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FANATICAL ISLAMISTS ATTACK U.S. EMBASSIES-KILL AMBASSADOR

-LIBYAN AND EGYPTIAN EMBASSIES ATTACKED OVER FILM-

1) US ambassador to Libya killed in Benghazi attack

2) AND...in Cairo, Egypt; protesters angry about an online film considered offensive to Islam attacked U.S. diplomatic compounds in Libya and Egypt Tuesday.

**Feature this statement from ‘had enough Americans’ in a Blog;
Looks like a Muslim winter!! This isn’t a religion in our since of the word. Islam and Peace???...Where, When? Intolerance, Brutality, Hatred, Ignorance, no respect for human beings. Where is the outrage from the ‘Normal’ Muslim community? Is there even such a thing? Why do we make excuses for this disease? When do we as a people open our eyes and say enough is enough?

*’Sweeps’ NOTE:
...Who was it, who said ‘I told you so’? ‘Yep’...’Sweeps’ did. I castigated NATO, the U.S. and The U.K....any nation taking part in overthrowing GADAFFI and the Libyan regime by backing the JIHADISTS. I was against the WHOLE ‘ARAB SPRING’ nonsense...knowing the ‘Islamic Radicals’ would use the opportunity to take over governments in Northern Africa, and take away everyone’s rights except MUSLIM Extremists. No one listened of course...least of all OBAMA, who has NO Foreign Relations experience/credentials/or Sense...and probably a ‘closet Muslim sympathizer’.

The ‘attackers’ in both Libya and Egypt didn’t like an independent film about Mohammad...( insulting their prophet by even doing the Movie Trailer ).

It wasn’t made by the U.S. Government. It was in independent film production, but that didn’t enter their minds. This ignorance and disallowance for any ‘free expression’ or showing of Mohammad at all...defines what ‘we’ are up against in trying to deal with fanatics by using ‘apologies’ and ‘nice nice’.

*CLICK BELOW FOR THE 15 minute TRAILER OF THIS FILM:

The attack in Libya came hours after Egyptian protesters climbed the walls of the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, pulling down the American flag and PUTTING UP and ‘ISLAMIC’ Flag. All Foreign AID to these Nations should be STOPPED…and
Attack s ‘like these’…MUST be met with swift and devastating force…not words and diplomacy/’S’

*CLICK ON VIDEO LINK-attack on U.S. Embassy in Cairo:

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (AP) — Republican Mitt Romney slammed the Obama administration's handling of foreign affairs after attacks on U.S. diplomatic missions in Egypt and Libya as foreign policy pushed to the front of the presidential campaign.
He said in his earlier statement that he was outraged by the attacks and the administration's early response seemed to sympathize with the attackers. ‘It's disgraceful that the Obama administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks’.

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Christopher Stevens, the US ambassador to Libya who was killed on Tuesday, shakes hands with Libyan National Transitional Council chairman

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BENGHAZI, Libya — The US ambassador to Libya and three other embassy staff were killed in a rocket attack on their car, a Libyan official said on Thursday, as they were rushed from a consular building stormed by militants denouncing a US-made film insulting the Prophet Mohammad.
Gunmen had attacked and burned the US consulate in the eastern city of Benghazi, a centre of last year’s uprising against Muammar Gaddafi, late on Tuesday evening, killing one US consular official. The building was evacuated.

The Libyan official said the ambassador, Christopher Stevens, was being driven from the consulate building to a safer location when gunmen opened fire.

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*’Sweeps’ NOTE:
...These ATTACKS were ‘PLANNED’ folks. My new Intel asserts that after short investigation on the scenes in Libya and Cairo. 2 Separate attacks on Embassies of the United States don’t just happen...and on the commemoration of 9-11. All the ‘Radicals’ had to do was to get people to show up...up egging them on by the phoney excuse about the FILM on Mohammad.

Now we also know this:
After U.S. consulate in Benghazi began taking fire in attack, personnel effectively lost track of U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens — shown being dragged by Libyans — and did not recover his body until hours later.

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The attack on the U.S. Consulate left four dead, including Stevens, and three wounded. Questions have swirled over what instigated the attack, with a number of lawmakers and others speculating that it might have been a coordinated strike timed for the 11th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks. Speculation is also widespread over Stevens' exact cause of death.

**OK, Now…we also know that OBAMA never even mentioned the Embassy attack in Cairo in his SPEECH (talking the talk) from the White House ‘Rose Garden’ today. It would have been an embarrassment-since it was HIS foreign office that actually APOLOGIZED to the Jihadists for ‘OFFENSIVE American free speech’. Nice huh?/’S’

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’Sweeps’ NOTE:
...Libya’s ‘great revolution’ against Gadaffi has produced a government which is infiltrated at the highest levels by al-Qaida and its other extremist groups. OBAMA’S policies made all this possible…no denying. His policy of ‘clandestine support and arming of terror groups continues to this day…in Syria and elsewhere. Time to stop him and his administration NOW. The election is coming folks/’S’

An Egyptian security official speaking to WND today said there is information about large-scale infiltration by al-Qaida and its affiliated Jihadia Salafiya groups within the Libyan security apparatus.

The claim comes amid speculation about how Islamists who targeted the U.S. mission in Libya seemed to have inside information about the movement of the American diplomats in the country as well as the location of a supposedly secret U.S. safehouse in Libya.

The attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya came in two phases. The first phase saw a mob arrive at the one-story villa that serves as the consulate, with heavily armed men later coming to the scene with armored vehicles and rocket-propelled grenades. Ambassador Chris Stevens and another American were killed in the initial attack.

Libyan security forces then evacuated the consulate staff to a supposedly secret safehouse located about a mile away. Hours later, a second assault targeted the safe house, killing two Americans and wounding a number of Libyans and Americans.

U.S. backing Islamic groups behind Libya, Egypt attacks?
The claim of al-Qaida infiltration of Libyan security forces comes after WND documented earlier this week how the U.S. supported Libyan rebels amid widespread reports that al-Qaida groups were incorporated in the rebel ranks.
The attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya is being widely blamed on al-Qaida-linked groups.

One witness to the mob scene in Libya said some of the gunmen attacking the U.S. installation had identified themselves as members of Ansar al-Shariah, which represents al-Qaida in Yemen and Libya.

The al-Qaida offshoot released a statement denying its members were behind the deadly attack, but a man identified as a leader of the Ansar brigade told Al Jazeera the group indeed took part in the Benghazi attack.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton blamed the attack in Libya on a “small and savage group,” not the government or people of Libya. She wouldn’t be protecting herself and OBAMA now….would she. Hypocrite, comes to mind.

In Egypt, demonstrators earlier this week tore down the American flag outside Cairo’s U.S. embassy and burned it reportedly in protest of a film that depicts the Islamic figure Muhammad in a negative way

According to reports, the crowd of around 2,000 protesters outside the U.S. embassy in Cairo consisted of a mixture of Islamists and teenage soccer fans known for fighting police. The protesters reportedly played a part in the U.S.-supported revolt that toppled Hosni Mubarak’s regime last year.
The revolt was successful largely after President Obama called for Mubarak, a longtime U.S. ally in the region, to step down.

However, questions remain about the nature of U.S. support for the revolutions in Egypt and Libya, including reports the U.S.-aided rebels that toppled Moammar Gadaffi’s regime in Libya consisted of al-Qaida and jihad groups. The U.S. provided direct assistance, including weapons and finances, to the Libyan rebels.
Similarly, the Obama administration is currently aiding the rebels fighting Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria amid widespread reports that al-Qaida jihadists are included in the ranks of the Free Syrian Army.

During the revolution against Gadaffi’s regime, the U.S. admitted to directly arming the rebel groups.

At the time, rebel leader Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi admitted in an interview that a significant number of the Libyan rebels were al-Qaida fighters, many of whom had fought U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
He insisted his fighters “are patriots and good Muslims, not terrorists,” but added that the “members of al-Qaida are also good Muslims and are fighting against the invader.”

Adm. James Stavridis, NATO supreme commander for Europe, admitted Libya’s rebel force may include al-Qaida: “We have seen flickers in the intelligence of potential al-Qaida, Hezbollah.”

Former CIA officer Bruce Riedel went even further, telling the Hindustan Times: “There is no question that al-Qaida’s Libyan franchise, Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, is a part of the opposition. It has always been Gadhafi’s biggest enemy and its stronghold is Benghazi. What is unclear is how much of the opposition is al-Qaida/Libyan Islamic Fighting Group – 2 percent or 80 percent.”
In Syria, meanwhile, the U.S. may be currently supporting al-Qaida and other jihadists fighting with the rebels targeting Assad’s regime.

Last month, WND quoted a senior Syrian source claiming at least 500 hardcore mujahedeen from Afghanistan, many of whom were spearheading efforts to fight the U.S. there, have been killed in clashes with Syrian forces last month.
Also last month, WND reported that Jihadiya Salafia in the Gaza Strip, a group that represents al-Qaida in the coastal territory, had declared three days of mourning for its own jihadists who died in Syria in recent weeks.
There have been widespread reports of al-Qaida among the Syrian rebels, including in reports by Reuters and the New York Times.

WND reported in May there is growing collaboration between the Syrian opposition and al-Qaida as well as evidence the opposition is sending weapons to jihadists in Iraq, according to an Egyptian security official.
The military official told WND that Egypt has reports of collaboration between the Syrian opposition and three al-Qaida arms, including one the operates in Libya:

• Jund al-Sham, which is made up of al-Qaida militants who are Syrian, Palestinian and Lebanese;
• Jund al-Islam, which in recent years merged with Ansar al-Islam, an extremist group of Sunni Iraqis operating under the al-Qaida banner and operating in Yemen and Libya;
• Jund Ansar al-Allah, an al-Qaida group based in Gaza linked to Palestinian camps in Lebanon and Syria.

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American and other Diplomatic, western posts targeted repeatedly in Benghazi-Libya...in run-up to deadly assault on the ‘Safe House’ where the U.S. Ambassador Stevens was murdered...

*’Sweeps’ NOTE 1 (please see NOTE 2 at the bottom of this reply)-thanks:
...The ‘stupid’ Obama admin. Comments that NO ACTIONABLE intel reports were received about security problems in Libya prior to the ‘Attacks’...IS A LIE. More of the familiar Obama lies. It makes him not only inept but probably a pathological Liar/’S’

While the Obama administration says there was no "actionable intelligence" foreshadowing the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya, there were at least four attacks on diplomatic and western targets in Benghazi leading up to the murder of the U.S. ambassador.

“This (the U.S. Consulate) was a place that was targeted months before with an IED (improvised explosive device)," Rep. Mike Rogers, chairman of the House intelligence committee who has been briefed on the attack and investigation, told Fox News. “It's clearly a target that they wanted to hit and they wanted to cause casualties. ... It's just too many coincidences here”

On June 6, an IED was thrown at the perimeter of the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi. On June 11, the British ambassador's motorcade came under attack by a rocket-propelled grenade, or RPG. Two security personnel were injured. Seven days later, on June 18, armed gunmen attacked the Tunisian consulate and burned its flag. And on Aug. 5, five weeks before the assault on the U.S. Consulate, the International Committee of the Red Cross building in Benghazi was also struck by RPGs.

On Friday, the chairman and ranking members of the Senate homeland security committee, Joe Lieberman and Susan Collins, sent a letter to the State Department inspector general requesting an investigation into the U.S. Consulate’s security posture at the time of the attack. The letter specifically references the previous attacks in June on the consulate and the British ambassador’s convoy, adding:
“Does the risk assessment process consider the capacity or lack thereof of the host country to provide security? Did the Libyan government request or suggest that security could be improved at the Benghazi facility prior to September 12^th, 2010?”

A spokesman for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the nation’s top intelligence officials, said “actionable intelligence would have meant that we either saw or heard something, through intelligence collection, that told us that a specific act was being planned or was imminent. As I have said, we are not aware of any actionable intelligence related to the attack in Benghazi.”

But a former official with the Bush administration said the Obama White House appeared to be dodging the real issue. “This definition relies on the notion that action is only taken to prevent a specific plot where we know the time, place and even method of attack. Action can be, and is taken, to increase security when more general threats, like what we saw this summer in Benghzai, are known,” the former official said.

Asked if the four attacks prior to the ambassador’s murder were briefed to the president as part of the highly classified daily briefing which details threats against the U.S. homeland and U.S. interests, there was no immediate response from the ODNI nor the spokesman for the National Security Council.

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*’Sweeps’ NOTE 2…WITH HIS HISTORY OF LIES:
We here have said that OBAMA is a first class LIAR, and has always been…in private and public life. In fact we believe him to be a pathological Liar. Proof?
Yes…we’ve chronicled a LIBRARY of his lies right below. So, it’s all on the record for you. Still think you’d be voting for ‘Honest Abe’ and not…a Marxist/Muslim/anti-American?/’S’

We are indebted to…TERRY ANDERSON, A BLACK LOS ANGELES TALK RADIO HOST, WHO WENT DOWN A LIST OF THINGS SENATOR OBAMA HAS SAID THAT AREN'T EXACTLY CORRECT.

1.) Selma March Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough
to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in
1965.
(Google 'Obama Selma ' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about
its various untruths.) ! !

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well
educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one
of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT EXACTLY; your
cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a
legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in
decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to
overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Oba ma,
is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to
speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for verification
of that....and for more.


Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia
Muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers
have burned Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children alive
in a Christian church where they took shelter... Obama SUPPORTED his
cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and
see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT EXACTLY, she does her
daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to
mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and
'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is
also Arabic and so is Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. He is the first Arab-American
President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50%
Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side.

While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya , his father's family
was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African
Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). Go to:
4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in Islam''
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7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at
school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for
31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were
registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces
(check your own book).

February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times: Mr. Obama recalled
the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a
first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll
give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as
'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example
of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is being
altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.'


9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you
could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience - NOT
EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak
the language. What did you learn except how to study the Koran and watch
cartoons?

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa
(surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise); you have never been
anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT EXACTLY, you were
quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and
no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has
yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never
did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - NOT EXACTLY,
Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and
never did, exist.

15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - NOT EXACTLY, despite
saying, live on TV, which you would not have enough experience by then, and you
are all about having experience first.


16.) Voting 'Present' is Common In Illinois Senate - NOT EXACTLY, they are
common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Miss-voted - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups
and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY; you were a senior lecturer ON
LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior
lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT EXACTLY, you didn't
write it, introduce it, change it or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days
from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by
your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly
because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, state bills you
sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special
interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT EXACTLY, you were
part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to
mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic
policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU
voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY, even your own
supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY, they were not
YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow
Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NOT EXACTLY,
the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your
campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution
vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the
destruction off Israel.

30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT EXACTLY; you said let the delegates
decide.

31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that
limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate
during small windows of time.

32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NOT EXACTLY, you passed
26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to
eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

34.) I Don't Take PAC Money - NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.

35.) I don't Have Lobbyists - NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and
counting.

36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT EXACTLY, your
own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - NOT EXACTLY, you weren't in office
to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.

38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT EXACTLY, your
plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.

39.) My uncle liberated Auschwitz concentration camp - NOT EXACTLY, your
mother had no brothers and the Russian army did the liberating.

So, who EXACTLY is this Obama guy and what is he trying to sell us?!
Please get to work now AND spread this History...not enough of your loved ones and friends know about this fraud.

[simple simon]

Would it have been easier to details Obama's truthful comments? After all, it seems that you would only have needed a small postage stamp sized piece of paper!

In the coming election Obama has standing against him a man who openly supports the wealthy and who is likely to introduce welfare cuts which will seriously hurt the poor.

So, the people of the USA have a choice between the devil or the deep blue seas. (or not voting at all, as there wont be a third candidate).

Simon

Edited by simple simon, 18 September 2012 - 10:55 PM.

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*YO Simon and All,
...This will be very difficult to explain to those in Europe, since here most are raised with the idea of 'what can my country can do for me'...as part of 'The Nanny State' policies. Very Socialistic. In America the election coming soon is really about defending/up holding our Constitution, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...or becoming more like a European 'I'm entitled to' form of government. JFK said it better...'Don't ask what my country can do for me, but rather what can I do for my Country'.

It ISN'T Romney who will raise taxes to pay for all the new 'entitlements' that Obama has put on and will put on the public. He wants to REDUCE taxation...so the Middle-Class can grow and thrive, since THEY create businesses and HIRE people. Did you know that since Obama took office...almost 50% more people are on 'Food Stamps', small businesses can't get loans, almost 14 and 1/2 (the real percentage...when those who have actually dropped out of looking for jobs are figured in) percent are unemployed, that he-by himself and entitlements-have added over 5 TRILLION Dollars to the Debt, the 'illegal immigration' threatens to overwhelm the tax and entitlement system, and that the Military will be reduced to a level not seen before the 1st WW?

Most people here in Europe...don't know...that since OBAMA,
47 percent of Americans don't pay any federal income taxes...there paychecks have shrunk by 15%, below the taxable thresh hold. They have been reduced to 'part time work', Jobs way beneath their skills and education, and time limited contract work. 1 Out of 6 families...live NOW in 'Poverty.

NOTE: The top 1-2%-the Very Wealthy in America...pay almost 85 percent of ALL FEDERAL TAXES. They are also the source of the major support and contribution to legitiment worthy 'Charties'. They create Jobs on large scale. Obama wants to tax them more? Don't they already, more than do their fair share?

The top 50 people who contributed to Obama's last election, have ALL been given top government jobs. That's Cronyism. Romney stands for Reducing the Size of government, getting back to the 'rights' in the Constitution which have been ridden over by the Gangster style Obama groups, and Romney...understands and has been successful in reducing DEBT in EVERY business endevor he's been involved in. He will not take away WELFARE or SOCIAL SECURITY...but WILL create the jobs necessary for folks to find jobs and maybe get off unnecessary welfare. That will help the Country in general greatly....and get the repressive government rules/regulations that are stiffling individual enterprise 'off the backs of Americans'.

Make no mistake....Obama is a redistributing Marxist. Damned unAmerican. Get to know the climate and the facts in the U.S. before trying to state generalities about this coming election and its' meaning. Thanks/'S'

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**BTW...in keeping with the Topic (Muslim Extremists), wonder what the mayhem in Europe will be like today/tomorrow. A French newspaper/mag will run a story on 'The Real Mohammad' with Pictures/etc. That should get the fur flying in Europe itself...and France in particular hey?
That's what happens when 'unlimited immigration' from other cultures is ENCOURAGED in Europe for generations now. Blame the EU...blame 'political correctness'...blame yourselves 'citizens' for allowing it. But then again...you have BIG GOVERNMENT which takes YOU out of the picture...doesn't it?

[simple simon]

LOL re: that pic. I recall a phrase from when I was a youngster and Denis Healy was a Labour (Socialist) Chanceller of the Exchequer (ie: in charge of our nations' finances). So even though he denies it, Healy is credited as saying that he would "tax the rich until the pips squeak" - which sounds very much like what Obama's opponents say that he is doing.

I heard something about the French newspaper. It sounds like there is about to be an explosion of civil unrest in France. They need to be careful, as they have many refugees from former colonies which are now Islamic nations... in short France has so many people living within its borders who could conceivably feel angry enough to act as an 'enemy within' that there could be some serious bloodshed (next stage on from rioting) resulting in troops having to be deployed within some French conurbations.

Simon

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*OK Simon...and All,
...About Denis Healy and other Socialists, and the taxing of the 'better off' to redistribute the nations Wealth to all-and things like that. Think I like/agree with what Margaret Thatcher said about that. 'After a time, when the Wealthy are gone, where will you get the money from'? Well, words to that effect.

ALL Marxists...try to eliminate 'The Middle Class' as well. It's done automatically by their very economics. It does make everyone else easier to control, and a society without appreciation or applause for success in individual economic adventures. That's frowned on by the State. It is also the reason that Sociaism fails...it cuts out individual incentive/invention/and achievement, and only supports/rewards a never changing 'Collective'....which has given up its freedoms for security, and the right to be 'ruled' by a BIG GOVERNMENT which controls all the land/water/industries/and means of production.

As for the FRENCH. Forget them...they are helplessly lost and will need other nations helping with internal wars to rid the country of elements of social discontent, vying tribal immigrants, and those demanding more and more entitlements. Why?

The ONLY 2 nations in Europe that DON'T do RE-DISTRIBUTION of Wealth is GERMANY & SWITZERLAND....and what...and they are the only 2 economically successful and stable nations. The U.K. and other EU nations are simply BUST...and awash in a debt and Socialism from which they can never extricate themselves.

NO DOUBT...the FRENCH, WILL NEED an explosion of civil unrest...'To Wake Them Up'. Yes, I'm suggesting that Civil War...or a War to rid themselves of 'outside'/inside influences is necessary. The rest of Europe had better follow. Not a nice scenerio huh? They brought it on themselves/'S'

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***Back to the TOPIC. Still would prefer to lable Muslims as 'MOHAMMADENS' or something like that.

SON OF HAMAS FOUNDER, MOSAB YOUSEF, CALLS ‘ALLAH’ A GANGSTER

-ANTI ISLAM FILM IS HIS NEXT UNDERTAKING-

*’Sweeps’ NOTE:

...Well well, ‘one of their own’. Ex-Muslim and son of Hamas founder, Mosab Yousef, 34, in San Diego-California…says the God of Islam is a gangster and must be stopped. Mosab says he's not against Muslims, but the God of Muslims known as Allah…who Mosab describes as inhuman and the biggest liar in history.


Mosab is also in the process of producing a film with the Israeli filmmaker, Sam Feuer…on the life of Muhammad. Aaargh, not another anti-Islamic film…and hot on the heels of 'Innocence of Muslims' which very nearly started World War III. I wouldn't be against that either...it could solve this 'ignorant'/7th Century problem.



So, looks like some Muslims will either convert to Christianity/Judaism, stop mimicking their fellow Muslims, start maybe some ‘reflective’ thinking, or jump off a cliff!! Whatever…check out the YouTube presentation by Mosab just below…thanks/’S’

[simple simon]

well now, there is nothing that cultists like less than one of their own escaping from their control and starting to sing from a hymn sheet which is not fulsome in its praise of the cult.

I am not convinced that making negative comments about any religious deity represents a wise thing to do. For a start, we are judging alleged actions according by our own moral standards, even though our society is anything but moral. (Porno, financial corruption, etc are rife).

Secondly, how do we know that these actions were actually done? - and if they were done then the context in which they were done? After all, just because a body of text says something does not mean that the action being described was actually carried out!

None of us were 'there' at the time and there has been so much distortion throughout history. For instance the Council Of Nicea which 'edited' what became the Cannon of Christianity in ways designed to belittle a segment of the population (ladies) and to ensure that priests reigned supreme over the masses. In doing all this it also left out much information which was common knowledge at the time but 'inconvenient' and therefore destined to be suppressed.

Its too soon... we need to wait a few years for when humanity has experienced the Illumination of The Soul, the Vatican Library has been opened, ET has arrived and more moderate people are religious leaders (rather than firebrands) - as only then will people be able to discuss such issues with much less chance of religious nut-job cultists wanting to kill all others for daring to suggest things that do not conform to their established and expected points of view.

Also in mind when I say all this is the Pope's former butler Paolo Gabriele, 46, who is currently on trial for stealing Benedict XVI's most private correspondence which revealed information that suggested there is corruption at the Holy See. This man should be seen as a hero for exposing what I suspect to be truthful information, but its just that little too early - so instead he is on trial. OK, at least the rest of Catholicism has not risen up in fury.

Simon

Edited by simple simon, 29 September 2012 - 09:59 PM.

[skylark]

**Meanwhile...'they' are infiltrating, threatening all others, and are Religiously at war with the world. So....

*’Sweeps’ NOTE:
...To the ‘Mohammadens’ we say, ‘We will treat you...as you act /’S’


As Pat Condell says...We don't care if you're offended, and we never will. Get used to it...AND...in ‘A word to rioting Muslims ‘, on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GCXHPKhRCVg#!

[simple simon]

I saw the video... all well and good but we are dealing with people who, for the most part, are simply incapable of understanding this man's message.

Especially at this time when so many (the religious nut-jobs & the elites) are all spoiling for a fight so it simply makes sense to bide our time. We know whats coming, and soon. Then we'll be able to resolve the matter for once and for all.

So, we should smile sweetly, speak kindly (but not kow-tow, no, never!), preach peace, compassion, etc., do more to keep the large Islamic populations in our urban areas both placated & integrated in society (ie: let the media talk about possible restrictions on clothing worn in public if there is 'trouble') and wait. The worst disaster for those of religion would be to stifle the war they are so keen on having.

Simon

Edited by simple simon, 30 September 2012 - 12:40 AM.

[skylark]

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
...Time to stop accomodating 'Mohammadens', and as the VIDEO LINK below suggests...stop 'The madness to our shores'. We must/will act now/'S'

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[simple simon]

There is a big difference between immigration and doing things which ignite firebrand people who are looking for an excuse to riot and invade those other nations which invaded the homelands of their kith and kin.

Humankind is on a ship that is sailing stormy waters. We dont need a fight onboard at a time when the boat is already reeling.

Especially not with people who have little mercy and see death of 'others' as being desirable.

Simon

[skylark]

LOL

*’Sweeps’ NOTE:
...Won’t do now or in the long run Simon. Think you do know that...we are at WAR already, most are in denial as usual. The U.S. Marines want folks to know the following...I believe it goes for Britain and the rest of the West as well. Thanks/’S’


CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS ??

This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to
finish. And send it on to everyone.

Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities.

Can a good Muslim be a good American?

This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20
years. The following is his reply:

Theologically - no.. Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon god of
Arabia .

Religiously - no... Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah
except Islam. (Quran,2:256)(Koran)

Scripturally - no... Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.

Geographically - no.. Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he
turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially - no...Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make
friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically - no.... Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual
leaders), who teach annihilation
of Israel and destruction of America , the great Satan.

Domestically - no... Because he is instructed to marry four Women and
beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him. (Quran 4:34 )

Intellectually - no.. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution
since it is based on Freedoms and even the Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically - no... Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran does not
allow freedom of religion and expression.

Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist.
Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or
autocratic.

Spiritually - no... Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' The
Christian's God is loving
and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is
he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.

Therefore, after much study and deliberation...
Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. - -

They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and 'good' Americans.

Call it what you wish it's still the truth…You had better believe it.

The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and
our future.

The religious war is bigger than we know or understand!

**Footnote: The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within.
SO FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.
THE MARINES WANT THIS TO ROLL ALL OVER THE U.S.

[simple simon]

Yup we are at war, they know it - whilst most on our side are in denial.

Their policy is one of stealth... be like a fifth columnist trojan horse, infiltrate and work from the inside.

My views are to meet duplicity with duplicity. Like them, you appear to be nice, treat all with civility, etc but also ensure the intel is working so that you know who lives where, works where, what they do, etc. The last thng you want people who live in your midst to start turning on you.

Bide time, strive for peace, be aware that within a few years the info and proof will be in the public domain that will send all people of religion reeling in shock as true history becomes known.

Mind you, this policy requires that if your own people also blindly follow a religion then they must not find out too much (in advance) about the looming public awareness of a history lesson.

As I understand it, we have less than a year to wait before the start of 'showtime', although the history lessons may come a while later.

Simon

Edited by simple simon, 02 October 2012 - 12:00 AM.

[skylark]

*’Sweeps’ NOTE:
...Interesting perspective...and ‘FEAR’ from an ex-Muslim/cum ‘Mohammaden’/’S’

Ex-Muslim: Islam 'scares the hell out of me'

'My culture of origin is infecting America with fear of speaking the
truth'

Nonie Darwish, founder of Arabs for Israel says...Islamic countries indoctrinate children with hatred toward Israel and teach them Israel has no historic claim to the land or the city of Jerusalem.

Darwish shares her story of being born into a Muslim family in Egypt and
being raised to hate Israel.


“It is the total annihilation of Israel and the Jews,” she said. “This
is what the center of the educational system in the whole Arab world is. We
were taught Jerusalem is a Muslim city; Jews had nothing to do with it, and
we have to liberate it. … There’s no acknowledgement that Jerusalem has
any roots in Judaism or Christianity. There’s total denial of history.”


Darwish said she only learned the truth after she came to America,
because the Muslim world often filters and censors information.
“I actually worked in censorship when I was a journalist in the Middle
East,” she explained. “Information is totally filtered, and the propaganda,
at the same time, is daily, very intense. Islam lives on propaganda and
denies the truth.”


She said any person who challenges the Muslim version of the truth is “
immediately regarded as a traitor, and riots happen and this person’s life is
threatened.”


Darwish warned, “This is now coming to the West, this fear that I used to
live in in the Muslim world – which was fear of speaking my mind, fear of
saying the truth – is now following me to America. … My culture of origin
is now infecting America with fear of speaking the truth.
She continued, “Unfortunately, we have an administration now that is
allowing this to happen and finding excuses for it. And that scares the hell out
of me.”


Darwish said she wants to see Arabs and Israelis living side by side in
peace, but that cannot happen as long as “the number one enemy of Islam is
the truth.”

She explained that Muslims have failed to deal with reality for the past
1,400 years and have irrationally loathed the Jewish people since
they rejected Muhammad in the seventh century.


Darwish said President Obama’s Middle East policy is a failure and it’s
been proven by the events of the past three weeks.

She said it’s unthinkable that America’s consulate in Benghazi did not
have enough security and that the Obama administration took 10 days to admit
Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others were killed in a terrorist
attack.


Obama called the murders a “bump in the road,” and Darwish wants to know,
“A bump in the road to what? The road to what?”
She added, “The road in the Middle East is turning into hell. What road
is he talking about?


“The Muslim Brotherhood already took over. Radical Islam and Shariah are
being entrenched in the whole Middle East. The radical Islamist groups are
ruling countries there now. They’re now ganging up to destroy Israel. They’
re about to have nuclear weapons.

We are in grave danger, and President Obama is talking about what? He’s talking
about a road to destruction. … He thinks there is a road that will bring peace?
What is he talking about?”


Darwish slammed what she considers Obama’s habit of apologizing to Muslims
and said it’s unclear why America should be apologizing.


“We are giving them the impression that we are very weak, and we want to
appease them,” she said. “We’re acting out of guilt for what?! We lost
3,000 citizens on 9/11, and we’re apologizing for what?”
She said Obama’s United Nations speech scared her – especially his
statement that “the future does not belong to those who slander of the prophet of
Islam.”

Darwish said no religion should be above criticism, and Obama’s
language reminds her of the repression inside her native Egypt. She also
said the lack of media scrutiny for Obama policies reminds her of how the
governments often control the media in the Middle East.


Finally, Darwish said Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is a “
brave man” in his defiance toward the Iranian nuclear program, but she
questioned whether Israel can successfully stop the program without any help from the United States.


She said it may already be too late to prevent a nuclear Iran.

[simple simon]

Well now, despite their fine words, the reality is that the many leaders of the Arab countries have no real concern for the plight of their fellow Palestinian brethen - but have found how by telling lies about the Palestinian situation they can keep their own people distracted from looking at the situation in their own countries.

I include the Muslim Brotherhood in that comment. And in my previous comments about religious cultists and 'firebrand people.'

btw, when I was working at the hospital earlier this year one of my colleagues was Islamic. He seemed a pleasent enough guy - certainly we all got on very well - and he did try to put my mind at rest by explaining that not everyone would need to convert to Islam and subject themselves to month long fasts, 5 prayer breaks a day and facial hair.

He said that as long as people who are Christain or Jewish pay their "Jizra" money then they will be protected under the Islamic system and be free to continue their faiths, albeit indoors / at home.

To me this sounds like paying blood money and about as attractive a proposition as someone sticking a long sword up my "rear end" so that its tip meets my tongue.

No Thanks!

Simon

[Yaeger]

Ron Paul has warned America about all this. But nobody listened to him. The GOP are fielding that dim-wit Romney who hasn't got the slightest chance to beat the Kenyan-born Indonesian Commie. Even if he does, his policies regarding the Arab world are exactly the same - war, war, war......... And the result will be the same - a growing security nightmare for all of us in North America and Western Europe.

[skylark]

**Make no mistake Yaeger, Ron Paul is an 'Isolationist' and 'Fortress America'...two concepts that would make the U.S.A. stand alone against the world. He has NO forward. As for Mitt Romney...YOU don't know him. I DO. He surely is not Dim in any sense. Don't speak/writer about things you have no experience with/in. Your views are uninformed on this issue. Your OBAMA views are definitely more to the point. I mean/'S'

*’Sweeps’ NOTE:
...More reason...for Europeans and the ‘WEST’ to have the RIGHT to ‘Keep and bear arms’. Better push for this RIGHT now folks. Read this-below-and KNOW another reason for ‘ARMS’ to defend yourselves and your family/community. And, once achieved...NEVER let ANY agency/government/or Figure take away your RIGHT to Guns/Ammo/and the use of them against tyranny from any source...and those who would take away your right to defend your RIGHTS/’S’


This was written by a woman born in Egypt as a Muslim.


Joys of Muslim Women-TAH!!!

By Nonie Darwish

In the Muslim faith a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 1 year old and have sexual intimacy with this child. Consummating the marriage by 9.

The dowry is given to the family in exchange for the woman (who becomes his slave) and for the purchase of the private parts of the woman, to use her as a toy.

Even though a woman is abused she can not obtain a divorce.

To prove rape, the woman must have (4) male witnesses.

Often after a woman has been raped, she is returned to her family and the family must return the dowry. The family has the right to execute her (an honor killing) to restore the honor of the family. Husbands can beat their wives 'at will' and he does not have to say why he has beaten her.

The husband is permitted to have (4 wives) and a temporary wife for an hour (prostitute) at his discretion.

The Shariah Muslim law controls the private as well as the public life of the woman.


In the West World ( America and Britain ) Muslim men are starting to demand Shariah Law so the wife can not obtain a divorce and he can have full and complete control of her. It is amazing and alarming how many of our sisters and daughters attending American Universities and British Universities are now marrying Muslim men and submitting themselves and their children unsuspectingly to the Shariah law.


By passing this on, enlightened American and British women may avoid becoming a slave under Shariah Law.

Ripping the West in Two.

Author and lecturer Nonie Darwish says the goal of radical Islamists is to impose Shariah law on the world, ripping Western law and liberty in two.

She recently authored the book, Cruel and Usual Punishment: The Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law.Darwish was born in Cairo and spent her childhood in Egypt and Gaza before immigrating to America in 1978, when she was eight years old. Her father died while leading covert attacks on Israel . He was a high-ranking Egyptian military officer stationed with his family in Gaza ..

When he died, he was considered a "shahid," a martyr for jihad. His posthumous status earned Nonie and her family an elevated position in Muslim society.


But Darwish developed a skeptical eye at an early age. She questioned her own Muslim culture and upbringing.. She converted to Christianity after hearing a Christian preacher on television.

In her latest book, Darwish warns about creeping shariah law - what it is, what it means, and how it is manifested in Islamic countries.

For the West, she says radical Islamists are working to impose sharia on the world. If that happens, Western civilization will be destroyed. Westerners generally assume all religions encourage a respect for the dignity of each individual. Islamic law (Sharia) teaches that non-Muslims should be subjugated or killed in this world.

Peace and prosperity for one's children is not as important as assuring that Islamic law rules everywhere in the Middle East and eventually in the world.

While Westerners tend to think that all religions encourage some form of the golden rule, Shariah teaches two systems of ethics - one for Muslims and another for non-Muslims. Building on tribal practices of the seventh century, Shariah encourages the side of humanity that wants to take from and subjugate others.

While Westerners tend to think in terms of religious people developing a personal understanding of and relationship with God, Shariah advocates executing people who ask difficult questions that could be interpreted as criticism.

It's hard to imagine, that in this day and age, Islamic scholars agree that those who criticize Islam or choose to stop being Muslim should be executed. Sadly, while talk of an Islamic reformation is common and even assumed by many in the West, such murmurings in the Middle East are silenced through intimidation

While Westerners are accustomed to an increase in religious tolerance over time, Darwish explains how petro dollars are being used to grow an extremely intolerant form of political Islam in her native Egypt and elsewhere.

(In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S.andBritain to elect the President and Prime Minister bythemselves! Rest assured they will do so.. You can look at how they have taken over several towns in the US... Dearborn Mich.isone... and there are others... Britain has several cities now totally controlled by Muslims.)

I think everyone in the U.S. And Great Britain should be required to read this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!

It is too bad that so many are disillusioned with life and Christianity to accept Muslims as peaceful. Some may be but they have an army that is willing to shed blood in the name of Islam. The peaceful support the warriors with their finances and own kind of patriotism to their religion. While America and Britain are getting rid of Christianity from all public sites and erasing God from the lives of children, the Muslims are planning a great jihad on America and Britain ..