Anti E U Anger Win Elections & Local Ones Too
Posted 27 May 2014 - 07:17 PM
Europe's political landscape is changing and the people seem to be waking up finally. Interesting times ahead of us.
Posted 28 May 2014 - 05:45 PM
THE EU GETS A REVOLTING MESSAGE FROM ITS SHEEP IN THE ELECTION**But 'The Sweeps Fox Show' on the Libon Treaty...told you all that a couple of years ago...what to expect...SO
The EU will hold...yet another summit meeting today, to ‘seek a way out of the election quagmire’, The Associated Press reports...which has them ‘shaken to the core’
...Yep Yaeger and ALL. People are ANGRY and in ‘fighting mode’ about everything EURO. Across the ‘Irish Sea’...the British Government and QUEEN are trembling, since their very financial and ‘Agenda’ in the world is now being ‘Attacked’. They have themselves to blame. A nation (do they still exist in the Euro-Zone?) can not take away the ‘Middle Class’, its Culture, History, and MAP and jobs...create what is all over Europe ‘A welfare State’ of existence while bringing in MASS Immigration with no ‘checks’. Soon, as Maggie Thatcher did say, ‘After awhile one runs out of other people’s money’ to pay for anything.
There is POPULAR OUTRAGE , but Euro Zone voters should know...that by ‘taking over’ 1/3 of the EU Parliament Seats...still leave 2/3rd to gather their Forces of Tyranny and Austerity/Control. The ‘Before It’s News’ Site ran a very in depth article...some of which I’ve edited/Summerized below. Thanks/’S’
The overall outcome of the European Parliament elections on Sunday was a political earthquake. The strong anti-Europe vote which swept a half dozen countries–in some countries for ‘left’ parties, in some for ‘right’ ones–was particularly notable in France, where the National Front (FN) got twice the number of votes as President Francois Hollande’s Socialist Party, and in the United Kingdom, where UKIP beat out both the Conservatives and the Labour Party for the first time in an entire CENTURY.
Mrs. Zepp-LaRouche cautioned against thinking that the British Empire’s pro-European faction will sit around licking their wounds for long; rather, they know they have to move ahead quickly with their fascist policies, given that their entire financial system is coming crumbling down now.
The principal British imperial media, such as the Financial Times and the Telegraph, reflect a sense of growing panic, and are particularly concerned about the strategic significance of the French results. In an article headlined ‘Stark warning from Europe’s voters’. The most alarming outcome was the one in France. The triumph of the FN/’National Front Party’, and the shattering defeat for the Socialist party have dealt another setback to Francois Hollande’s dismal presidency. The result makes it harder for France to play a full role beside Germany as the traditional motor of European integration. The Financial Times then instructs Hollande that he should fall on the sword for the Queen.
The London Telegraph likewise emphasizes that Hollande’s drubbing ‘raises serious questions over his government’s ability to implement economic measures demanded by the eurozone to preserve the stability of the EU’s single currency’.
It SIMPLY means that this ELECTION could throw the whole European Union project into a cocked hat. Italian business publications are also saying that the era of European reforms is over, since the French-German alliance for Europe is finished.
Posted 29 May 2014 - 10:47 PM
In my view the vanishing funds can be attributed to much more than just corruption by crooked EU parasites. We need to see a stop to money being siphoned off (to support US black ops, Solar Warden, DUMBS, etc., perhaps?)
We also needs to see a new style of EU; smaller, less powerful, more like EFTA. Retain free trade, but get rid of Common Purpose, Agenda 21, Codex Alimantaris (the anti-herbal remedy law), etc.
I'd rather see the EU very significantly reformed than breaking up, but if this is not possible then I would vote to leave it, albeit with a heavy heart.
Posted 03 June 2014 - 06:52 PM
...I really DO, like this article entitled 'AFTERSHOCKS'. Have a GOOD read Folks, and get back I hope with your own opinions/comments. Best and thanks/'S'
… by Michael Shrimpton
Nigel Farage, UKIP
by Islamic extremists, a little bit like Teheran. It is a borough where recounts are ordered at the drop of a hat, non-Islamic votes mysteriously disappear and officials know the results in advance, like the bad old USSR.
That the Electoral Commission permits such democratic outrages simply reinforces the strong case being made by that nice man Nigel Farage MEP for its abolition. Its responsibilities should go back to the Home Office.
The final results, with percentage vote in brackets, were:
UKIP 24 MEPs (27.5%), Labour 20 (25.4%), Tories 19 (23.9%), Scottish National Party 2, Lib Dems 1 (6.87%), Plaid Cymru 1, Sinn Fein 1, Democratic Unionists 1 and Ulster Unionists 1. The percentage figures are for mainland Britain.
These figures are shattering. UKIP are the first party other than Labour or the Tories to win a national election for over 100 years. David Cameron’s response has been complacent in the extreme, arrogantly assuming that most UKIP voters will return to the Tories at the next general election. One recent poll suggests that 86% of UKIP voters will carry on voting for the party.
Even allowing for much a higher turnout (say 60%, or 2/3 more than on 22nd May), if UKIP voters remain loyal in anything like that sort of number the Tories could not possibly win. If Cameron remains leader, the most my party could expect to win in 2015 would be about 250 seats. Labour would probably get about 350, i.e. enough to form a government on their own.
Deposing CameronGeorge Osborne, Chancellor of the Exchequer
Cameron however does not have to remain leader. Indeed, the case for deposing him is overwhelming. Having broken his promise to hold a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty only the raving moderates in the Tory Party are buying his promise to hold an in/out referendum on EU membership.
Word on the street is that he would get out of the promise – which is only a political promise, remember, i.e. not a terribly meaningful one – by resigning, in favour of George Osborne, the fanatically pro-EU Chancellor of the Exchequer. Osborne is being careful not to tie himself to an in/out referendum.
So far as I know the Cabinet Secretary has vetoed any work on detailed negotiations with the EU on a return of powers to the UK. Since the Germans have ruled out reform (obviously an ersatz set of reforms would be on the table, as in 1975) negotiations would be pointless anyway. President Hollande of France has talked about supporting reform, but it’s only talk.
The obvious way forward, for UKIP, the Tory Party and the UK, is a UKIP/Tory pact. In a panic, the Tory leadership have taken to denying that the party has ever formed an electoral pact. As I explained last week this is nonsense, indeed, since the pact with the Lib Dems was covertly agreed in advance of the 2010 election, it is specious nonsense. Forming a pact was the whole idea behind Cameron’s agreement to Nick Clegg’s inclusion in the notorious 2010 televised debates.
Clearly any pact would have to be on the basis of outright withdrawal from the EU. Reform has never seriously been on the agenda, nor is it in the UK’s interest to be in the so-called single market. In reality of course there is no single market, and UK products, such as lamb and beef, are excluded if national economic interests dictate.
There would need to be a generous number of winnable seats for UKIP, and a generous allocation of Cabinet posts. UKIP would have to be offered more seats than they could hope to win on their own. Across most policy areas there is broad agreement between the Tory Right and UKIP, many of whose members are ex Tories anyway. Whether UKIP wished to continue as a separate party after EU withdrawal would be a matter entirely for them.
Since the UK trades with other EU member states at a massive deficit, and several million European workers are dumped here, neither free movement of goods, not free movement of workers, is in our national interest.
Since there would need to be a transitional period of say one year in any event, the logical way to proceed would be to give 12 months’ notice of withdrawal from the EU Treaty under the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties. This would avoid the need for complex negotiations with our EU enemies, sorry partners.
Posted 03 June 2014 - 10:44 PM
Its where traditionally immigrants go - Huguenots, Jews, now Moslems.
For some reason the local government has its own mayor. To my eyes this seems pointless and probably is expensive - but since when did the amount of other people's money required to meet your own aspirations ever worry a politician? (except at election time, perhaps?)
Clegg campaigned for what he believed in. Its just that few people shared or desired his vision of the future! Nevertheless I respect him for not following the blowing wind. I wonder how few MP's he will lead after the next general election?
Yes its true that there are calls for both Miliband (Labour) and Clegg (LibDem) to be replaced. I do not recall hearing calls for Cameron to go. The issue with Ukip is that they are a single policy party with a well known and charismatic leader - but nothing more. The rest of the party are unknowns and whilst they may prove to be excellent politicians we do not know for sure.
Whilst I voted UKIP for the EU parliament I am not sure that I would do likewise for Westminster. I wonder how many other people think the same way?
Britain would need to change if it were to leave the EU - at present we still run a budget deficit and were spending to be cut to balance the books then the reduction in spending could see some areas explode into an orgy of violence - especially poorer areas where jobs are scarce and most people need welfare to survive.
We are in a period of change (Blood Moons and all that). Who knows what the political, economic or even geophysical landscape will be when the Tetrad ends in autumn 2015.
Edited by simple simon, 03 June 2014 - 10:46 PM.
Posted 05 June 2014 - 07:41 PM
...More grist for your milling of ideas, on the way to understanding what happen to the EU in the latest round of Elections. This, below, from 'VETERANS TODAY' Site. Thanks...and offer your own comments and opinions/'S'
Le Front national epicentre des legislatives
We had been predicting at Veterans Today that the EU Parliament Elections were going to wipe some smug smiles off the faces of the Euro elitists. We were right. That had been their standard reaction when asked about the simmering discontent over not just the economic situation, but a growing list of fundamental concerns of their societies undergoing their own polar icecap melt down.
The driving issue concerned the crisis in Western leadership that finally people seemed to be finally waking up, like they were coming out of a dream state. And by leadership I do not only mean the individual cases where you could pick your favorite clown or special interest sock-puppet. The anger goes past them and into the parties themselves.
There had been a shift in thinking that changing an old face for a new one on a party with a long record of duplicity and hypocrisy was just a waste of time. I agree completely. People began giving up on the elite controlled parties, willing to take a chance on anything over proven failures.
Political parties are being recognized for what they are, nothing more than special interest groups in themselves, infiltrated and co-opted into pretending to be something they are not, with all the celebrity talent their huge campaign funds can buy. As the famous Burger King granny ad immortalized, people began to ask “Where’s the beef?”
Let’s take a whirlwind tour of how some of the candidates reacted, and of course the corporate media presstitutes always step up to show their usefulness in molding public opinion. They represented a comedy tour of sorts, as they all dueled for the prize of creating the winning buzz word to describe the EU rebels as flakes and rabble.
The New York Times led with their expected elitist snobbery by labeling the pitchfork rebels as “fringe groups”. Certainly there are some, but what was NYT’s point? Do not the Democrats and Republicans have some “fringe groups” within their ranks, who are never smeared with that term unless they are in the opposition party, where the term “extremist” is the favorite moniker.
It’s a wonderful word. When someone asks you what it really means you don’t have to risk an unsatisfactory answer. You can just say, “You know…an EXTREMIST”. That usually does the trick. In the sales business, this is called the “assumed close”.
“Radical Anti-establishment parties”As a news wire service example, I chose AP, another media entity that crossed over to the opinion molders, for their 30 pieces of silver. Their spin headline was, … “EU leaders struggled for a response Tuesday to a dismal European vote that saw dramatic gains by radical anti-establishment parties, with Britain, Germany and France urging EU reform.”
They went a tad overboard with the “radical anti-establishment parties” terminology, followed by a desire for positive action, as “reform”. Dear AP wire, download a new dictionary. Voters interested in reform are not radicals. They are anti-corruption – a universal concern. They are populists. Only a sold out media platform would try to paint them as radicals. But don’t feel left out. These “radicals”, as you call them, feel the same way about you and the politicians for selling them out. Shame on you.
The Washington Post, another establishment icon, took a safer and more realistic line with… “But the strong showing by anti-EU parties reflected widespread anger toward mainstream politicians and the appeal of populists at either end of the spectrum, particularly the far right.”
Notice how WP used the populist term that AP was afraid to use. WP acknowledged that both the left (ask Hollande) and right (ask Cameron) lost voters. AP used “radicals” to mask the broad resentment that this election upheaval showed. The disaffected voters no longer believe in party reform because they know it is corrupt to the bone.
Fringe groups or not, these incoming members gave the public a door number 3, 4, 5 and 6 to choose from, where what you see is what you get. Many view this as a breath of fresh air in the musky old club rooms of Europe. I could smell the elitist fear all the way from Atlanta.
I found French President Francios Hollande was the most creative, without being pitifully dismissive. And he had good reason to be, as his Socialist Party suffered a crushing defeat (pulling only 14%) to the long suffering punching bag, the National Front. He used a tactic we call the “duck and dodge”, where “It’s not my problem…it’s OUR problem”. He wanted all of Europe to share in his defeat.
“Yes, there is a problem,…But it’s not only a problem for France and to which France must find an answer… It’s also a problem for Europe.” That was a skillfully designed response, stating the obvious as a confidence builder by telling tales on his fellow European elitists that they are in just as bad shape.
That was the dodge part, which Angela Merkel showed was not really true. Germany got through this shift without major damage, as her two coalition parties did very well. But Germany has the strongest economy in Europe and has not raped and robbed its own like many of the others, so German voters were not as hostile. The Germans are real big on order, personal responsibility, and pulling together for shared benefit. They have their political issues, but complete lack of faith in government is not one of them.
The Brits were quickest out of the block with calls for change, so quick that it showed they had good poll takers and were well prepared for post-election day. There was no duck and dodge tactics like with Hollande. Cameron was smartly (but probably being insincere) owning up to the anti-EU surge, which was easy for him to do as that is squarely on the front burner in British politics.
But he took it further with his “[the vote] is a clear message that we cannot just shrug off… and carry on as before…The EU has got too big, too bossy, too interfering and needs to concentrate on growth and jobs.” This was another stating-the-obvious tactic, with a twist of, “I feel your pain.”
He’s a pro at this. British elites learn this stuff in finishing school.
Posted 07 June 2014 - 06:09 PM
...Rather fancy this reaction from the LEADER of the WINNING 'National Front' Party...ANTI-EU. Good on her/'S'
Le Pen on Ukraine crisis: US pursuing own interests, not those of EU
French far-right leader opposes ‘EU demonization of Russia’
French far-right leader Marine le Pen has spoken out in support of Russia and expressed her dismay at Paris’s refusal to allow MPs to meet State Duma speaker Sergey Naryshkin, simply because of his inclusion in the US sanctions list.
Speaking at a meeting with Naryshkin in Moscow, the leader of the National Front party, a member of the European parliament, also believes that Russia is being unfairly “demonized” and that the campaign against the Russian political administration has been cooked up at the highest levels of the EU leadership, with the implicit support of the United States.
"I am surprised a Cold War on Russia has been declared in the European Union," she told colleagues at the meeting. "It's not in line with traditional, friendly relations or with the economic interests of our country or EU countries and harms future relations," she was cited by Interfax as saying.
“Even the threat of sanctions is a counterproductive measure. Decisions can always be reached at the negotiating table – and not by blocking talks.”
“Bans tend to only radicalize positions, and all this at a time when we are all looking for a diplomatic solution to the conflict,” Le Pen said.
She said she believes that the only viable way out of the deadlock would be a policy of Ukrainian federalization. She sees the prospect of holding referendums and federalization as a “wise and carefully weighed” decision.
Another key point for the French party leader has to do with getting all the regional leaders together to discuss the proposals; as such an issue can only be discussed jointly, according to le Pen.
She is also convinced that people have the right to “decide their own fate,” but only when the conditions for doing so are implemented. One such condition has to do with not allowing extremism to flourish, which has the power to derail negotiations between bickering powers.
Meanwhile, the city of Donetsk has since March been seeing people come out en masse in support of a federalized Ukraine. Similar large crowds were seen in Kharkov and Lugansk, with the demonstrations showing no signs of stopping, after Kiev’s recent decision by the coup-appointed authorities to strip the Russian language of its special official status in Ukraine and remove a number of pro-Russian officials from government in the areas.
Naryshkin, for his part, is of the opinion that friendly relations between France and Russia must be preserved for the sake of their peoples. The Duma speaker said that “Russian-French relations are undergoing a difficult period, especially with Russophobic and anti-Russian sentiments sprouting up in Western Europe.”
He also believes France remains one of Russia’s key partners in Europe.
BELOW...If these are the 'Statesmen' running things, isn't it more than a little embarrasing??
Posted 07 June 2014 - 10:07 PM
But I am pleased to see a politician who is not following the herd... Future history could yet prove me wrong but I too do not see Russia / Putin as the aggressor.
In my view what is happening is that the Necons / NWO people are trying to provoke Russia into a fight. They want WW3.
Posted 09 June 2014 - 12:36 PM
...YEP, it's as 'Yaeger' said starting this Topic...'The winds of Change' are upon us in Europe. And Simon, I do think 'The National Front' leader mostly agrees with you. She definitely agrees with me. See Below, from interview she's been giving in RUSSIA and Germany. This excerpt below is from 'Voice Of Russia'/'S'
Russia's actions brought back multipolarity to the world - France's Le Pen
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"It is nice to see that the world has become multipolar again after being monopolar for a number of years built around the US," said Le Pen. Russia's actions around the Ukrainian crisis returned multipolarity to the world, said the leader of the French ultra-right party "National Front" Marine Le Pen.
"It is a war of economic models: the ultra-liberal model that was imposed by the US on the rest of the world, and patriotic model built by Russia. It is nice to see that the world has become multipolar again after being monopolar for a number of years built around the US ", Le Pen said in an interview to the Russian television channel REN TV.
According to the politician, the remnants of such monopolarity forced Paris to take an anti-Russian position during the Ukrainian crisis, although hostile relations with Russia go against the interests of France. "The opposite position was chosen, because there is a strong dependence of European capitals from Washington," she explained. The leader of the "National Front" has also blamed the outcome of the crisis on the new president of Ukraine Petr Poroshenko. She hoped that he would give up on intentions of resolving the conflict through military force, which is supported by the United States and followed by the European Union.
Europe shows Russia in bad light to please Washington - Marine Le Pen
Europe bears responsibility for what’s happening in Ukraine, leader of France’s National Front party Marine Le Pen said in an interview with Germany’s Spiegel weekly on Sunday.
BELOW...If these are the 'Statesmen' running things, isn't it more than a little embarrasing??