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[skylark]

WHAT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR-FOR EVERY ONES SAKE

-READ/SIFT/LISTEN THROUGH OUR FORUM TOPICS…FIND OUT MORE-

*'Sweeps' NOTE:…We Fight for 'Rights/Freedoms'. Full UFO/ET 'Disclosure' tops the list, but we don't want such disclosure to be used 'as pretext' to impose 'Martial Law' and dis-inform about Alien intentions…which will be used by governments to gain more controls/predictability over the world's people for the gain of a 'New World Order'.

We oppose governments/Corporations 'Spying on us', using 'Technology' to steal our freedoms, to take away national sovereignty, The continuing Culture of 'Dumbing us down' with controlled Media/News/& Education, or make any law/decision which impairs 'Free thinking'. We are steadfastly SURE that democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. We are convinced…that most bad government results from too much government.

We also take note of the hidden agendas of 'Social Engineering', & warn strongly against corruption/lies/in all quarters/business-government agendas to FORCE compliance 'against the will of the individual and citizens. We include here...the failed & dishonest 'War On Drugs', which is a 'War On People'.

We keep in mind:
Lawyers/Judges can and do destroy justice
Universities can and do destroy Knowledge,
Governments can and do destroy freedom,
Major media destroy Information, and
Religion destroys spirituality.

*We also affirm whole heartedly…that No free man/woman should ever be denied the use of private arms/ammo.
…AND Sure we invite alternate &/or complimentary comments/opinions from our members. More later, as we enter unsure times…and needed Revolution/'S'

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BUT…if YOU don't like the intrusions/disagree with the 'Power & Control' over us/think Small government is better than BIG/believe in the Individual and Small business…'The Middle Class'/Then better Check the headings below…you might be on a 'Terrorist List'. Interesting huh? What ever happened to free DISSENT?

The United Nations
The New World Order
Gun Control
The violation of Posse Comitatus
The Federal Reserve
The Income Tax
The Ammunition and Accountability Act
A possible Constitutional Convention
The North American Union
Universal Service Program
Radio Frequency Identification (RFID)
Abortion
Illegal Immigration
'The Green Agenda'/Global Warming SCAM

* Think about it. Are…the American/Other World Governments NOW acting like a 'MOB BOSS' type of 'Take over'…of our 'Freedoms'/Civil Liberties/and 'way of life'.

[captain]

WHAT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR-FOR EVERY ONES SAKE

-READ/SIFT/LISTEN THROUGH OUR FORUM TOPICS…FIND OUT MORE-

*'Sweeps' NOTE:…We Fight for 'Rights/Freedoms'. Full UFO/ET 'Disclosure' tops the list, but we don't want such disclosure to be used 'as pretext' to impose 'Martial Law' and dis-inform about Alien intentions…which will be used by governments to gain more controls/predictability over the world's people for the gain of a 'New World Order'.

We oppose governments/Corporations 'Spying on us', using 'Technology' to steal our freedoms, to take away national sovereignty, The continuing Culture of 'Dumbing us down' with controlled Media/News/& Education, or make any law/decision which impairs 'Free thinking'. We are steadfastly SURE that democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. We are convinced…that most bad government results from too much government.

We also take note of the hidden agendas of 'Social Engineering', & warn strongly against corruption/lies/in all quarters/business-government agendas to FORCE compliance 'against the will of the individual and citizens. We include here...the failed & dishonest 'War On Drugs', which is a 'War On People'.

We keep in mind:
Lawyers/Judges can and do destroy justice
Universities can and do destroy Knowledge,
Governments can and do destroy freedom,
Major media destroy Information, and
Religion destroys spirituality.

*We also affirm whole heartedly…that No free man/woman should ever be denied the use of private arms/ammo.
…AND Sure we invite alternate &/or complimentary comments/opinions from our members. More later, as we enter unsure times…and needed Revolution/'S'

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BUT…if YOU don't like the intrusions/disagree with the 'Power & Control' over us/think Small government is better than BIG/believe in the Individual and Small business…'The Middle Class'/Then better Check the headings below…you might be on a 'Terrorist List'. Interesting huh? What ever happened to free DISSENT?

The United Nations
The New World Order
Gun Control
The violation of Posse Comitatus
The Federal Reserve
The Income Tax
The Ammunition and Accountability Act
A possible Constitutional Convention
The North American Union
Universal Service Program
Radio Frequency Identification (RFID)
Abortion
Illegal Immigration
'The Green Agenda'/Global Warming SCAM

* Think about it. Are…the American/Other World Governments NOW acting like a 'MOB BOSS' type of 'Take over'…of our 'Freedoms'/Civil Liberties/and 'way of life'.

-Great Sweeps,
-Good new/updated OUTLINE of indeed 'What we are fighting for'. This should bring people in on all the current mess including the 'Socialist-Fascist government' heading in the 'States'. Let's NIP all of these tragedies to 'Freedom' round the world.
-Here's a self explanatory E-mail I'd received this week. Take it on board folks-Captain

When my dad attended Texas Tech, he had an economics professor that said
he had never failed a single student before but had, once, failed an
entire class. That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no
one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The
professor then said ok, we will have an experiment in this class on
socialism.

All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade
so no one would fail and no one would receive an A. After the first test
the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied
hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. But, as
the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had
studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a
free ride too; so they studied little. The second Test average was a D!
No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around the average was an F.

The scores never increased as bickering, blame, name calling all
resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for anyone else. All
failed to their great surprise and the professor told them that
socialism would ultimately fail because the harder to succeed the
greater the reward but when a government takes all the reward away; no
one will try or succeed!

A LESSON TO HEED, FOR OUR SOCIALIST-FASCIST CONGRESS & PRESIDENT!

[Seth Haniel]

Right On

[skylark]

Right On

...Thanks for coming in on this Seth & Captain*
*'Sweeps' NOTE:

…Folks…we all need to 'wake up'/understand what's really happening today. That we are in a FIGHT/STRUGGLE to maintain our sovereignty and keep our American Constitution paramount…over International rule of our country. Others…In Europe need to know this also…if they are to protect their freedoms and values. Get some good books written by those who foresee the future if we don't act.

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As Rush Limbaugh is fond of saying…there is a core constituency in Congress that doesn't believe the free market idea is adequately serving the American people. They also don't want our 'Constitution' held as supreme in the world.

This group believes it is the government's prerogative to force an agenda onto the public, because the public is too unenlightened or too primitive or too provincial for its own good.

…In other words, this core constituency believes that you and I aren't smart enough to figure things out for ourselves, and that we need their help in order to form the correct points of view…their points of view.

It really IS…Obama's War on American Values now…Let US shine some light on the dark mission of the left…shutting down conservative voices on the radio… and, in the process, eviscerating the First Amendment…leading the U.S.A. toward a totalitarian/Fascist State, and stripping the 'Constitution' by THEIR 'Trans-National' plans to give the UN & The International Monetary Fund power of us.

We need to know/examine how Congress and the president will rationalize the coming changes…using language like 'diversity'/'fairness'/and 'tolerance'.

This is about power and silencing all meaningful opposition/'S'

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[jillh10]

...Thanks for coming in on this Seth & Captain*
*'Sweeps' NOTE:

…Folks…we all need to 'wake up'/understand what's really happening today. That we are in a FIGHT/STRUGGLE to maintain our sovereignty and keep our American Constitution paramount…over International rule of our country. Others…In Europe need to know this also…if they are to protect their freedoms and values. Get some good books written by those who foresee the future if we don't act.

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As Rush Limbaugh is fond of saying…there is a core constituency in Congress that doesn't believe the free market idea is adequately serving the American people. They also don't want our 'Constitution' held as supreme in the world.

This group believes it is the government's prerogative to force an agenda onto the public, because the public is too unenlightened or too primitive or too provincial for its own good.

…In other words, this core constituency believes that you and I aren't smart enough to figure things out for ourselves, and that we need their help in order to form the correct points of view…their points of view.

It really IS…Obama's War on American Values now…Let US shine some light on the dark mission of the left…shutting down conservative voices on the radio… and, in the process, eviscerating the First Amendment…leading the U.S.A. toward a totalitarian/Fascist State, and stripping the 'Constitution' by THEIR 'Trans-National' plans to give the UN & The International Monetary Fund power of us.

We need to know/examine how Congress and the president will rationalize the coming changes…using language like 'diversity'/'fairness'/and 'tolerance'.

This is about power and silencing all meaningful opposition/'S'

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If they havent woken up yet after finding out that the IRS is commiting fraud everyday by making people pay income tax, they will never change. We are the same in the UK, take a look at the Lisbon treaty, the Lile loophole http://www.carolinejackson-mep.org.uk/news..._-_Dec_2007.htm and of course the killer, the law of Admerality which we are all bound too when we are born..here is a good place to start http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/4890

You really need to listen to this guy also...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpESn0mxSdk

Finally...you dont need to buy books, just read a non tabloid paper and watch euro news and aljazeera, dont count on the BBC bollox to give unbiased accounts of whats going on, they just tell you about bread and butter issues and its all lies. Visit Asley Motes site and get his books if you want to know why we are suffering, he doesnt charge for the them INFORMATION OF THIS MAGNITUDE SHOULD BE FREE wake up fer feks sakes watch this video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=118230605129915010

[skylark]

If they havent woken up yet after finding out that the IRS is commiting fraud everyday by making people pay income tax, they will never change. We are the same in the UK, take a look at the Lisbon treaty, the Lile loophole http://www.carolinejackson-mep.org.uk/news..._-_Dec_2007.htm and of course the killer, the law of Admerality which we are all bound too when we are born..here is a good place to start http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/4890

You really need to listen to this guy also...http://www.youtube.com/watch?=VpESn0mxSdk

Finally...you dont need to buy books, just read a non tabloid paper and watch euro news and aljazeera, dont count on the BBC bollox to give unbiased accounts of whats going on, they just tell you about bread and butter issues and its all lies. Visit Asley Motes site and get his books if you want to know why we are suffering, he doesnt charge for the them INFORMATION OF THIS MAGNITUDE SHOULD BE FREE wake up fer feks sakes watch this video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=118230605129915010

*Dig It,
...On top of this kid. Lots of REVOLUTION forming out there, People fighting/becoming aware of...what 'governments' have done/will continue to do...if they are not stopped Dead/S'

[skylark]

*Dig It,
...On top of this kid. Lots of REVOLUTION forming out there, People fighting/becoming aware of...what 'governments' have done/will continue to do...if they are not stopped Dead/S'

A LETTER TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FROM IRELAND

YOU ARE IN A WAR WITH YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT AND DON'T KNOW IT-

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…We are in a FIGHT for the very basic rights in the 'Constitution'…protect them. Frame works has already been set up & ready to Shred them...and soon…by 'shadowy secret agenda' groups' working right out of the 'Power' in Washington D.C. AND 'The White House'. So, YOU have to start 'taking back the Country'/'S'

...One simple/great way to start:
BONFIRE PROTESTS-
Organize local/community/city/& Nationwide BONFIRES and Burn the CENSUS
FOLDERS, in large groups, individually, and in defiance/protests in front of
City Halls and the Capitol itself.
'They' can not process the ACORN collected/disseminated data if this MASS
Protest/civil disobedience succeeds.

The only thing the 'Constitution' requires from a Census is:
1. How many people live in 'this' house/home?
2. Are you an American Citizen?
Everything else which has been ADDED becomes invasion of privacy, intrusion
of Big Government, and meant for Prediction and control of the population by
vested interest groups. It is patently 'Undemocratic'. Resist and
demonstrate. Burn Baby Burn. 'They' could then do nothing.

This would be a 'step up' from the 'Peaceful/hopeful' protests of 'Tea Parties', & would allow folks to really show the Country they mean business on 'Big Government controls on our freedoms'.

These 'Bonfires' would, pardon the pun, light a fire under the Media's lack luster/poor coverage of the average Joe & Jane's distrust/outrage at the attacks by Government of 'The Constitution'.

It would also send the dual message of 'Anti-global warming/anti-'Cap and Tax/Trade', since the Bonfires would be sending Carbon rich protests into the sky...affirming what the NASA climate satellite just concluded. Although not given much Press of course, NASA's conclusion was that 'The Sun warms the Earth'.

Simply put, humankind's activities have little or no effect on 'CLIMATE'. Hundreds of Scientists/meteorologists/climatologists have left the IPCC-International Panel On Climate Change-due to 'their' fiddling figures and world temperatures. 'They' are now being 'black balled' in their jobs/careers for daring to speak the truth about the 'Climate Warming'/Carbon SCAM.

We are now in the early Throes of organizing mass protests, to protect our Rights/Civil Liberties/and our
Values, the Bonfires would be a good/necessary beginning to bring all those 'Patriots' together across the Nation.

Time for Government to Fear the People. What you do in America 'RIGHT NOW' will determine if freedoms can survive anywhere.

[skylark]

A LETTER TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FROM IRELAND

YOU ARE IN A WAR WITH YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT AND DON'T KNOW IT-

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…We are in a FIGHT for the very basic rights in the 'Constitution'…protect them. Frame works has already been set up & ready to Shred them...and soon…by 'shadowy secret agenda' groups' working right out of the 'Power' in Washington D.C. AND 'The White House'. So, YOU have to start 'taking back the Country'/'S'

...One simple/great way to start:
BONFIRE PROTESTS-
Organize local/community/city/& Nationwide BONFIRES and Burn the CENSUS
FOLDERS, in large groups, individually, and in defiance/protests in front of
City Halls and the Capitol itself.
'They' can not process the ACORN collected/disseminated data if this MASS
Protest/civil disobedience succeeds.

The only thing the 'Constitution' requires from a Census is:
1. How many people live in 'this' house/home?
2. Are you an American Citizen?
Everything else which has been ADDED becomes invasion of privacy, intrusion
of Big Government, and meant for Prediction and control of the population by
vested interest groups. It is patently 'Undemocratic'. Resist and
demonstrate. Burn Baby Burn. 'They' could then do nothing.

This would be a 'step up' from the 'Peaceful/hopeful' protests of 'Tea Parties', & would allow folks to really show the Country they mean business on 'Big Government controls on our freedoms'.

These 'Bonfires' would, pardon the pun, light a fire under the Media's lack luster/poor coverage of the average Joe & Jane's distrust/outrage at the attacks by Government of 'The Constitution'.

It would also send the dual message of 'Anti-global warming/anti-'Cap and Tax/Trade', since the Bonfires would be sending Carbon rich protests into the sky...affirming what the NASA climate satellite just concluded. Although not given much Press of course, NASA's conclusion was that 'The Sun warms the Earth'.

Simply put, humankind's activities have little or no effect on 'CLIMATE'. Hundreds of Scientists/meteorologists/climatologists have left the IPCC-International Panel On Climate Change-due to 'their' fiddling figures and world temperatures. 'They' are now being 'black balled' in their jobs/careers for daring to speak the truth about the 'Climate Warming'/Carbon SCAM.

We are now in the early Throes of organizing mass protests, to protect our Rights/Civil Liberties/and our
Values, the Bonfires would be a good/necessary beginning to bring all those 'Patriots' together across the Nation.

Time for Government to Fear the People. What you do in America 'RIGHT NOW' will determine if freedoms can survive anywhere.

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…More government PERVERSION and laws 'Against it's own citizens'. NOW, groups in Congress are calling for 'Detention of Citizens WITHOUT Trial/Charges/and for an indeterminate time'. Don't believe it. Watch the Video below. Wise Up…this is what will be coming down the Pipe, and what CAN/WILL set off the next 'American Revolution'. No Bunk folks…this of course would be in complete violation of ANY Constitutional interpretation. If ANYTHING like this becomes 'enacted'…the WAR will be on. Let it be….then/'S'

*CLICK below on the 'My Website' Link for this look at the near future:

Visit My Website

[skylark]

*'sweeps' NOTE:
...This Video Link-below-definitely belongs in this TOPIC. Learn by it folks...it's essential to understanding, as we do, what we are FIGHTING FOR. Thanks/'Sweeps'

WHAT SHOULD AMERICA BE?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DioQooFIcgE&feature=player_embedded#!

[skylark]

*’Sweeps’ NOTE:
AGAIN AND REPEAT AND REPEAT...The BIG LESSON that Ireland and other EU Countries MUST learn….hasn’t transpired. Why? POLITICS/NWO/and CONTROL of citizens by their Governments.


Once the governments start to ‘fear their people’…Democracy and release from bondage CAN and Will happen. Here-below-is that Lesson. Time for citizens to take back their government, the banks, and ‘their’ world/’S’

ICELANDIC ANGER….BRINGS BEST DEBT RELIEF-FROM ‘BLOOMBERG.COM’

Icelanders who pelted parliament with rocks in 2009 demanding their leaders and bankers answer for the country’s economic and financial collapse are reaping the benefits of their anger.

Since the end of 2008, the island’s banks have forgiven loans equivalent to 13 percent of gross domestic product, easing the debt burdens of more than a quarter of the population, according to a report published this month by the Icelandic Financial Services Association.

“You could safely say that Iceland holds the world record in household debt relief,” said Lars Christensen, chief emerging markets economist at Danske Bank A/S in Copenhagen. “Iceland followed the textbook example of what is required in a crisis. Any economist would agree with that.”

The island’s steps to resurrect itself since 2008, when its banks defaulted on $85 billion, are proving effective. Iceland’s economy will this year outgrow the euro area and the developed world on average, the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development estimates. It costs about the same to insure against an Icelandic default as it does to guard against a credit event in Belgium. Most polls now show Icelanders don’t want to join the European Union, where the debt crisis is in its third year.

The island’s households were helped by an agreement between the government and the banks, which are still partly controlled by the state, to forgive debt exceeding 110 percent of home values. On top of that, a Supreme Court ruling in June 2010 found loans indexed to foreign currencies were illegal, meaning households no longer need to cover krona losses.

Crisis Lessons
“The lesson to be learned from Iceland’s crisis is that if other countries think it’s necessary to write down debts, they should look at how successful the 110 percent agreement was here,” said Thorolfur Matthiasson, an economics professor at the University of Iceland in Reykjavik, in an interview. “It’s the broadest agreement that’s been undertaken.”
Without the relief, homeowners would have buckled under the weight of their loans after the ratio of debt to incomes surged to 240 percent in 2008, Matthiasson said.

Iceland’s $13 billion economy, which shrank 6.7 percent in 2009, grew 2.9 percent last year and will expand 2.4 percent this year and next, the Paris-based OECD estimates. The euro area will grow 0.2 percent this year and the OECD area will expand 1.6 percent, according to November estimates.

Housing, measured as a subcomponent in the consumer price index, is now only about 3 percent below values in September 2008, just before the collapse. Fitch Ratings last week raised Iceland to investment grade, with a stable outlook, and said the island’s “unorthodox crisis policy response has succeeded.”
People Vs Markets

Iceland’s approach to dealing with the meltdown has put the needs of its population ahead of the markets at every turn.

Once it became clear back in October 2008 that the island’s banks were beyond saving, the government stepped in, ring-fenced the domestic accounts, and left international creditors in the lurch. The central bank imposed capital controls to halt the ensuing sell-off of the krona and new state-controlled banks were created from the remnants of the lenders that failed.

Activists say the banks should go even further in their debt relief. Andrea J. Olafsdottir, chairman of the Icelandic Homes Coalition, said she doubts the numbers provided by the banks are reliable.
“There are indications that some of the financial institutions in question haven’t lost a penny with the measures that they’ve undertaken,” she said.
Fresh Demands

According to Kristjan Kristjansson, a spokesman for Landsbankinn hf, the amount written off by the banks is probably larger than the 196.4 billion kronur ($1.6 billion) that the Financial Services Association estimates, since that figure only includes debt relief required by the courts or the government.
“There are still a lot of people facing difficulties; at the same time there are a lot of people doing fine,” Kristjansson said. “It’s nearly impossible to say when enough is enough; alongside every measure that is taken, there are fresh demands for further action.”

As a precursor to the global Occupy Wall Street movement and austerity protests across Europe, Icelanders took to the streets after the economic collapse in 2008. Protests escalated in early 2009, forcing police to use teargas to disperse crowds throwing rocks at parliament and the offices of then Prime Minister Geir Haarde. Parliament is still deciding whether to press ahead with an indictment that was brought against him in September 2009 for his role in the crisis.

A new coalition, led by Social Democrat Prime Minister Johanna Sigurdardottir, was voted into office in early 2009. The authorities are now investigating most of the main protagonists of the banking meltdown.

Legal Aftermath
Iceland’s special prosecutor has said it may indict as many as 90 people, while more than 200, including the former chief executives at the three biggest banks, face criminal charges.

Larus Welding, the former CEO of Glitnir Bank hf, once Iceland’s second biggest, was indicted in December for granting illegal loans and is now waiting to stand trial. The former CEO of Landsbanki Islands hf, Sigurjon Arnason, has endured stints of solitary confinement as his criminal investigation continues.

That compares with the U.S., where no top bank executives have faced criminal prosecution for their roles in the subprime mortgage meltdown. The Securities and Exchange Commission said last year it had sanctioned 39 senior officers for conduct related to the housing market meltdown.

The U.S. subprime crisis sent home prices plunging 33 percent from a 2006 peak. While households there don’t face the same degree of debt relief as that pushed through in Iceland, President Barack Obama this month proposed plans to expand loan modifications, including some principal reductions.

According to Christensen at Danske Bank, “the bottom line is that if households are insolvent, then the banks just have to go along with it, regardless of the interests of the banks.”

[simple simon]

I wonder whether I'll be reading this in our MSM (rhetorical question).

When it was found that Tesco were getting free staff (some even on the night shift!) under a workfare scheme for the unemployed the public reaction was so hostile that Tesco changed its policy - it will now pay the people it 'employs' under the scheme and try to taken them on as paid employees afterwards.

Simon

[skylark]

*OH YEAH,
...It can and will happen...'on all fronts', when the PUBLIC gets really HOSTILE/worked up.
That, of course, is THE lesson. Use FEAR against government, the Officials in banking and management, and for ALL redresses of infringements on Liberties and Civil Rights.
This needed tactic will be seen/used more and more....even against the most egregious weaponry of TPTB/'S'