhile for people to 'Cop On' though.
Guess though, the WAR of 'who's to be believed' in all this is in full swing among Ufologists/Exo-Polititians. Maybe we'll all have to wait/attend the 2013-2017 Era which the 'supposed' Secret UN UFO/ET meeting stressed? On the other hand...'Whitley' should talk about CONCRETE PROOF, when he was never able to offer any about his 'own' related ET 'Thing'....starting with his book 'Communion'.
So...we're in this together Simon and All, and sure thank you...each and every one...for your sharing and input.
I sort of 'go by' the expression...'There are more things in the Universe/Dimensions/Astral/the Earth, than are seen in our wildest philosophies'. Always wind up my University/Group Talks with something like...'We are just beginning to understand that we don't know the 1st thing', and 'It's a good place to start...our own ignorance'.
All the best in our journey/'S'
Too many folks-...more and more lately...are also having their own accounts/experiences/et al.

[simple simon]

Thanks Sweeps.

Yes the more we thought we knew, so the more we realise just how little we know.

A few minutes ago I received a mail-out from Dr Boylan on this UN meeting, and beyond his comments about other people (which I will not comment on here) the one thing which stands out (to me) is where he says... (Talk about putting off disclosure while pretending to move it forward!) . I feel the same too. But I realise that being a dysfunctional puppet talking shop the UN will not take responsibility and stand up and speak out.

As you point out earlier in this thread (and Dr B says too in his mail-out), its already happened!

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However, in saying that its already happeend I would continue on by saying...

but (so far) only for those 'in the know' or who are deemed to be capable of 'being in the know' (ie: who can take it).
and judging by the info available 'out there' I suspect that I should conclude that line with...

- or those who are destined to be disappeared at places such as Dulce.

Simon

ps: I have met people who cannot 'take it', telling me quite forcefully that as they have a 'handle' on life which does not include that we are not alone, so they will thank me for not damaging their view of how the world operates. I am concerned for their well being when the truth does come out.

[simple simon]

Hi Sweeps,

As previously suggested I am on a private email distribution list (ie: not based an any sort of forum) and it does seem that the issue of this meeting at the UN, and especially whether it really happened has become a *very* hot potato! In short, because people are respecting confidences Dr Salla and others who saying that it did take place but not providing provable evidence that this is so are being flamed mercilessly.

Anyway, some of what you have said here has not, as far as I've seen, been said anywhere else.

Just thought I'd let you know.

Simon

[skylark]

Hi Sweeps,

As previously suggested I am on a private email distribution list (ie: not based an any sort of forum) and it does seem that the issue of this meeting at the UN, and especially whether it really happened has become a *very* hot potato! In short, because people are respecting confidences Dr Salla and others who saying that it did take place but not providing provable evidence that this is so are being flamed mercilessly.

Anyway, some of what you have said here has not, as far as I've seen, been said anywhere else.

Just thought I'd let you know.

Simon

*thanks and good Simon,
...Do try and get it done/unique/and to put it all out there...expecially 'Personal Experiences-cum 'Informed Sources.
...'WE' don't run with the crowd...and certainly Major Media. We have our own 'deeper' sources. Thanks/'S'

[simple simon]

*thanks and good Simon,
...Do try and get it done/unique/and to put it all out there...expecially 'Personal Experiences-cum 'Informed Sources.
...'WE' don't run with the crowd...and certainly Major Media. We have our own 'deeper' sources. Thanks/'S'

'deeper sources'?

hmm, yes, I can imagine....

in some cases even right from the horses' mouth, as the expression goes !

(I hope that *everyone* reading this understands enough English and English expressions to know that I am not saying that anyone is a horse... I don't want to cause offence!)

Simon

[skylark]

'deeper sources'?

hmm, yes, I can imagine....

in some cases even right from the horses' mouth, as the expression goes !

(I hope that *everyone* reading this understands enough English and English expressions to know that I am not saying that anyone is a horse... I don't want to cause offence!)

Simon

*Hi Simon...on this Bank Holiday,
...Imagination is good, at this point. AND...'Never Apologize', It's a sign of weakness. Well, that's what John Wayne said anyway.
People/guests/members on our Forum Site...should be more discerning/aware, of 'HOW' you meant that anyway Simon. Tah
NOW...just did a 'Sweeps Fox Show' with OUR Seth. Yep, believe it or not...while he was visiting Ireland with his Fiance.
...Will try and get the 'Show' up on the Web Site as a Freebie...for all, so they can get familiar with Seth. Neat/revealing/informative opening up radio show. Hope all will go to/enjoy it. Thanks/'S'

[simple simon]

Hi Sweeps,

Thanks for the info about the show with Seth. I saw it on the front page, and as its very late now will listen to it tomorrow.


John Wayne was of the old school, when people shot first and asked questions later! I find it fascinating that you thought I might have been apologising - I know that my thought processes are sometimes different to those of others, and sometimes see the benefit in explaining what i mean in greater detail.

There have been times in the past when people have taken offence at things I've said, because they understood my words in totally different ways to those intended. Roll on telepathy... I'm not (yet) up to speed on this, altho I know that some are.

Regards

Simon

[skylark]

Hi Sweeps,

Thanks for the info about the show with Seth. I saw it on the front page, and as its very late now will listen to it tomorrow.
John Wayne was of the old school, when people shot first and asked questions later! I find it fascinating that you thought I might have been apologising - I know that my thought processes are sometimes different to those of others, and sometimes see the benefit in explaining what i mean in greater detail.

There have been times in the past when people have taken offence at things I've said, because they understood my words in totally different ways to those intended. Roll on telepathy... I'm not (yet) up to speed on this, altho I know that some are.

Regards

Simon

*Very good Simon,
...Well, I think you're on track....'as usual'. Language has big problems. Did lectures on that. YEP-have to go to 'Telepathy'....brings communication in a wholly 'Global'/Holistic way. No one has to explain in WORDS. Words would only confuse you. Think you're ready? I do. Cheers & hope you Do enjoy the show.
Don't look at any of this NOTE to you in any word meaning. Tell you later...but consign it to your sub-conscious for interpretation. Tah/'s'