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Posted 19 May 2015 - 11:18 PM

DEALING WITH GAY ACTIVISTS

-AND THE IRISH REFERENDUM ON GAY MARRIAGE-YUCK

THOSE CALLING FOR ‘EQUALITY’ LOSE EVERYONE ELSE’S RIGHTS

 

*’Sweeps’ NOTE:

...Reprehensible-the ENTIRE Irish Government is ‘BULLYING/PUSHING’ for a ‘YES’ vote on FRIDAY 22 May 2015 for ‘Gay Marriage RIGHTS’

What’s FAMILY? EASY-MARRIAGE-1 MAN 1 WOMAN-Nature doesn't give GAYS/Animals even any reproduction FAMILY RIGHTS-Humans STUPID

 

They talk of making everyone ‘Equal’...absolute nonsense-A Vote FOR ‘Gay Marriage’ is a vote to take everyone else’s Rights away-so where’s the ‘Equality’ then? OK-If ‘Gays’ get these Marriage Rights’ they will next try to infiltrate & yes Intimidate Education-to teach about Homosexuality as Equal in the Schools. They will PUSH for ‘Gender Neutral bathrooms ‘everywhere & will FORCE by law to revoke/substitute other names for our traditional ones.

 

It means ‘WE’ will LOSE the RIGHT to be called ‘Mom’/’Dad’/Father/Mother/& even Boy or Girl. We will be Forced to ‘drop’ referring to a Bride & Groom, even Grand -father and grand –mother, and much more YOU can think of.

 

What’s wrong with a YES VOTE? More reasons to VOTE ‘NO’. It is NOT a Religious Issue...that’s what many think it is. It is neither about ‘Equality’ because WE lose our Majority rights.

 

Here’s the Problem. It has to do with NATURE Itself. The Problem-Homos as even Animal homos represent only about 4% of given species-NATURE doesn't allow them reproduction Rights-intimidation, teaching, adoption, or Bullying

 

AGAIN-Very Simple folks-it’s Government Bullying Again-GAYs rep 4% of species NATURE, 2 Gays, NO reproduction Rights or/teaching/adopting #NoGaySCOTUS  on ‘Twitter’

 

Gay PROBLEM-1 MAN/1 WOMAN=Baby-1 Woman+1MAN=Baby-1 WOMAN +WOMEN/1MAN +MAN=0-So FAMILY=MAN+WOMAN-In NATURE Gays No FAMILY RIGHTS /’S’

 

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- SURPRISING WAY TO DENY ‘GAY’ BULLIES ‘YOUR BAKERY MAKING THEM A WEDDING CAKE’-

 

Even ‘GAY’ Maffia types can’t make you do something if it puts ‘your own life in danger.

 

As homosexual activists continue to wage monetary and political war against Christian businesses who won’t cater to same-sex marriages, There is a possible solution to the battle.

 

Many of you out there run businesses that if a gay couple … came in and asked for your service, you would deny it, on the basis that you disapprove, your religion does not sanction the approval of gay marriage.

The idea is quite simple. Don’t use that as the excuse anymore.

Let’s say that you own the ABC Wedding Cake Bakery. The only thing you do is you bake wedding cakes, and as such, militant gay activists target your bakery. They’re gonna take you out. They’re gonna take you down. They’re gonna walk in there, they’re gonna tell you they’re gonna get married, and of all the bakeries in the world, yours has been recommended to them because that’s all you do. …
 

Instead of telling the gay couple that you refuse baking the cake because you disapprove of homosexuality, you should now say you are not going to bake a cake for the gay wedding because you fear Muslim backlash. Or, due to your respect for Islam, you cannot bake a cake for a gay wedding. See how that flies.

 So don’t say anything about your religion. Don’t say anything about it’s your religion that prevents you from doing it. Say it this way. You respect Islam or you’re afraid of Muslim backlash.”

 

THIS idea was sparked by the glaring irony in avoiding depictions of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, but a lack of concern for Muslim opposition to same-sex marriage.

 

Why on the one hand do we respect their wishes when it comes to cartoon renderings of the prophet Muhammad and ignore their wishes and ignore what they claim upsets them and angers them when it comes to gay marriage?

 

Over the weekend, NBC’s “Saturday Night Live” program spoofed America’s fear of offending Muslims by portraying a Pictionary-style game show which had contestants paralyzed by fear of drawing the prophet Muhammad.

 



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Posted 20 May 2015 - 11:43 AM

I am not gay but understand that as part of a soul's evolution it will have lives where it experiences "same gender relations". So, to put this in simple English that even those who are religious will understand, this means that such lifestyles are part of God's plan for humankind.

 

BUT

 

Whilst therefore I see it as being appropriate to allow people to have the lifestyles they were born to have, I deeply resent having politically correct apparatchiks thrusting other people's lifestyle choices (whether gay, Islamic, Catholic, Protestant, three in a bed or whatever) thrust down my throat in ways which suggest that I am at fault for wanting to follow my own (different) lifestyle choices.

 

If it offends someone to bake a cake with a slogan that promotes ideas they do not like then it is perfectly reasonable to refuse to bake that cake. There is, in law, no compulsion for a shop to sell its products to someone if they do not want to.

 

Geez, would these PC people support a Protestant going to a Catholic bakery (in Belfast) and asking for a cake which supported the Orange Day Parades?

 

Even though it implies "living in fear" (which no-one should ever be doing - see below*) the suggested excuse (fear of a Muslim backlash) is simply brilliant and hopefully will be used. It would make for a VERY interesting court case which hopefully will see the intimidation by the PC brigade included as well.

 

[*I would not see "living in fear" as good or necessary, because if people are following the Golden Rule (do as one would like to be done by) then it should not be that their actions are governed by fear of a backlash by people of different faiths. This instance however makes for a delightful and rare exception].

 

Simon

 

**Well done Simon-Just putting in my 2 Cents here. Did a great 'Edit'/with feelings & didn't want 2 do a Formal Reply, and hide this Post in the Topic. Hope that's understandable. Best/'S'


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Posted 23 May 2015 - 08:21 PM

Thanks; when I re-read my first first I thought it was too wishy washy.

 

The treatment of people who wish for "same gender" sexual relations by people who prefer "opposite gender" sexual relations has often been hostile (or worse). This has to stop. We are all spiritual beings enjoying a wide range of human life experiences and as long as we follow the core rules of civilisation (don't steal, don't murder, don't rape, etc) then people should be left alone to explore their incarnation's chosen lifestyle. Note that this also includes people of different skin colour living together / creating a family and possibly marrying each other.

 

I agree with those who point out that homosexual relationships are incapable of creating new life. I would be stunned if homosexual people did not understand this.

 

Whilst some schools of thought say that sex should only be for when a man and a woman want to create children the reality is that the vast majority of adults see sex as being for more than simply to create new life.

 

To repeat my comments above, as long as all actions are consensual by people of mature age so people should be allowed to do as they please. Homosexual, group romp, whatever... This also includes those who prefer more traditional lifestyles being left in peace to enjoy their lives as they wish too.

 

I am concerned that there might be other motives behind the present-day attempts by the elite to make homosexuality seem desirable (aka: ram this lifestyle choice down the throats of the rest of the population). Could this be an attempt to slow down the birth rate? Could it be part of a long-term plan to break down the traditional family unit, as part of a transition to a society where only permitted people are allowed to procreate children and then once weaned the children are placed in boarding school type environments so that as they mature blood ties / family ties become less important and instead the children bond more deeply with their classmates?

 

 

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The result of the vote by the electorate was in favour of allowing homosexual people to marry. This I see as the right and pragmatic result. I do not know the type of marriage that will be allowed - civil partnership? in a House of God? If the latter, will the clergy be allowed to say no? - or will the tide be reversed and the clergy's views become illegal?

 

Beyond what I've said already I do not have any strong feelings on the issue. The reality is that even if the vote had gone the other way it would not have stopped people living together, albeit with a feeling of injustice about the illegality of their union.

 

I hope that this result will make life easier for Catholic clergy - who are not allowed to marry women - and see the end of the abhorrent incidences of child pornography committed by a few of the clergy.

 

To close, a copy of my opening words from my previous message.

 

I am not gay but understand that as part of a soul's evolution it will have lives where it experiences "same gender relations". So, to put this in simple English that even those who are religious will understand, this means that such lifestyles are part of God's plan for humankind.

 

Simon
 


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Posted 23 May 2015 - 08:58 PM

*'Sweeps' NOTE:

...It IS the start of reducing or eliminating 'FAMILY VALUES/TRADITIONAL FAMILY' by foisting a Gay Agenda on US. Make NO mistake-this Referendum had NOTHING to do with 'Equality'. In fact it took away the RIGHTS of the 'Majority' By a small percentage (less than 4% of any given population which is Gay-even in the Animal Kingdom) of the Human Species.

 

It NEVER had anything to do with Religion either (But still concerns over Religious Freedom will come quickly)-it has to do with NATURE itself. Nature NEVER gives the 4% of any of its Species the RIGHTS to PROCREATE, ADOBT, TEACH, CHANGE LAWS OF NATURE, OR 'BULLY'.

 

This Referendum now gives 'GAY Humans' ALL those RIGHTS and 'In Law'-this is more than HORRENDOUS it actually is the start of a RIGHTS 'WAR'-and I mean 'BLOOD' IN THE STREETS.

 

Think people in Ireland will now have to learn the HARD way about a 'Gay Mafia Agenda'. Most never investigated, knew anything about it, and AGAIN where 'BULLIED into this VOTE by Government'....promoting it as 'EQUALITY'. No such thing-it is, as I've just said, the start of SEXUAL AGENDA/FAMILY 'WAR'.

 

What’s FAMILY? EASY-MARRIAGE-1 MAN 1 WOMAN-Nature doesn't give GAYS/Animals even any reproduction FAMILY RIGHTS-Humans STUPID

 

Gay PROBLEM-1 MAN/1 WOMAN=Baby-1 Woman+1MAN=Baby-1 WOMAN +WOMEN/1MAN +MAN=0-So FAMILY=MAN+WOMAN-In NATURE Gays No FAMILY RIGHTS

 

 GAYs & Animal GAYs rep bout 4% of species-NATURE doesn't give Dem reproduction Rights-Nor intimidation/teaching/adopting

 

**Yes, I've mentioned 'Intimidation'-when Gays demand Gender Neutral Bathrooms in schools-see how long it takes before Parents man the barricades.

When 'Gays'-'with their 4% of the species' Demand to Teach 'Homosexuality' in grade schools for the sake of Equality-see how long it takes for ALL OUT WAR.

Yep-there will be a lot more 'THEY' will Force on the people and traditions by 'Law', now that 'Gays' won the Referendum.

 

I remind you now-'YOU STUPID VOTERS'-haven't seen anything yet. But, you will. Every single Political Party is to BLAME.

 

Sinn Féin Has NOW Lost ALL Credibility-by backing this 'Outrageous' Government assault on people's values. Non of the folks/relatives/friends/myself will EVER vote for a Party which spits in the face of its own sacrosanct beliefs and mandates over the years. It is TRUE Heresy/'S'



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Posted 23 May 2015 - 10:59 PM

When you refereed to gender neutral bathrooms, did you mean one changing room for everybody... male and female? The way I understand your comment is (for example) there would be one changing room for a swimming pool... everybody changes in there and since it is usual to be butt naked in such rooms so everyone sees people of the same and the other gender butt naked.

 

I suppose that if young children at boarding school are raised to accept this as normal then within a couple of decades separate changing rooms will no longer exist. Then the next step would be that swimming costumes would not be worn for water sports. Nudist colonies already see public nudity as normal.

 

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Something I did not broach before was the question of whether same gender couples (whether married or otherwise) would be allowed to foster children... either of the same gender or the opposite gender. This issue could be an even bigger hornets nest than gay marriage. I'm keeping well away...

 

Simon

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 12:49 AM

*'Sweeps' NOTE:

Reprehensible-the ENTIRE Irish Government was ‘BULLYING/PUSHING’ for a ‘YES’ vote on FRIDAY 22 May 2015 for ‘Gay Marriage RIGHTS’

What’s FAMILY? EASY-MARRIAGE-1 MAN 1 WOMAN-Nature doesn't give GAYS/Animals even any reproduction FAMILY RIGHTS-Humans STUPID

 

They talked of making everyone ‘Equal’...absolute nonsense-A Vote FOR ‘Gay Marriage’ was a vote to take everyone else’s Rights away-so where’s the ‘Equality’ then? OK-‘Gays’ get these Marriage Rights’ they will next try to infiltrate & yes Intimidate Education-to teach about Homosexuality as Equal in the Schools. They will PUSH for ‘Gender Neutral bathrooms ‘everywhere & will FORCE by law to revoke/substitute other names for our traditional ones.

 

It means ‘WE’ will LOSE the RIGHT to be called ‘Mom’/’Dad’/Father/Mother/& even Boy or Girl. We will be Forced to ‘drop’ referring to a Bride & Groom, even Grand -father and grand –mother, and much more YOU can think of.

 

What’s wrong with a YES VOTE? More reasons to VOTE ‘NO’. It is NOT a Religious Issue...that’s what many think it is. It is neither about ‘Equality’ because WE lose our Majority rights.

 

Here’s the Problem. It has to do with NATURE Itself. The Problem-Homos as even Animal homos represent only about 4% of given species-NATURE doesn't allow them reproduction Rights-intimidation, teaching, adoption, or Bullying

 

AGAIN-Very Simple folks-it’s Government Bullying Again-GAYs rep 4% of species NATURE, 2 Gays, NO reproduction Rights or/teaching/adopting

 

WHAT WE'RE HEARING:

 

...Notes on the Irish Referendum from Friends abroad who KNOW the problem & what Ireland is 'NOW IN FOR'/'S'

 

 

-As expected its a landslide victory for Ireland's Catholic queers who all rushed to get themselves legally married after the vote on queer marriage was counted yesterday. So, what are the consequences for the Irish people? its bye bye to Ireland's No 1 tourist destination forever with its medieval banquets to boot!!

 

-Some good news is that Northern Ireland-voted against queers fornicating like dogs on the street in the UK Parliamentary vote on gay marriage in 2013 and has been persistently rejecting queers from fornicating like dogs on the street ever since.

 

-Sinn Féin Has NOW Lost ALL Credibility-by backing this 'Outrageous' Government assault on people's values. Non of the folks/relatives/friends/myself will EVER vote for a Party which spits in the face of its own sacrosanct beliefs and mandates over the years. It is TRUE Heresy

 

-Sinn Féin Has, by this 'backing the government' betrayed ALL of the Principles & Values which their Military Branch-'The IRA'-over the years-fought so hard to embrace for the Irish People-this is tantamount to dishonoring ALL of their Deaths and Sacrifices-NEVER AGAIN will people VOTE THIS UGLY GROUP INTO POWER.

 

-PLEASE 'WAKE UP' FOLKS-THERE WILL BE ATTEMPTS AT 'GAY' Indoctrination-they are out to convert our Kids-where have you All been?

 

-Libs/Homos nuke the nuclear family, raise bitter entitled kids & expect cops to be social workers

 

**You can now ALL expect 'Gender Neutral' TOYS as well-so boys can't identify as Boys, and Girls can't be expected to play with dolls-just because they were BORN with a Social/Maternal propensity to play with them. TOY Neutrality is one of the ways the 'Gay Agenda' works to further undermine Cultural as you knew it...before your STUPID/Uninformed Vote

 

*TODAY is the start of 'Memorial Day' Weekend in 'THE STATES'- As a VET I think of friends I'd lost in War...When I think of other old friends in the service I smile. But then it dawns on me how their memory is tarnished by governments...& I actually weep. I now 'weep for IRELAND, my adopted home...for what the Gov't here has done...to dishonor a proud tradition of Honor/duty/yes and 'Family'.

 

I guess today especially...I feel that Veterans deserve better from those they had served. In Ireland-you have failed miserably to provide for your Values which sustained the generations/'S'



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Posted 24 May 2015 - 10:54 PM

As previously stated, I am concerned about long term plans from those who hide in the shadows to make humans more androgynous and switch procreation away from the many to the permitted few who have the 'right' DNA profiles. Then once the technology becomes available they will want to switch from women's wombs to test tube / incubator gestation systems.

 

We are on the cusp of an era of significant societal changes, already the left-wing socialist (closet communist) people are scheming in the background towards these long-term aspirations. Its being implemented slowly, over many generations, so that few will realise whats happening.. until its too late.

 

As for toys, well to a certain extent its already started... weaponry (especially guns) are frowned upon.

 

As for procreation, but gays are simply incapable of parent children (unless one of them is a hermaphrodite - and such people are extremely rare)! The issues come from fostering / adopting other people's children and test tube technologies using paid-for sperm / eggs / surrogate mothers etc. This can happen anyway, although legal gay marriage will very likely increase the likelihood of people thinking along such lines.

 

re: toilet facilities, already some office buildings equip all toilets identically (with cubicles containing sit-down toilets) although so far the signs outside the main doors still specify genders. The concept that men should sit down to urinate has also been mooted in some circles, although how the hell they think they will enforce such stupidity beats me. Surely not with a someone watching?

 

Simon


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