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[simple simon]

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Date: 15/01/2009 07:01:57
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Subject: LIFE ON MARS

LIFE ON MARS

ALIEN microbes living just below the Martian soil are responsible for a haze of methane around the Red Planet, Nasa scientists believe.

The gas, belched in vast quantities in our world by cows, was detected by orbiting spacecraft and from Earth using giant telescopes.

Nasa are today expected to confirm its presence during a briefing at their Washington HQ.

And the find is seen as exciting new evidence that Martian microbes are still alive today.

Some scientists reckon methane is also produced by volcanic processes. But there are NO known active volcanoes on Mars.

Furthermore, Nasa has found the gas in the same regions as clouds of water vapour, the vital "drink" needed to support life.

Experts speculate that the methane is being emitted as a waste product by organisms called methanogens living in water beneath underground ice.

And they would have to be alive today because the methane would otherwise have been lost from the Martian atmosphere.

John Murray — a member of the Mars Express European space probe team — believes the mini-Martians may be in a form of suspended animation and could even be REVIVED.

He has found overwhelming evidence of a vast frozen ocean beneath the dust near the Martian equator where simple life could have thrived as microbes.

Today's briefing will feature a star panel of Mars experts headed by Michael Meyer, chief scientist for Nasa's Mars programme.

UK Mars expert Professor Colin Pillinger believes the methane can only point to the presence of life on the planet.

His ill-fated Beagle 2 probe was carrying a laboratory that would have looked directly for such signs of life when it crashed on Christmas Day 2003.

Prof Pillinger told The Sun last night: "Methane is a product of biology. For methane to be in Mars' atmosphere, there has to be a replenishable source.

"The most obvious source of methane is organisms. So if you find methane in an atmosphere, you can suspect there is life.

"It's not proof, but it makes it worth a much closer look."

Nasa's findings confirm studies by Europe's Mars Express probe, which has been orbiting the planet for five years and also reported signs of methane in 2004.

Britain's top space expert Nick Pope last night hailed the new evidence of life as "the most important discovery of all time".

He said: "What could be more profound than to know it's not just us out there?

"We've really only scratched the surface — it's an absolute certainty that there is life out there and we are not alone.

"If there is life on Mars then the logical conclusion is that there must be life elsewhere too.

"If it's happened here on Earth, then why shouldn't it happen anywhere? The implication is this is a universal law.

"Mars is very similar to Earth. It's about the same size, it's a rocky inner planet.

"Most scientists believe it probably has liquid water which is almost universally agreed as the pre-requisite for life. I am certain there is other life in the Universe and, most likely, intelligent life."

The Red Planet has gripped the public imagination for more than a century as a possible home for aliens.

But life could not survive on its surface because, unlike the Earth, Mars has no magnetic shield to protect it against deadly sun radiation.

The planet resembles our own in many ways. It is made of rock, it has an atmosphere and weather systems.

Although much smaller with a diameter of around 4,222 miles, Mars' day is just 40 minutes longer than ours and its tilted axis gives it seasons.

Water has been found in the form of buried ice and scientists believe that two billion years ago, Mars was covered with liquid oceans.

Proof that water is still on Mars came in 2007 when Mars Express used ground-piercing radar to study the region around the planet's South Pole.

Nasa's latest lander Phoenix dug up chunks of Martian ice last year. It swiftly evaporated into the thin atmosphere.

Nasa have controversially hit the headlines before for claiming evidence for Martians.

In 1996, they said they had discovered fossilized organisms in a meteorite from the planet.

But other scientists were skeptical.

Today's conference will be broadcast live online by NASA TV (www.nasa.gov/ntv) at 7pm.

FACTS ABOUT MARS

 MARS is the fourth planet from the sun after the Earth.

 DESPITE having a similar terrain — made up of mountains, deserts and polar icecaps — the Red Planet has virtually no water

 THE planet's reddish appearance is due to iron oxide.

 WITH a surface area of 90million square miles, Mars is less than a third the size of our planet, which is 317million square miles

 EARTH is 93million miles away from the sun, 135million miles closer than Mars.

 FOR that reason, any inhabitants on the Red Planet will have to put up with average temperatures of -46°C. We earthlings usually bask in an average temperature of 14°C.

 THE atmosphere on Mars is very different from ours — 95 per cent of the air is carbon dioxide, with the Earth's being 78 per cent nitrogen and 21 per cent oxygen.

 MARS does outdo us when it comes to satellites. It has two against our one — the moon.

[skylark]

simple simon, on Jan 15 2009, 09:21 AM, said:

Hello everyone,

This just arrived in my email inbox.

Sharing for your interest and discernment.

Simon
-------Original Message-------

From:
Date: 15/01/2009 07:01:57
To:
Subject: LIFE ON MARS

LIFE ON MARS

ALIEN microbes living just below the Martian soil are responsible for a haze of methane around the Red Planet, Nasa scientists believe.

The gas, belched in vast quantities in our world by cows, was detected by orbiting spacecraft and from Earth using giant telescopes.

Nasa are today expected to confirm its presence during a briefing at their Washington HQ.

And the find is seen as exciting new evidence that Martian microbes are still alive today.

Some scientists reckon methane is also produced by volcanic processes. But there are NO known active volcanoes on Mars.

Furthermore, Nasa has found the gas in the same regions as clouds of water vapour, the vital "drink" needed to support life.

Experts speculate that the methane is being emitted as a waste product by organisms called methanogens living in water beneath underground ice.

And they would have to be alive today because the methane would otherwise have been lost from the Martian atmosphere.

John Murray — a member of the Mars Express European space probe team — believes the mini-Martians may be in a form of suspended animation and could even be REVIVED.

He has found overwhelming evidence of a vast frozen ocean beneath the dust near the Martian equator where simple life could have thrived as microbes.

Today's briefing will feature a star panel of Mars experts headed by Michael Meyer, chief scientist for Nasa's Mars programme.

UK Mars expert Professor Colin Pillinger believes the methane can only point to the presence of life on the planet.

His ill-fated Beagle 2 probe was carrying a laboratory that would have looked directly for such signs of life when it crashed on Christmas Day 2003.

Prof Pillinger told The Sun last night: "Methane is a product of biology. For methane to be in Mars' atmosphere, there has to be a replenishable source.

"The most obvious source of methane is organisms. So if you find methane in an atmosphere, you can suspect there is life.

"It's not proof, but it makes it worth a much closer look."

Nasa's findings confirm studies by Europe's Mars Express probe, which has been orbiting the planet for five years and also reported signs of methane in 2004.

Britain's top space expert Nick Pope last night hailed the new evidence of life as "the most important discovery of all time".

He said: "What could be more profound than to know it's not just us out there?

"We've really only scratched the surface — it's an absolute certainty that there is life out there and we are not alone.

"If there is life on Mars then the logical conclusion is that there must be life elsewhere too.

"If it's happened here on Earth, then why shouldn't it happen anywhere? The implication is this is a universal law.

"Mars is very similar to Earth. It's about the same size, it's a rocky inner planet.

"Most scientists believe it probably has liquid water which is almost universally agreed as the pre-requisite for life. I am certain there is other life in the Universe and, most likely, intelligent life."

The Red Planet has gripped the public imagination for more than a century as a possible home for aliens.

But life could not survive on its surface because, unlike the Earth, Mars has no magnetic shield to protect it against deadly sun radiation.

The planet resembles our own in many ways. It is made of rock, it has an atmosphere and weather systems.

Although much smaller with a diameter of around 4,222 miles, Mars' day is just 40 minutes longer than ours and its tilted axis gives it seasons.

Water has been found in the form of buried ice and scientists believe that two billion years ago, Mars was covered with liquid oceans.

Proof that water is still on Mars came in 2007 when Mars Express used ground-piercing radar to study the region around the planet's South Pole.

Nasa's latest lander Phoenix dug up chunks of Martian ice last year. It swiftly evaporated into the thin atmosphere.

Nasa have controversially hit the headlines before for claiming evidence for Martians.

In 1996, they said they had discovered fossilized organisms in a meteorite from the planet.

But other scientists were skeptical.

Today's conference will be broadcast live online by NASA TV (www.nasa.gov/ntv) at 7pm.

FACTS ABOUT MARS

 MARS is the fourth planet from the sun after the Earth.

 DESPITE having a similar terrain — made up of mountains, deserts and polar icecaps — the Red Planet has virtually no water

 THE planet's reddish appearance is due to iron oxide.

 WITH a surface area of 90million square miles, Mars is less than a third the size of our planet, which is 317million square miles

 EARTH is 93million miles away from the sun, 135million miles closer than Mars.

 FOR that reason, any inhabitants on the Red Planet will have to put up with average temperatures of -46°C. We earthlings usually bask in an average temperature of 14°C.

 THE atmosphere on Mars is very different from ours — 95 per cent of the air is carbon dioxide, with the Earth's being 78 per cent nitrogen and 21 per cent oxygen.

 MARS does outdo us when it comes to satellites. It has two against our one — the moon.

*AND Simon/All...more than that, which they 'are allowed' to tell us. TAH/'S'

Scientists Find Evidence of Livable Areas on Mars

-and those are 'only' on the surface-

Edited/Summarized by/'Sweeps'

FOUND…Evidence of a key mineral on Mars has been found at several locations on the planet's surface, suggesting that any microbial life that might have been there back when the planet was wetter could have lived comfortably.

The findings offer up MAN INTERESTING new sites for future missions to probe.


**PHOTO BELOW SHOWS-'only' 1 OF THE LIFE AREAS ON 'THE RED PLANET'


Bright green areas in this image of the Martian surface show carbonate deposits…which indicate the Red Planet may once have been suitable for life.

 MARS_LIFE_BEARING_AREAS_PHOTO.jpg   64.47K   12 downloads

Observations made by NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO), has just completed its primary mission and started a second two-year shift, found evidence of carbonates, which don't survive in conditions hostile to life, indicating that not all of the planet's ancient watery environments were as harsh as previously thought.

The findings are detailed in a study in the Dec. 19 issue of the journal Science… and were presented Thursday at the annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco.

[captain]

skylark, on Jan 15 2009, 02:25 PM, said:

*AND Simon/All...more than that, which they 'are allowed' to tell us. TAH/'S'

Scientists Find Evidence of Livable Areas on Mars

-and those are 'only' on the surface-

Edited/Summarized by/'Sweeps'

FOUND…Evidence of a key mineral on Mars has been found at several locations on the planet's surface, suggesting that any microbial life that might have been there back when the planet was wetter could have lived comfortably.

The findings offer up MAN INTERESTING new sites for future missions to probe.


**PHOTO BELOW SHOWS-'only' 1 OF THE LIFE AREAS ON 'THE RED PLANET'


Bright green areas in this image of the Martian surface show carbonate deposits…which indicate the Red Planet may once have been suitable for life.

MARS_LIF...AS_PHOTO.jpg

Observations made by NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO), has just completed its primary mission and started a second two-year shift, found evidence of carbonates, which don't survive in conditions hostile to life, indicating that not all of the planet's ancient watery environments were as harsh as previously thought.

The findings are detailed in a study in the Dec. 19 issue of the journal Science… and were presented Thursday at the annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco.

-Understand people that 'NASA' is a front for the 'BLACK OPS'-they have LIED to us consistently. We KNOW-that some SURFACE TEMPERATURES on Mars have been recorded as high or higer as 20-32 degrees 'F'. THAT'S RIGHT!! We also know of SURFACE SMALL LAKES observed/photographed by the European Space Agency Orbiter...and many other things/Features on the Planet, INCLUDING actual 'flights' of UFO's in the planets skies. This is merely 'Scratching the surface'. No Pun intended-Captain

[skylark]

captain, on Jan 15 2009, 03:53 PM, said:

-Understand people that 'NASA' is a front for the 'BLACK OPS'-they have LIED to us consistently. We KNOW-that some SURFACE TEMPERATURES on Mars have been recorded as high or higer as 20-32 degrees 'F'. THAT'S RIGHT!! We also know of SURFACE SMALL LAKES observed/photographed by the European Space Agency Orbiter...and many other things/Features on the Planet, INCLUDING actual 'flights' of UFO's in the planets skies. This is merely 'Scratching the surface'. No Pun intended-Captain

*Yes 'Cap' and All...quite correct,
I'm putting in another (BBC) Link below...to put folks in the 'Scientifically allowed' Perspective according to 'OFFICIAL' sources. Think better than this!/'S'

*So...CLICK below on the 'My Website' Link for the BBC 'take' & videos:

Visit My Website

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
...I would ask that you all keep in mind:
**This 'Life' answer for MARS has been known...by many Project workers for years and decades. 'They' just know NOW-at NASA...that they are being found out...with all their 'dirty' little kept secrets. Trouble is they are no longer able to 'Contain' the leaks as they used to/'S'

[captain]

skylark, on Jan 16 2009, 02:01 AM, said:

*Yes 'Cap' and All...quite correct,
I'm putting in another (BBC) Link below...to put folks in the 'Scientifically allowed' Perspective according to 'OFFICIAL' sources. Think better than this!/'S'

*So...CLICK below on the 'My Website' Link for the BBC 'take' & videos:

Visit My Website

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
...I would ask that you all keep in mind:
**This 'Life' answer for MARS has been known...by many Project workers for years and decades. 'They' just know NOW-at NASA...that they are being found out...with all their 'dirty' little kept secrets. Trouble is they are no longer able to 'Contain' the leaks as they used to/'S'

-It's AMAZING & 'Troubling' at the same time you know. Where's the BIGGY Headlines/reflections on this MARS LIFE Revelation? And, of course, AGAIN-where's BIG WORLD MEDIA on this?

How many people/members even have HIT on this Topic, commented on it, or even investigated it on their own? Lots of Questions huh? One 'MUST' think that people have INDEED become 'Sheeple'-and pay only homage and interest to the 'Programming'/Social Engineering controls put on them. This Generation, in particular, is unschooled/disaffected/and without a wit of plan or purpose. They've become placaded by Hedonistic & in some kind of socially induced delusional promised offerings by a 'Plastic Society'.

There seems to be 'no more rebels', except those of 'Gimme' hardened Criminals/socio-paths. There are NO 'causes', as if they've all been lulled into a casual 'acceptance' of the status quo-what ever that means to them.
Freedom, fighting for it, recognizing it-has all gone. One of YOUR Topics-'Creating a world of Zombies' seems very apt.

This is the True 'Lost/Souless Generation'-never been in a fight, never been seen challenging the Reality they are brought up in. Instant gratification/things handed to them/and ANGRY if they are required to submit to needs of others or examine a History which they weren't a part of.

I could go on-but the salient FACT is, they react 'robotically'-actually following/believing that 'their generation' is 'the crown of creation'. AND-that's ALL they have to do, reap the rewards of 'being' without ANY substance or struggle. Finally-they need a 'slap in the face'or a required 2-3 years in the armed forces.

Maybe the next generation will take up the guantlet and push it in their faces. Too late for them-Captain

[skylark]

captain, on Jan 17 2009, 02:22 AM, said:

-It's AMAZING & 'Troubling' at the same time you know. Where's the BIGGY Headlines/reflections on this MARS LIFE Revelation? And, of course, AGAIN-where's BIG WORLD MEDIA on this?

How many people/members even have HIT on this Topic, commented on it, or even investigated it on their own? Lots of Questions huh? One 'MUST' think that people have INDEED become 'Sheeple'-and pay only homage and interest to the 'Programming'/Social Engineering controls put on them. This Generation, in particular, is unschooled/disaffected/and without a wit of plan or purpose. They've become placaded by Hedonistic & in some kind of socially induced delusional promised offerings by a 'Plastic Society'.

There seems to be 'no more rebels', except those of 'Gimme' hardened Criminals/socio-paths. There are NO 'causes', as if they've all been lulled into a casual 'acceptance' of the status quo-what ever that means to them.
Freedom, fighting for it, recognizing it-has all gone. One of YOUR Topics-'Creating a world of Zombies' seems very apt.

This is the True 'Lost/Souless Generation'-never been in a fight, never been seen challenging the Reality they are brought up in. Instant gratification/things handed to them/and ANGRY if they are required to submit to needs of others or examine a History which they weren't a part of.

I could go on-but the salient FACT is, they react 'robotically'-actually following/believing that 'their generation' is 'the crown of creation'. AND-that's ALL they have to do, reap the rewards of 'being' without ANY substance or struggle. Finally-they need a 'slap in the face'or a required 2-3 years in the armed forces.

Maybe the next generation will take up the guantlet and push it in their faces. Too late for them-Captain

*Well 'Cap',
...Get your Drift. This TOPIC/news release/et al...hasn't got 'The Press'/SPLASH it deserves alright, even from 'Internet' groups. Think folks are 'Just sitting back' WAITING for the next Disclaimer or 'Untruth' to emerge. They must be 'pretty much dulled or hands thrown up' with confusion and now taking everthing with a nonchalance.
Don't get 'Your knickers in too much of a twist', there are some damned good 'this generation people'...trying to lift the curtain on 'Reality' views. Looking around at the whole scope of things confronting 'Your Lost Generation'...it is though little wonder, that 'They' are both overwhelmed & Dumbed Down. Not being an apologist...just buoying up 'HOPE'. Best/'S'

[simple simon]

Obama's inauguration filled the airways, with even economic matters being relegated to second fiddle.

But I often wondered why there was a TV 'cops and robbers' series based on a man who had time travelled back to the 1970's that was known as 'Life on Mars'.

Never watched it myself, but the title struck me as kinda odd - with subliminal undertones.

Simon

[captain]

simple simon, on Jan 21 2009, 09:46 AM, said:

Obama's inauguration filled the airways, with even economic matters being relegated to second fiddle.

But I often wondered why there was a TV 'cops and robbers' series based on a man who had time travelled back to the 1970's that was known as 'Life on Mars'.

Never watched it myself, but the title struck me as kinda odd - with subliminal undertones.

Simon

-Hi Simon,
-Sorry, don't get your reference. Did you see something recently-during the inauguration about the 70's 'Life On Mars' series? Just can't equate the Inauguration with what you're saying here. AND, maybe explain your 'subliminal' undertones.
-ANYWAY, I wouldn't have anything 'strike me' during the 'Crowning' of Obama-since I WOULDN'T watch it-Captain

[simple simon]

captain, on Jan 22 2009, 04:30 PM, said:

-Hi Simon,
-Sorry, don't get your reference. Did you see something recently-during the inauguration about the 70's 'Life On Mars' series? Just can't equate the Inauguration with what you're saying here. AND, maybe explain your 'subliminal' undertones.
-ANYWAY, I wouldn't have anything 'strike me' during the 'Crowning' of Obama-since I WOULDN'T watch it-Captain

Hi Captain.

News about the recent Martian discoveries was largely relegated to being of little importance as the media was too preoccupied with Obama and the economic situation (including, here in Britain, the second banking bail-out). Maybe this was planned?

Yes the info with which I started this thread (and all the other discoveries about Mars) really should have been headline news, as it is of great significance. But it does seem that at the present time such info is only for 'those with eyes to see'.

I made the reference to the TV series 'life on Mars' because it struck me as a seriously odd title for a fictional police drama series - and I must wonder if therefore the title (of this TV series) was used as a way of getting the masses to accept that there really is life on Mars but in a non-threatening way. Doing things this way could almost be said to be subliminal - the hidden message in something very different.

As for the time travelling and 1973 connection, as yet I have not worked them out, but I bet that this was not a randomly chosen year. Maybe that is when a human colony was set up there??? When the US was first able to travel there using its black budget spaceships??? Just ideas.

Hope this helps

Simon

ps more info on the 'Life On Mars' TV series can be found here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_on_Mars_(TV_series)

pps, roll on telepathy - I often find that this happens, its almost as if I half expect people to know what I mean without actually speaking the words.

Edited by captain, 22 January 2009 - 11:19 PM.

[captain]

simple simon, on Jan 22 2009, 06:10 PM, said:

Hi Captain.

News about the recent Martian discoveries was largely relegated to being of little importance as the media was too preoccupied with Obama and the economic situation (including, here in Britain, the second banking bail-out). Maybe this was planned?

Yes the info with which I started this thread (and all the other discoveries about Mars) really should have been headline news, as it is of great significance. But it does seem that at the present time such info is only for 'those with eyes to see'.

I made the reference to the TV series 'life on Mars' because it struck me as a seriously odd title for a fictional police drama series - and I must wonder if therefore the title (of this TV series) was used as a way of getting the masses to accept that there really is life on Mars but in a non-threatening way. Doing things this way could almost be said to be subliminal - the hidden message in something very different.

As for the time travelling and 1973 connection, as yet I have not worked them out, but I bet that this was not a randomly chosen year. Maybe that is when a human colony was set up there??? When the US was first able to travel there using its black budget spaceships??? Just ideas.

Hope this helps

Simon

ps more info on the 'Life On Mars' TV series can be found here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_on_Mars_(TV_series)

pps, roll on telepathy - I often find that this happens, its almost as if I half expect people to know what I mean without actually speaking the words.

-Well Simon and All,
-It had all suddenly been made apparent to my sub-Conscience, without even having to think about it. YEP-it had 'Popped up from some subliminal region Simon, and there it was as 'Crystal'. Clear as a bell. So you see your expectations of 'people knowing what you mean' does have 'Value'. Good on you and a beig thanks for defining all that anyway-Captain