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[Seth Haniel]

My experiences affected me for weeks afterwards with the actual fear of going to bed on a Sunday Night (after being subject to these attacks on three Sundays out of four)

- I soon realised that there is no help available and nobody to turn to - experts deny that there is anything- and that a search of the internet for help only found people who had similar and even worse experiences. (and judging by some of them I was lucky!!)

I think there is a deeper level of acceptance of the abduction experience in the population -that ten years ago - I could not have told anybody - without being ridiculed - shamed - or even locked up.

There seems to be an acceptance at a sub conscious level - in this and many more paranormal subjects - with almost daily articles on all aspects -

Any thoughts

[skylark]

Seth Haniel, on Oct 3 2006, 03:08 PM, said:

My experiences affected me for weeks afterwards with the actual fear of going to bed on a Sunday Night (after being subject to these attacks on three Sundays out of four)

- I soon realised that there is no help available and nobody to turn to - experts deny that there is anything- and that a search of the internet for help only found people who had similar and even worse experiences. (and judging by some of them I was lucky!!)

I think there is a deeper level of acceptance of the abduction experience in the population -that ten years ago - I could not have told anybody - without being ridiculed - shamed - or even locked up.

There seems to be an acceptance at a sub conscious level - in this and many more paranormal subjects - with almost daily articles on all aspects -

Any thoughts

Hey Seth,
If you were a VIP Member...you could listen to the talks/interviews of Janet Colli, Mary Rodwell, and Yvonne Smith...among others. They OFFER THE HELP, and know of PLENTY of 'Abduction Support Groups'.
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[someguy]

Seth Haniel, on Oct 3 2006, 09:08 AM, said:

My experiences affected me for weeks afterwards with the actual fear of going to bed on a Sunday Night (after being subject to these attacks on three Sundays out of four)

- I soon realised that there is no help available and nobody to turn to - experts deny that there is anything- and that a search of the internet for help only found people who had similar and even worse experiences. (and judging by some of them I was lucky!!)

I think there is a deeper level of acceptance of the abduction experience in the population -that ten years ago - I could not have told anybody - without being ridiculed - shamed - or even locked up.

There seems to be an acceptance at a sub conscious level - in this and many more paranormal subjects - with almost daily articles on all aspects -

Any thoughts

Hey Seth, I have found it helps to talk to people with a common interest in the realm of paranormal, but mostly UFO, I met a couple of people through forums like this and spoke to them on the phone and I guess it is simply nice for someone to listen without making you feel crazy. I found a person on myspace that simply offered to share her experience as I did and it was nice to know I had a place to release, I hate to sound cliche, but I guess talking about it in the right company is therapy for me. hope that helps.

[Seth Haniel]

I think the most difficult part was that even though I was quite knowledgeable on the all paranormal subjects - the reality of it is so beyond anyones comprehension - (even my own!!) - and unless someone has actually experienced it first hand they can only scratch the surface.

A few months ago I had to fight off an attempt (natural reaction?) - and the next day I thought what If I had let them take me for the experience?

[skylark]

I think

Seth Haniel, on Nov 23 2006, 08:10 AM, said:

the most difficult part was that even though I was quite knowledgeable on the all paranormal subjects - the reality of it is so beyond anyones comprehension - (even my own!!) - and unless someone has actually experienced it first hand they can only scratch the surface.

A few months ago I had to fight off an attempt (natural reaction?) - and the next day I thought what If I had let them take me for the experience?

*Seth,
Maybe you could let the folks 'in on' how you could have/can 'fight off' an Abduction Attempt?/'Sweeps'

[HELEN]

skylark, on Oct 3 2006, 03:33 PM, said:

Hey Seth,
If you were a VIP Member...you could listen to the talks/interviews of Janet Colli, Mary Rodwell, and Yvonne Smith...among others. They OFFER THE HELP, and know of PLENTY of 'Abduction Support Groups'.
Best regards and thanks for this sharing/thoughts/'Sweeps' attachment

HI SETH

YOU COULD CONTACT MARY RODWELL, WHO MAY BE ABLE TO RECOMMEND
A SUPPORT GROUP FOR YOU.
BEST WISHES, HELEN

HELEN, on Nov 23 2006, 09:57 AM, said:

HI SETH

YOU COULD CONTACT MARY RODWELL, WHO MAY BE ABLE TO RECOMMEND
A SUPPORT GROUP FOR YOU.
BEST WISHES, HELEN

P.S. LET US KNOW HOW YOU GET ON, AS I AM SURE THERE ARE OTHER
PEOPLE IN A SIMILAR SITUATION IN THE U.K WHO COULD BENEFIT
FROM SUPPORT. (HELEN)

[Seth Haniel]

"Maybe you could let the folks 'in on' how you could have/can 'fight off' an Abduction Attempt?/'Sweeps'"

I think the main defense is the knowledge and recognition of what is happening -
I think a lot of abductees are not aware at the time they are being taken and it is recognising the symptoms and then putting up a struggle - in my case calling out (OK 'Screaming and blaspheming' )
till the experience stopped - then sitting up for a while in full awareness -
I think also if you maintain an individual focus and strong Will IT MAY HELP

[HELEN]

Seth Haniel, on Nov 23 2006, 11:42 AM, said:

"Maybe you could let the folks 'in on' how you could have/can 'fight off' an Abduction Attempt?/'Sweeps'"

I think the main defense is the knowledge and recognition of what is happening -
I think a lot of abductees are not aware at the time they are being taken and it is recognising the symptoms and then putting up a struggle - in my case calling out (OK 'Screaming and blaspheming' )
till the experience stopped - then sitting up for a while in full awareness -
I think also if you maintain an individual focus and strong Will IT MAY HELP

HELLO SETH,

I AM NOT AWARE THAT I HAVE EVER BEEN ABDUCTED MYSELF - BUT I
HAVE READ OF OTHER PEOPLE BEING ABDUCTED, AND THAT THERE
WAS NO WAY TO STOP IT FROM HAPPENING?! DO YOU MEAN THAT
THE BEGINNING OF AN ABDUCTION IS THE BEST TIME TO ACTUALLY
PREVENT IT FROM OCCURING?

BEST WISHES, HELEN

[Morph]

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A few months ago I had to fight off an attempt (natural reaction?) - and the next day I thought what If I had let them take me for the experience?

If it happens again, would you consider allowing them to take you?

[someguy]

Morph, on Nov 23 2006, 12:31 PM, said:

If it happens again, would you consider allowing them to take you?

if it happens to me again, you bet I am going with bells on.

also,
I found this wonderful person named Bonnie Jean Hamilton who offered support, I had spoke to her on the phone a couple of times and it was a positive experience and I am thankful I had someone to talk to that did not make me feel like I am crazy, I recommend going to her site http://www.alienabductionhelp.com/ and having a look, and she also has a great book you can find at http://www.lulu.com/hamiltonhouse

Edited by someguy, 23 November 2006 - 05:44 PM.

[Morph]

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if it happens to me again, you bet I am going with bells on.

Your a brave guy, someguy! I don't think the bells would be a good idea though..

I have to admit, if something like that happend to me, I wouldn't know what to do.

I'll have a search through your links tomorrow, its getting a bit late and I have to be up early in the morning.

[Seth Haniel]

Helen
In my experiences the start of the abduction is actually a very 'spiritual' type experience if you have read books on Astral Projection they are very similar - so the body has been actually unconsciously willing to go along with the experience (till it was too late!!!) It is over the last 15 years that I have recognised the feeling and straight away tried to fight it - in some way - I think bringing ones self to full awareness is half the battle.
So by fighting from the beginning the abducters give up and go look for an easier target??

Morph
About being allowed to be abducted next time? I have thought about it after the last experience (and as I am still here ) if they have indeed in the past succeeded in taking me, I am always brought back - so if I recognise the feeling and am able to 'GO' with full remembrance of the experience (like someguy) I'd go.
But and a big BUT only if it 'felt right'.
Bring it on?!!

[Morph]

Iv'e been reading a lot on alien abductions lately, and have come to the conclusion that the these extraordinary events are happening. The big question is, what is there prupose and what are they gaining from these abductions?

Like you said, Seth. If in the past they have been successful in abducting you, you have always been returned. Does that account for every abduction?

[Seth Haniel]

http://www.earthbounddog.com/

In 2004 in the United kingdom over 210,000 people went missing
Thousands of people go missing each year and often the signs that they are depressed or unhappy never show.
One morning they get up and just decide to go, not understanding the hurt they leave behind.
What percentage could be however small related to the abduction scenario ??!!!

[someguy]

Morph, on Nov 24 2006, 08:51 AM, said:

Iv'e been reading a lot on alien abductions lately, and have come to the conclusion that the these extraordinary events are happening. The big question is, what is there prupose and what are they gaining from these abductions?

Like you said, Seth. If in the past they have been successful in abducting you, you have always been returned. Does that account for every abduction?

that is a cool website!

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so if I recognise the feeling and am able to 'GO' with full remembrance of the experience (like someguy) I'd go.

it took about a good 5 or so years for cloudy memories and dreams, and in 2005 when I started "researching" I have lost the fear, I was afraid to go to sleep for years to the point of shaking, I was drinking myself to sleep until my body did not allow it anymore. now I smoke weed to sleep, to shut my mind up. but I must add, I agree with you seth, that it must "feel right" for me to go, but I must admit, I look forward to something happening, even if I get scared, I came back alive once already, I think for those who did not get abducted, the fear is programmed by society, that evil association, in my opinion of course.

[Seth Haniel]

We are all pre-programmed by the government through news and media/film often in the early films like ET / close encounters etc, they showed aliens as a friendly type (when thing were probably going the governments way in their dealings with visitors) - but then things changes and they are now shown as more hostile - Independance Day / mars attacks / MIB etc

So planting subconscious doubts/feelings in the ethos!!


(more abduction link pages http://www.earthboun...-abduction.html )

Edited by Seth Haniel, 25 November 2006 - 12:52 PM.

[skylark]

Seth Haniel, on Nov 25 2006, 12:49 PM, said:

We are all pre-programmed by the government through news and media/film often in the early films like ET / close encounters etc, they showed aliens as a friendly type (when thing were probably going the governments way in their dealings with visitors) - but then things changes and they are now shown as more hostile - Independance Day / mars attacks / MIB etc

So planting subconscious doubts/feelings in the ethos!!
(more abduction link pages http://www.earthboun...-abduction.html )

*If that's not 'bad' enough Seth...we also have Earth Government 'Black Opts'....SIMULATING/COPYING 'Alien/ET' Abduction on world citizens. These are intended to REALLY 'spook' people out, and cause enmity towards ET's in general. All in preparation for.............../'Sweep'

[someguy]

skylark, on Nov 25 2006, 09:25 AM, said:

*If that's not 'bad' enough Seth...we also have Earth Government 'Black Opts'....SIMULATING/COPYING 'Alien/ET' Abduction on world citizens. These are intended to REALLY 'spook' people out, and cause enmity towards ET's in general. All in preparation for.............../'Sweep'

I agree with you both (skylark and seth) I think it is another form of propaganda, they want to keep control and attempt to take peace away from the mass landing that is coming, it wont work though, cause the mass landing people will speak to the world before they land, and reveal the earth secrets, I have been predicting this for a while, hope I am right.

[Seth Haniel]

New tactic in the abduction scenario - !!!!???
twice in the last fortnight - Friday night being the latest - I have had dreams with the 'abduction feelings' within -
Wether this is a new way that they are using - actually using the dream state for the abduction - instead of the period while the brain is being disconected from the body - and the awarness is still there 'for fighting back?'
Will have to keep watch

[HELEN]

Hello Seth,

Do you think that you have been abducted twice in the last fortnight,
or were they memories of previous abductions, or do you feel that
they are false/negative, i.e. MILABS?

Regards, Helen