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[skylark]

WHY I CARRY A GUN…AND GUN HISTORIES

-WISE WORDS AND HISTORICAL REASONS FOR GUNS-

*'Sweeps' NOTE 3:
…I recommend watching each video selection…as seen on the right side of the video playing below. 'Liberty Tube' appears to be an outstanding/enlightening video producer. For ALL you good folks in Europe…find out 'just what' having Guns/Ammo guaranteed by a 'Constitutional Amendment' MEANS…and why it's so damned important to 'Freedom'. Thanks/'S'

*CLICK below on the 'My Website' Link for all these great videos/freedom:

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*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…As you avid, and thus more discerning, folks know (those who can still actually Read/or take the time to)…we've been 'PLUGGING' for people to 'Get Guns/Keep them, & get Ammo. For those hold outs/conscientious objectors/& just plain 'sissies'…maybe, just maybe, after reading the prose and Historical content below you just might want to be able to PROTECT/DEFEND yourselves and your families. If not…we are more lost than imagined. Fell free, as always, 'MEMBERS' to voice you opinions/comments here. Need your input and weight on this subject. Time to evaluate/re-evaluate both your Values and the times we are now in. Thanks/'S'

*'Sweeps' NOTE 2:
...Mexican guns NOT coming from the U.S.A…but illegally from Central/South America and abroad from international 'smuggling'. Glenn Beck & Wayne LaPierre-NRA-discuss gun control & the 2nd Amendment. Watch the Video below and get the answers, then read all the messages/'ODE' in this Topic. Thanks/'S'

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PEOPLE ASK WHY?
Why I Carry a Gun

My old grandpa said to me son, 'there
comes a time in every man's life
when he stops 'bustin' knuckles and
starts 'bustin' caps and usually it's
when he becomes too old to take an ass whoopin'.

I don't carry a gun to kill people.
I carry a gun to keep from being killed.

I don't carry a gun to scare people.
I carry a gun because sometimes this
world can be a scary place.

I don't carry a gun because I'm paranoid.
I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world.

I don't carry a gun because I'm evil.
I carry a gun because I have lived
long enough to see the evil in the world.

I don't carry a gun because I hate the government.
I carry a gun because I understand
the limitations of government.
I don't carry a gun because I'm angry.
I carry a gun so that I don't have to
spend the rest of my life hating
myself for failing to be prepared.
I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone.

I carry a gun because I want to die
at a ripe old age in my bed, and
not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.

I don't carry a gun because I'm a cowboy.
I carry a gun because, when I die and
go to heaven, I want to be a cowboy.

I don't carry a gun to make me feel like a man.
I carry a gun because men know how to
take care of themselves and the ones they love.

I don't carry a gun because I feel inadequate.
I carry a gun because unarmed and
facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.

I don't carry a gun because I love it.
I carry a gun because I love life and
the people who make it meaningful to me.

Police Protection is an oxymoron. Free
citizens must protect themselves.
Police do not protect you from crime,
they usually just investigate the
crime after it happens and then call
someone in to clean up the mess.

Personally, I carry a gun because I'm
too young to die and too old to
take an ass whoopin'.

A LITTLE GUN HISTORY:

In 1929, the Soviet Union established
gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to
defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------

In 1911, Turkey established gun
control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend
themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------

Germany established gun control in
1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who
were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------

China established gun control in 1935.
From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend
themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
------------------------------

Guatemala established gun control in
1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend
themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
---- ------------- -------------

Uganda established gun control in
1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend
themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------

Cambodia established gun control in
1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend
themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
-----------------------------

Defenseless people rounded up and
exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
------------------------------

It has now been 12 months since gun
owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381
personal firearms to be destroyed by their own Government, a program
costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first
year results are now in:

List of 7 items:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent.

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent.

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up
44 percent…yes 44 percent!

In the state of Victoria alone,
homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the
law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and
criminals still possess their guns!

While figures over the previous 25
years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this
has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals
now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic
increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian
politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased,
after such monumental effort, and expense was expended in successfully
ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the
other historical facts above prove it.

You won't see this data on the US or Irish
evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens
save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect
only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note my fellow Irishmen/women/Americans, before it's too late!

The next time someone talks in favor of gun control-controlling our guns,
please remind them of this history lesson.

With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without
them, we are 'subjects'.

During WWII the Japanese decided not
to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!

If you value your freedom, please
spread this anti-gun control message to all of your friends.

The purpose of fighting is to win.
There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important
than the shield, and skill is more important than either. The final
weapon is the brain…All else is supplemental.



SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A
GUN! SWITZERLAND 'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.
SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED
COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!



IT'S A NO BRAINER! DON'T LET YOUR
GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.

[captain]

skylark, on Mar 13 2009, 02:09 PM, said:

WHY I CARRY A GUN…AND GUN HISTORIES

-WISE WORDS AND HISTORICAL REASONS FOR GUNS-

*'Sweeps' NOTE:…As you avid, and thus more discerning, folks know (those who can still actually Read/or take the time to)…we've been 'PLUGGING' for people to 'Get Guns/Keep them, & get Ammo. For those hold outs/conscientious objectors/& just plain 'sissies'…maybe, just maybe, after reading the prose and Historical content below you just might want to be able to PROTECT/DEFEND yourselves and your families. If not…we are more lost than imagined. Fell free, as always, 'MEMBERS' to voice you opinions/comments here. Need your input and weight on this subject. Time to evaluate/re-evaluate both your Values and the times we are now in. Thanks/'S'

PEOPLE ASK WHY?
Why I Carry a Gun

My old grandpa said to me son, 'there
comes a time in every man's life
when he stops 'bustin' knuckles and
starts 'bustin' caps and usually it's
when he becomes too old to take an ass whoopin'.

I don't carry a gun to kill people.
I carry a gun to keep from being killed.

I don't carry a gun to scare people.
I carry a gun because sometimes this
world can be a scary place.

I don't carry a gun because I'm paranoid.
I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world.

I don't carry a gun because I'm evil.
I carry a gun because I have lived
long enough to see the evil in the world.

I don't carry a gun because I hate the government.
I carry a gun because I understand
the limitations of government.
I don't carry a gun because I'm angry.
I carry a gun so that I don't have to
spend the rest of my life hating
myself for failing to be prepared.
I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone.

I carry a gun because I want to die
at a ripe old age in my bed, and
not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.

I don't carry a gun because I'm a cowboy.
I carry a gun because, when I die and
go to heaven, I want to be a cowboy.

I don't carry a gun to make me feel like a man.
I carry a gun because men know how to
take care of themselves and the ones they love.

I don't carry a gun because I feel inadequate.
I carry a gun because unarmed and
facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.

I don't carry a gun because I love it.
I carry a gun because I love life and
the people who make it meaningful to me.

Police Protection is an oxymoron. Free
citizens must protect themselves.
Police do not protect you from crime,
they usually just investigate the
crime after it happens and then call
someone in to clean up the mess.

Personally, I carry a gun because I'm
too young to die and too old to
take an ass whoopin'.

A LITTLE GUN HISTORY:

In 1929, the Soviet Union established
gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to
defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------

In 1911, Turkey established gun
control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend
themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------

Germany established gun control in
1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who
were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------

China established gun control in 1935.
From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend
themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
------------------------------

Guatemala established gun control in
1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend
themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
---- ------------- -------------

Uganda established gun control in
1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend
themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------

Cambodia established gun control in
1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend
themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
-----------------------------

Defenseless people rounded up and
exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
------------------------------

It has now been 12 months since gun
owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381
personal firearms to be destroyed by their own Government, a program
costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first
year results are now in:

List of 7 items:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent.

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent.

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up
44 percent…yes 44 percent!

In the state of Victoria alone,
homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the
law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and
criminals still possess their guns!

While figures over the previous 25
years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this
has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals
now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic
increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian
politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased,
after such monumental effort, and expense was expended in successfully
ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the
other historical facts above prove it.

You won't see this data on the US or Irish
evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens
save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect
only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note my fellow Irishmen/women/Americans, before it's too late!

The next time someone talks in favor of gun control-controlling our guns,
please remind them of this history lesson.

With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without
them, we are 'subjects'.

During WWII the Japanese decided not
to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!

If you value your freedom, please
spread this anti-gun control message to all of your friends.

The purpose of fighting is to win.
There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important
than the shield, and skill is more important than either. The final
weapon is the brain…All else is supplemental.



SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A
GUN! SWITZERLAND 'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.
SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED
COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!



IT'S A NO BRAINER! DON'T LET YOUR
GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.

-Hi Sweeps AND all,
-Some of the 'States' are 'putting it to' the Federal Government on their GUN CONTROL SCHEMES/COMING LAWS. The State Of Montana basically just told the FED to 'Shove it', we're not abiding and won't allow your Gun Control Legislation in our State. MANY 'STATES' are following this model of resisting Federal intervention in their States-Captain

*CLICK on the 'My Website' link below for the 'MONTANA STORY'-'Ousting the Federal Regulations:

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[skylark]

captain, on Mar 14 2009, 02:05 PM, said:

-Hi Sweeps AND all,
-Some of the 'States' are 'putting it to' the Federal Government on their GUN CONTROL SCHEMES/COMING LAWS. The State Of Montana basically just told the FED to 'Shove it', we're not abiding and won't allow your Gun Control Legislation in our State. MANY 'STATES' are following this model of resisting Federal intervention in their States-Captain

*CLICK on the 'My Website' link below for the 'MONTANA STORY'-'Ousting the Federal Regulations:

Visit My Website

*Yep Captain & All,
...Lots of GOOD States/concerned Citizens out there.
Here's the COMING problem and its Legislation. We have to FIGHT THIS...in the streets/everywhere. Read below/'S'

It has already started...
Ammunition Accountability Legislation

Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take your guns? Well, it
seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with taking your
ammo!

The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana)
requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a data base of
all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers.
Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is
coded.

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011.
(Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every
round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $1.00or more, a brick
of 22's will go up enormously!

If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!

This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama, Arizona,
California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland,
Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island,
South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.

[captain]

skylark, on Mar 15 2009, 09:19 AM, said:

*Yep Captain & All,
...Lots of GOOD States/concerned Citizens out there.
Here's the COMING problem and its Legislation. We have to FIGHT THIS...in the streets/everywhere. Read below/'S'

It has already started...
Ammunition Accountability Legislation

Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take your guns? Well, it
seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with taking your
ammo!

The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana)
requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a data base of
all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers.
Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is
coded.

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011.
(Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every
round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $1.00or more, a brick
of 22's will go up enormously!

If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!

This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama, Arizona,
California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland,
Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island,
South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.

-Hi All,

-Hope this below-might offer a simplified ‘summing up’ for those trying to come to terms with the NEED to ‘keep and bare arms’. Thanks-Captain

Never forget, even for an instant, that the one and only reason anybody has for taking your gun away is to make you weaker than he is, so he can do something to you that you wouldn't allow him to do if you were equipped to prevent it. This goes for burglars, muggers, and rapists, and even more so for policemen, bureaucrats, and politicians.

[skylark]

captain, on Mar 15 2009, 07:19 PM, said:

-Hi All,

-Hope this below-might offer a simplified 'summing up' for those trying to come to terms with the NEED to 'keep and bare arms'. Thanks-Captain

Never forget, even for an instant, that the one and only reason anybody has for taking your gun away is to make you weaker than he is, so he can do something to you that you wouldn't allow him to do if you were equipped to prevent it. This goes for burglars, muggers, and rapists, and even more so for policemen, bureaucrats, and politicians.

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
...I offer this VIDEO commentary, from a woman to a Congressional Committee. She's 'Been there' without a Gun when one was truly needed. 'What's the 2nd Amendment for'? She tells 'THEM'...and Right On. Put yourselves in her place...and what she went through. Click on the 'My Website' video below. Thanks/'S'

Visit My Website

[captain]

skylark, on Mar 16 2009, 04:15 PM, said:

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
...I offer this VIDEO commentary, from a woman to a Congressional Committee. She's 'Been there' without a Gun when one was truly needed. 'What's the 2nd Amendment for'? She tells 'THEM'...and Right On. Put yourselves in her place...and what she went through. Click on the 'My Website' video below. Thanks/'S'

Visit My Website

Feds undercut civilian supply of ammunition

-UPDATE on 'OUR FIGHT' to keep and bare arms

A recent government policy change has taken a bite out of the nation's already stressed ammunition supply, leaving arms dealers scrambling to find ammo for private gun owners.

*CLICK below on the 'My Website' link for this madding policy story

Visit My Website

-ARM and prepare yourselves folks-Captain

[skylark]

captain, on Mar 18 2009, 05:09 PM, said:

Feds undercut civilian supply of ammunition

-UPDATE on 'OUR FIGHT' to keep and bare arms

A recent government policy change has taken a bite out of the nation's already stressed ammunition supply, leaving arms dealers scrambling to find ammo for private gun owners.

*CLICK below on the 'My Website' link for this madding policy story

Visit My Website

-ARM and prepare yourselves folks-Captain

*'Sweeps' NOTE:

…Hey Gang, here's a Millionaire Guy with a Pro-American/2^nd Amendment great idea and help...using his own money to fund 'free guns'/training. Kid you not, hope and support on the horizon…check it out. Tah/'S'

Visit My Website

Millionaire Patriot Wants
YOU Armed and Trained

Offers His Own Money to Provide You With Springfield Armory Pistol and 30-State Concealed Weapon Permit

Dear American Patriots,

The next four years may prove to be a turning point for all freedom loving Americans.

With the new administration holding party majorities in the House and Senate, we are facing the worst political environment for the passage of unchecked gun control legislation and further erosion of our constitutional right to bear arms than we have previously seen in our lifetimes.

As the nation creeps from recession to depression, the potential for civil unrest in every major city grows more likely. There has never been a more crucial time in our nation's history to make sure you are armed and trained for the protection of yourself and your family.

One man in our country knows this better than most, and I'm proud to tell you, he is doing something about it.

His name is Dr. Ignatius Piazza.

He is the Founder and Director of Front Sight Firearms Training Institute and is known by his hundreds of thousands of students as 'The Millionaire Patriot' because he has literally given away millions of dollars in free and discounted training to law abiding citizens to assist them is securing what he refers to as "The Comfort of Skill at Arms."

Dr. Piazza, the Millionaire Patriot, wants YOU armed and trained and he is putting his money where his mouth is.

He is providing you with the opportunity to attend five days of world class training at his Front Sight Firearms Training Institute with everything you need to secure permits to carry a concealed handgun in over 30 states—all for pennies-on-the-dollar!

Plus, if you act quickly before all the guns he set aside are gone, he will give you, free of charge, a Springfield Armory XD Pistol in your choice of 9mm, .40SW, or .45ACP!

That's right. This is legitimate. Thousands of people have already taken advantage of it AND YOU SHOULD TOO!

I can personally vouch for Dr. Piazza and his Front Sight Firearms Training Institute.

I believe now more than ever before that EVERY American should be armed and trained to the highest levels possible—levels that exceed law enforcement and military standards. Take advantage of the Millionaire Patriot's offer. Get armed and trained to prepare for what may be coming in the next four years!

NOW is the time to get armed and trained. Don't wait until it is too late.

Click for more details about the Millionaire Patriot's amazing offer.

Sincerely,


Joseph Farah
Editor and Chief Executive Officer
www.WorldNetDaily.com

P.S., You have never seen me make such a personal endorsement, so take heed to the fact that I am telling you to take advantage of Dr. Piazza's offer to get five days of world class training at Front Sight, concealed weapon permits good in 30 states, and a FREE Springfield Armory XD Pistol.

[captain]

skylark, on Mar 19 2009, 10:37 PM, said:

*'Sweeps' NOTE:

…Hey Gang, here's a Millionaire Guy with a Pro-American/2^nd Amendment great idea and help...using his own money to fund 'free guns'/training. Kid you not, hope and support on the horizon…check it out. Tah/'S'

http://email.wnd.com/ct/2912161:3737464878...E1C042ADEAB22F4

Millionaire Patriot Wants
YOU Armed and Trained

Offers His Own Money to Provide You With Springfield Armory Pistol and 30-State Concealed Weapon Permit

Dear American Patriots,

The next four years may prove to be a turning point for all freedom loving Americans.

With the new administration holding party majorities in the House and Senate, we are facing the worst political environment for the passage of unchecked gun control legislation and further erosion of our constitutional right to bear arms than we have previously seen in our lifetimes.

As the nation creeps from recession to depression, the potential for civil unrest in every major city grows more likely. There has never been a more crucial time in our nation's history to make sure you are armed and trained for the protection of yourself and your family.

One man in our country knows this better than most, and I'm proud to tell you, he is doing something about it.

His name is Dr. Ignatius Piazza.

He is the Founder and Director of Front Sight Firearms Training Institute and is known by his hundreds of thousands of students as 'The Millionaire Patriot' because he has literally given away millions of dollars in free and discounted training to law abiding citizens to assist them is securing what he refers to as "The Comfort of Skill at Arms."

Dr. Piazza, the Millionaire Patriot, wants YOU armed and trained and he is putting his money where his mouth is.

He is providing you with the opportunity to attend five days of world class training at his Front Sight Firearms Training Institute with everything you need to secure permits to carry a concealed handgun in over 30 states—all for pennies-on-the-dollar!

Plus, if you act quickly before all the guns he set aside are gone, he will give you, free of charge, a Springfield Armory XD Pistol in your choice of 9mm, .40SW, or .45ACP!

That's right. This is legitimate. Thousands of people have already taken advantage of it AND YOU SHOULD TOO!

I can personally vouch for Dr. Piazza and his Front Sight Firearms Training Institute.

I believe now more than ever before that EVERY American should be armed and trained to the highest levels possible—levels that exceed law enforcement and military standards. Take advantage of the Millionaire Patriot's offer. Get armed and trained to prepare for what may be coming in the next four years!

NOW is the time to get armed and trained. Don't wait until it is too late.

Click for more details about the Millionaire Patriot's amazing offer.

Sincerely,


Joseph Farah
Editor and Chief Executive Officer
www.WorldNetDaily.com

P.S., You have never seen me make such a personal endorsement, so take heed to the fact that I am telling you to take advantage of Dr. Piazza's offer to get five days of world class training at Front Sight, concealed weapon permits good in 30 states, and a FREE Springfield Armory XD Pistol.

-Here's what WE are up against with 'Obama' and his 'MOBSTERS',

-Well group, if YOU don't like the intrusions/disagree with the 'Power & Control' over us/think Small government is better than BIG/believe in the Individual and Small business…'The Middle Class'/ Then better Check the headings below…you might be on a 'Terrorist List'. Interesting huh? What ever happened to free DISSENT? Think about it. Is the American Government NOW acting like a MOB BOSS type of 'Take over' of people's freedoms/businesses? The answer is YES-Captain


The United Nations
The New World Order
Gun Control
The violation of Posse Comitatus
The Federal Reserve
The Income Tax
The Ammunition and Accountability Act
A possible Constitutional Convention
The North American Union
Universal Service Program
Radio Frequency Identification (RFID)
Abortion
Illegal Immigration
'The Green Agenda'

[skylark]

captain, on Mar 26 2009, 11:37 AM, said:

-Here's what WE are up against with 'Obama' and his 'MOBSTERS',

-Well group, if YOU don't like the intrusions/disagree with the 'Power & Control' over us/think Small government is better than BIG/believe in the Individual and Small business…'The Middle Class'/ Then better Check the headings below…you might be on a 'Terrorist List'. Interesting huh? What ever happened to free DISSENT? Think about it. Is the American Government NOW acting like a MOB BOSS type of 'Take over' of people's freedoms/businesses? The answer is YES-Captain


The United Nations
The New World Order
Gun Control
The violation of Posse Comitatus
The Federal Reserve
The Income Tax
The Ammunition and Accountability Act
A possible Constitutional Convention
The North American Union
Universal Service Program
Radio Frequency Identification (RFID)
Abortion
Illegal Immigration

'The Green Agenda'

*YES Captain & All,
...This is EXACTLY why the 2nd Amendment is SOOOOO Important, and why 'our founding fathers' stressed the reason for it. I now quote from Thomas Jefferson;

[skylark]

captain, on Mar 26 2009, 11:37 AM, said:

-Here's what WE are up against with 'Obama' and his 'MOBSTERS',

-Well group, if YOU don't like the intrusions/disagree with the 'Power & Control' over us/think Small government is better than BIG/believe in the Individual and Small business…'The Middle Class'/ Then better Check the headings below…you might be on a 'Terrorist List'. Interesting huh? What ever happened to free DISSENT? Think about it. Is the American Government NOW acting like a MOB BOSS type of 'Take over' of people's freedoms/businesses? The answer is YES-Captain


The United Nations
The New World Order
Gun Control
The violation of Posse Comitatus
The Federal Reserve
The Income Tax
The Ammunition and Accountability Act
A possible Constitutional Convention
The North American Union
Universal Service Program
Radio Frequency Identification (RFID)
Abortion
Illegal Immigration

'The Green Agenda'

*YES Captain & All,
...This is EXACTLY why the 2nd Amendment is SOOOOO Important, and why 'our founding fathers' stressed the reason for it. I now quote from Thomas Jefferson;
'The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear
arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
government'/'S'

[captain]

skylark, on Mar 27 2009, 03:55 PM, said:

*YES Captain & All,
...This is EXACTLY why the 2nd Amendment is SOOOOO Important, and why 'our founding fathers' stressed the reason for it. I now quote from Thomas Jefferson;
'The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear
arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
government'/'S'

-This 'following your reply' Sweeps',
*PORTENDS OF THINGS TO COME?

U.S. ARMY WILL PRACTICE GUN CONFISCATION IN STATE OF IOWA-VIDEO BELOW:

Visit My Website

Without ARMS/AMMO…No way of defending your property or life from others who take advantage of the situation.
Too bad-YET-civilians weren't training in mass to protect their liberty and fight for what's right!-Captain

[skylark]

captain, on Mar 28 2009, 12:36 PM, said:

-This 'following your reply' Sweeps',
*PORTENDS OF THINGS TO COME?

U.S. ARMY WILL PRACTICE GUN CONFISCATION IN STATE OF IOWA-VIDEO BELOW:

Visit My Website

Without ARMS/AMMO…No way of defending your property or life from others who take advantage of the situation.
Too bad-YET-civilians weren't training in mass to protect their liberty and fight for what's right!-Captain

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
...Put in the following VIDEO title, in the Main Topic Page. Get familiar with the lies about GUNS going to Mexico from the U.S.A., & read this whole Topic. Get MAD, Get Guns/Ammo. Thanks/'S'
GUN CONTROL/2^ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS VIDEO WITH NRA/GLEN BECK:

[skylark]

skylark, on Mar 29 2009, 04:35 PM, said:

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
...Put in the following VIDEO title, in the Main Topic Page. Get familiar with the lies about GUNS going to Mexico from the U.S.A., & read this whole Topic. Get MAD, Get Guns/Ammo. Thanks/'S'
GUN CONTROL/2^ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS VIDEO WITH NRA/GLEN BECK:

*’Sweeps’ NOTE:

Obama Lies…continues to…Senate Uses Sneak Attack On Guns. Read the message below, but guess what? I’m supplying the Phone Number to call ‘Obama’…right here in the NOTE. So, do it…swamp the White House phone lines.

CALL PRESIDENT OBAMA, 202-456-1111 and 202-456-1414 expressing your disdain and ABSOLUTE REJECTION of all GUN BANS/’S’

As a presidential candidate, Barack Obama deliberately and repeatedly lied to America's 90 million gun owners when he insisted that he would not try to take away anyone's firearms, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms said.

Now House Republicans are trying to add an amendment to the ‘Ominous Spending’ lands bill that would codify the right to carry concealed weapons in national parks, less than a week after a federal judge blocked a similar proposal.

But, Senate leaders have devised a strategy to use a bill that had already passed the House -- H.R. 146, a proposal to protect Revolutionary War battlefields -- and strip its contents, replacing it with the "Ominous Spending" lands bill.

Because the House already passed H.R. 146, the Rules Committee can approve a closed rule that would block a motion to recommit, eliminating the GOP's best procedural chance to stymie the bill. The chamber would only need a simple majority vote to concur with the Senate amendment.

CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb, reacting to the "Ominous Spending" lands bill tactic to force more gun control on U.S. citizen's said "the sneak attack on guns reveals the Democrats clear intention to outlaw guns everywhere. Obama has been lying to the nation when he says he will not take guns away."

U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly placed an injunction on the Interior rule last week. The judge's ruling infringed on the rights of gun owners as drivers in areas such as Washington, D.C., often drive through federal park lands every day. Rob Bishop (R-Utah) said "It's ridiculous for people to be subject to two different sets of regulations simply because their car moved a few feet," Bishop said in a statement. "The judge's decision last week was wrong."

"We warned America that Obama's 'support' for the Second Amendment was empty rhetoric," he stated, "and now his support for the "Ominous Spending" lands bill shows Obama was lying, and now gun rights may be dying."

"Right now," said Gottlieb, "I wouldn't take Obama's word if he said it rains a lot in Seattle. Apparently, law-abiding gun owners have nothing to fear unless they drive to work in Washington DC and park or drive in the wrong place."

[captain]

skylark, on Mar 31 2009, 10:08 AM, said:

*'Sweeps' NOTE:

Obama Lies…continues to…Senate Uses Sneak Attack On Guns. Read the message below, but guess what? I'm supplying the Phone Number to call 'Obama'…right here in the NOTE. So, do it…swamp the White House phone lines.

CALL PRESIDENT OBAMA, 202-456-1111 and 202-456-1414 expressing your disdain and ABSOLUTE REJECTION of all GUN BANS/'S'

As a presidential candidate, Barack Obama deliberately and repeatedly lied to America's 90 million gun owners when he insisted that he would not try to take away anyone's firearms, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms said.

Now House Republicans are trying to add an amendment to the 'Ominous Spending' lands bill that would codify the right to carry concealed weapons in national parks, less than a week after a federal judge blocked a similar proposal.

But, Senate leaders have devised a strategy to use a bill that had already passed the House -- H.R. 146, a proposal to protect Revolutionary War battlefields -- and strip its contents, replacing it with the "Ominous Spending" lands bill.

Because the House already passed H.R. 146, the Rules Committee can approve a closed rule that would block a motion to recommit, eliminating the GOP's best procedural chance to stymie the bill. The chamber would only need a simple majority vote to concur with the Senate amendment.

CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb, reacting to the "Ominous Spending" lands bill tactic to force more gun control on U.S. citizen's said "the sneak attack on guns reveals the Democrats clear intention to outlaw guns everywhere. Obama has been lying to the nation when he says he will not take guns away."

U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly placed an injunction on the Interior rule last week. The judge's ruling infringed on the rights of gun owners as drivers in areas such as Washington, D.C., often drive through federal park lands every day. Rob Bishop (R-Utah) said "It's ridiculous for people to be subject to two different sets of regulations simply because their car moved a few feet," Bishop said in a statement. "The judge's decision last week was wrong."

"We warned America that Obama's 'support' for the Second Amendment was empty rhetoric," he stated, "and now his support for the "Ominous Spending" lands bill shows Obama was lying, and now gun rights may be dying."

"Right now," said Gottlieb, "I wouldn't take Obama's word if he said it rains a lot in Seattle. Apparently, law-abiding gun owners have nothing to fear unless they drive to work in Washington DC and park or drive in the wrong place."

-This REFLECTION folks,
Pres.Calderon of Mexico, has also complained about the American guns, and a lot of
people (including politicians) have been talking about the need to stop
the smuggling of guns across the Mexican border - guns easily bought at
gun shows and retail stores in the United States.

This has led to more calls to militarize the border and stop smuggling
both ways (people who say we can just stop smuggling by doing a better
job of border control don't quite understand the amount of legal traffic
and trade across that border. Truly effective interdiction efforts would
hurt the economy of both countries.)

And yet, let's take a closer look at those guns...

On night patrol in Reynosa in November, soldiers came upon some
suspicious men, who led them to a house that was packed with
armaments for the drug cartels -- 540 rifles, 165 grenades, 500,000
rounds of ammunition and 14 sticks of dynamite. [...]

The war analogy is not a stretch for parts of Mexico. Soldiers, more
than 40,000 of them, are confronting heavily armed paramilitary
groups on city streets. The military-grade weapons being used,
antitank rockets and armor-piercing munitions, for example, are the
same ones found on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Are these being bought at gun shows in the U.S.? Unlikely.

Anybody who has followed the drug war in Mexico knows that there is
another factor that is heavily involved here...

The cartels bring in billions of dollars more than the Mexican
government spends to defeat them, and they spend their wealth to
bolster their ranks with an untold number of politicians, judges,
prison guards and police officers -- so many police officers, in
fact, that entire forces in cities across Mexico have been disbanded
and rebuilt from scratch.

If you can own politicians and police forces, do you really need to
smuggle individual handguns in from another country?

-Lots of 'Government' blame for guns here, not private citizens of the U.S.A. or people purchasing 'home defense' guns in the 'States'-Captain

[skylark]

captain, on Apr 2 2009, 12:19 PM, said:

-This REFLECTION folks,
Pres.Calderon of Mexico, has also complained about the American guns, and a lot of
people (including politicians) have been talking about the need to stop
the smuggling of guns across the Mexican border - guns easily bought at
gun shows and retail stores in the United States.

This has led to more calls to militarize the border and stop smuggling
both ways (people who say we can just stop smuggling by doing a better
job of border control don't quite understand the amount of legal traffic
and trade across that border. Truly effective interdiction efforts would
hurt the economy of both countries.)

And yet, let's take a closer look at those guns...

On night patrol in Reynosa in November, soldiers came upon some
suspicious men, who led them to a house that was packed with
armaments for the drug cartels -- 540 rifles, 165 grenades, 500,000
rounds of ammunition and 14 sticks of dynamite. [...]

The war analogy is not a stretch for parts of Mexico. Soldiers, more
than 40,000 of them, are confronting heavily armed paramilitary
groups on city streets. The military-grade weapons being used,
antitank rockets and armor-piercing munitions, for example, are the
same ones found on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Are these being bought at gun shows in the U.S.? Unlikely.

Anybody who has followed the drug war in Mexico knows that there is
another factor that is heavily involved here...

The cartels bring in billions of dollars more than the Mexican
government spends to defeat them, and they spend their wealth to
bolster their ranks with an untold number of politicians, judges,
prison guards and police officers -- so many police officers, in
fact, that entire forces in cities across Mexico have been disbanded
and rebuilt from scratch.

If you can own politicians and police forces, do you really need to
smuggle individual handguns in from another country?

-Lots of 'Government' blame for guns here, not private citizens of the U.S.A. or people purchasing 'home defense' guns in the 'States'-Captain

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
...Just put in some highly recommended VIDEOS from 'Liberty Tube' in the 1ST/MAIN Topic Page. These will explain much about why protecting our 'right to keep and bear arms'/other freedoms are so damned important right now. For those in Europs...I do hope you'll avail of these videos, and REALLY KNOW the value of Constitutional gaurentees. Many thanks/'S'

[captain]

skylark, on Apr 5 2009, 09:19 PM, said:

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
...Just put in some highly recommended VIDEOS from 'Liberty Tube' in the 1ST/MAIN Topic Page. These will explain much about why protecting our 'right to keep and bear arms'/other freedoms are so damned important right now. For those in Europs...I do hope you'll avail of these videos, and REALLY KNOW the value of Constitutional gaurentees. Many thanks/'S'

-Wonder how many Europeans would appreciate this? Hmmmm?
-A lot of the 'BELOW' is from an Ann Coulter Column. Gotta luv that Gal-Captain

Let's All Surrender Our Weapons…You First! Oh…in Europe they've already done that huh? They LET their Governments 'not allow them'/'S'

Gun-toting Americans are clearly more self-sufficient than the sissy Europeans.

Liberals tolerate rallies on behalf of cop-killers, but they prohibit law-abiding citizens working at community centers in Binghamton, N.Y., from being armed to defend themselves from disturbed, crack-addicted America-haters like Jiverly Wong.

It's something in liberals' DNA: They think they can pass a law eliminating guns and nuclear weapons, but teenagers having sex is completely beyond our control.

The demand for more gun control in response to any crime involving a gun is exactly like Obama's response to North Korea's openly belligerent act of launching a long-range missile this week: Obama leapt to action by calling for worldwide nuclear disarmament.

If the SAT test were used to determine how stupid a liberal is, one question would be: 'The best defense against lawless rogues who possess _______ is for law-abiding individuals to surrender their own _______________'.

Correct answer: Guns. We would also have accepted nuclear weapons.

Obama explained that 'the United States has a moral responsibility" to lead disarmament efforts because America is "the only nuclear power to have used a nuclear weapon'.

So don't go feeling all morally superior to a country whose business model consists of exporting heroin, nuclear bombs and counterfeit U.S. dollars, and of importing Swedish prostitutes, you yahoo Americans with your little flag lapel pins.

On the other hand, the Japanese haven't acted up much in the last, say, 64 years

BUT…fortunately, our sailors didn't wait around for Obama to save them when Somali pirates boarded their ship this week. Stop right now or I'll ask the U.N. to remind the 'international community' that 'the U.S. is not at war with Somali pirates'.

If a single civilian in that Binghamton community center had been armed, instead of 14 dead, there might have only been one or two -- including the shooter. In the end, the cops didn't stop Wong. His killing spree ended only when he decided to stop, and he killed himself.

"The shooter will eventually run out of ammo" strategy may not be the best one for stopping deranged multiple murderers.

But it's highly unlikely that any community center in the entire state would be safe from a disturbed former crack-addict like Wong because New York's restrictive gun laws require a citizen to prove he has a need for a gun to obtain a concealed carry permit.

Instead of having Planned Parenthood distribute condoms in schools, they ought to get the NRA/National Rifle Association…to pass out revolvers. It would save more lives.

[skylark]

captain, on Apr 9 2009, 01:14 PM, said:

-Wonder how many Europeans would appreciate this? Hmmmm?
-A lot of the 'BELOW' is from an Ann Coulter Column. Gotta luv that Gal-Captain

Let's All Surrender Our Weapons…You First! Oh…in Europe they've already done that huh? They LET their Governments 'not allow them'/'S'

Gun-toting Americans are clearly more self-sufficient than the sissy Europeans.

Liberals tolerate rallies on behalf of cop-killers, but they prohibit law-abiding citizens working at community centers in Binghamton, N.Y., from being armed to defend themselves from disturbed, crack-addicted America-haters like Jiverly Wong.

It's something in liberals' DNA: They think they can pass a law eliminating guns and nuclear weapons, but teenagers having sex is completely beyond our control.

The demand for more gun control in response to any crime involving a gun is exactly like Obama's response to North Korea's openly belligerent act of launching a long-range missile this week: Obama leapt to action by calling for worldwide nuclear disarmament.

If the SAT test were used to determine how stupid a liberal is, one question would be: 'The best defense against lawless rogues who possess _______ is for law-abiding individuals to surrender their own _______________'.

Correct answer: Guns. We would also have accepted nuclear weapons.

Obama explained that 'the United States has a moral responsibility" to lead disarmament efforts because America is "the only nuclear power to have used a nuclear weapon'.

So don't go feeling all morally superior to a country whose business model consists of exporting heroin, nuclear bombs and counterfeit U.S. dollars, and of importing Swedish prostitutes, you yahoo Americans with your little flag lapel pins.

On the other hand, the Japanese haven't acted up much in the last, say, 64 years

BUT…fortunately, our sailors didn't wait around for Obama to save them when Somali pirates boarded their ship this week. Stop right now or I'll ask the U.N. to remind the 'international community' that 'the U.S. is not at war with Somali pirates'.

If a single civilian in that Binghamton community center had been armed, instead of 14 dead, there might have only been one or two -- including the shooter. In the end, the cops didn't stop Wong. His killing spree ended only when he decided to stop, and he killed himself.

"The shooter will eventually run out of ammo" strategy may not be the best one for stopping deranged multiple murderers.

But it's highly unlikely that any community center in the entire state would be safe from a disturbed former crack-addict like Wong because New York's restrictive gun laws require a citizen to prove he has a need for a gun to obtain a concealed carry permit.

Instead of having Planned Parenthood distribute condoms in schools, they ought to get the NRA/National Rifle Association…to pass out revolvers. It would save more lives.

*’Sweeps’ NOTE;

The reason I put so much time and emphasis on owning guns freely and without
permits or registration is OWNING GUNS is the only thing that has kept this
country from getting locked-down and completely taken over.



We cannot afford to surrender our guns because if we do, we will also
surrender our freedom. GUN REGISTRATION is major step to getting our guns
taken. They need to identify where the guns are and who has them in order to take them.

This bill allows them into our houses for inspection any time they choose.
Can you imagine someone showing up at your house randomly and forcing entry
because you have let them know you have a gun???



In order for them to… ALLOW you the ownership of a gun, they take away the rest of your rights to search and seizure, etc. etc. WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS
LEGISLATION!... HR 45 Blair Holt Firearms Act Of 2009

Date: Monday, 20-Apr-2009 13:08:23 Boy they are making it harder and harder
to HAVE guns. Soon, only the rich will be able to afford all the taxes, dues
etc to have one. They did it this way in Australia. Step by step they took
away their gun rights and privileges.



Now Obama promises Mexico that he will become Draconian on gun laws in the
states. I even saw a commercial…On American TV,..In Spanish showing a
group or men singing a Mexican song. It was about how all of Mexico's drug
problems are because of Americans. It was on the AMC channel.



The TRUTH is folks…only about 15% of guns going to the Mexican Drug Cartel gangs are from American sources. Check it out/’S’



**MORE:

To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or
Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009.
You will get all the information. B

Basically this would make it illegal to own a
firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless: * It is registered
* You are fingerprinted
* You supply a current Driver's License
* You supply your Social Security #
* You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their
choosing

* Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be
reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically lose the right
to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.
There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a
child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child
under 18.

The Government would have the right to come and "inspect" that you are
storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and the fine is
punishable for up to 5 yrs. In prison.

[skylark]

skylark, on Apr 20 2009, 11:10 PM, said:

*'Sweeps' NOTE;

The reason I put so much time and emphasis on owning guns freely and without
permits or registration is OWNING GUNS is the only thing that has kept this
country from getting locked-down and completely taken over.

We cannot afford to surrender our guns because if we do, we will also
surrender our freedom. GUN REGISTRATION is major step to getting our guns
taken. They need to identify where the guns are and who has them in order to take them.

This bill allows them into our houses for inspection any time they choose.
Can you imagine someone showing up at your house randomly and forcing entry
because you have let them know you have a gun???



In order for them to… ALLOW you the ownership of a gun, they take away the rest of your rights to search and seizure, etc. etc. WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS
LEGISLATION!... HR 45 Blair Holt Firearms Act Of 2009

Date: Monday, 20-Apr-2009 13:08:23 Boy they are making it harder and harder
to HAVE guns. Soon, only the rich will be able to afford all the taxes, dues
etc to have one. They did it this way in Australia. Step by step they took
away their gun rights and privileges.



Now Obama promises Mexico that he will become Draconian on gun laws in the
states. I even saw a commercial…On American TV,..In Spanish showing a
group or men singing a Mexican song. It was about how all of Mexico's drug
problems are because of Americans. It was on the AMC channel.



The TRUTH is folks…only about 15% of guns going to the Mexican Drug Cartel gangs are from American sources. Check it out/'S'



**MORE:

To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or
Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009.
You will get all the information. B

Basically this would make it illegal to own a
firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless: * It is registered
* You are fingerprinted
* You supply a current Driver's License
* You supply your Social Security #
* You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their
choosing

* Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be
reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically lose the right
to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.
There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a
child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child
under 18.

The Government would have the right to come and "inspect" that you are
storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and the fine is
punishable for up to 5 yrs. In prison.

*’Sweeps’ NOTE-Important Update:

…STATE OF MONTANA DEFIES FED GOVT GUN LAWS…Thank goodness/’S’



Executive Summary – The USA state of Montana has signed into power a
revolutionary gun law. I mean REVOLUTIONARY.

The State of Montana has defied the federal government and their gun laws.
This will prompt a showdown between the federal government and the State of
Montana. The federal government fears citizens owning guns. They try to
curtail what types of guns they can own. The gun control laws all have one
common goal – confiscation of privately owned firearms.

Montana has gone beyond drawing a line in the sand. They have challenged the
Federal Government. The fed now either takes them on and risks them saying
the federal agents have no right to violate their state gun laws and arrest
the federal agents that try to enforce the federal firearms acts.



This will be a world-class event to watch….BECAUSE…..
Montana could go to voting for secession
from the union, which is really throwing the gauntlet in Obamas face.



If the federal government does nothing they lose face. Gotta love it.

Important Points – If guns and ammunition are manufactured inside the State
of Montana for sale and use inside that state then the federal firearms laws
have no applicability since the federal government only has the power to
control commerce across state lines. Montana has the law on their side.
Since when did the USA start following their own laws especially the
constitution of the USA, the very document that empowers the USA.

Silencers made in Montana and sold in Montana would be fully legal and not
registered. As a note silencers were first used before the 007 movies as a
device to enable one to hunt without disturbing neighbors and scaring game.
They were also useful as devices to control noise when practicing so as to
not disturb the neighbors.

Silencers work best with a bolt-action rifle. There is a long barrel and the
chamber is closed tight so as to direct all the gases though the silencer at
the tip of the barrel. Semi-auto pistols and revolvers do not really muffle
the sound very well except on the silver screen. The revolvers bleed gas out
with the sound all over the place. The semi-auto pistols bleed the gases out
when the slide recoils back.

Silencers are maybe nice for snipers picking off enemy soldiers even though
they reduce velocity but not very practical for hit men shooting pistols in
crowded places. Silencers were useful tools for gun enthusiasts and hunters.


There would be no firearm registration, serial numbers, criminal records
check, waiting periods or paperwork required. So in a short period of time
there would be millions and millions of unregistered untraceable guns in
Montana. Way to go Montana.

Discussion – Let us see what Obama does. If he hits Montana hard they will
probably vote to secede from the USA. The governor of Texas has already been
refusing Federal money because he does not want to agree to the conditions
that go with it and he has been saying secession is a right they have as
sort of a threat. Things are no longer the same with the USA. Do not be
deceived by Obama acting as if all is the same, it is not.


Text of the New Law:


HOUSE BILL NO. 246
INTRODUCED BY J. BONIEK, BENNETT, BUTCHER, CURTISS, RANDALL, WARBURTON
AN ACT EXEMPTING FROM FEDERAL REGULATION UNDER THE COMMERCE CLAUSE OF THE
CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES A FIREARM, A FIREARM ACCESSORY, OR
AMMUNITION MANUFACTURED AND RETAINED IN MONTANA; AND PROVIDING AN
APPLICABILITY DATE.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF MONTANA:

Section 1. Short title. [Sections 1 through 6] may be cited as the "Montana
Firearms Freedom Act".

Section 2. Legislative declarations of authority. The legislature declares
that the authority for [sections 1 through 6] is the following:
(1) The 10th amendment to the United States constitution guarantees to the
states and their people all powers not granted to the federal government
elsewhere in the constitution and reserves to the state and people of
Montana certain powers as they were understood at the time that Montana was
admitted to statehood in 1889. The guaranty of those powers is a matter of
contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of
the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted
by Montana and the United States in 1889.
(2) The ninth amendment to the United States constitution guarantees to the
people rights not granted in the constitution and reserves to the people of
Montana certain rights, as they were understood at the time that Montana was
admitted to statehood in 1889. The guaranty of those rights is a matter of
contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of
the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted
by Montana and the United States in 1889.
(3) The regulation of intrastate commerce is vested in the states under the
9th and 10th amendments to the United States constitution, particularly if
not expressly preempted by federal law. Congress has not expressly preempted
state regulation of intrastate commerce pertaining to the manufacture on an
intrastate basis of firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition.
(4) The second amendment to the United States constitution reserves to the
people the right to keep and bear arms as that right was understood at the
time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889, and the guaranty of the
right is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and
the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was
agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.(5) Article
II, section 12, of the Montana constitution clearly secures to Montana
citizens, and prohibits government interference with, the right of
individual Montana citizens to keep and bear arms. This constitutional
protection is unchanged from the 1889 Montana constitution, which was
approved by congress and the people of Montana, and the right exists, as it
was understood at the time that the compact with the United States was
agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.

Section 3. Definitions. As used in [sections 1 through 6], the following
definitions apply:
(1) "Borders of Montana" means the boundaries of Montana described in
Article I, section 1, of the 1889 Montana constitution.
(2) "Firearms accessories" means items that are used in conjunction with or
mounted upon a firearm but are not essential to the basic function of a
firearm, including but not limited to telescopic or laser sights, magazines,
flash or sound suppressors, folding or aftermarket stocks and grips,
speedloaders, ammunition carriers, and lights for target illumination.
(3) "Generic and insignificant parts" includes but is not limited to springs
screws, nuts, and pins.
(4) "Manufactured" means that a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition
has been created from basic materials for functional usefulness, including
but not limited to forging, casting, machining, or other processes for
working materials.

Section 4. Prohibitions. A personal firearm, a firearm accessory, or
ammunition that is manufactured commercially or privately in Montana and
that remains within the borders of Montana is not subject to federal law or
federal regulation, including registration, under the authority of congress
to regulate interstate commerce. It is declared by the legislature that
those items have not traveled in interstate commerce. This section applies
to a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that is manufactured in
Montana from basic materials and that can be manufactured without the
inclusion of any significant parts imported from another state. Generic and
insignificant parts that have other manufacturing or consumer product
applications are not firearms, firearms accessories, or ammunition, and
their importation into Montana and incorporation into a firearm, a firearm
accessory, or ammunition manufactured in Montana does not subject the
firearm, firearm accessory, or ammunition to federal regulation.



[size=4]It is…
declared by the legislature that basic materials, such as unmachined steel
and unshaped wood, are not firearms, firearms accessories, or ammunition and
are not subject to congressional authority to regulate firearms, firearms
accessories, and ammunition under interstate commerce as if they were
actually firearms, firearms accessories, or ammunition. The authority of
congress to regulate interstate commerce in basic materials does not include
authority to regulate firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition made in
Montana from those materials. Firearms accessories that are imported into
Montana from another state and that are subject to federal regulation as
being in interstate commerce do not subject a firearm to federal regulation
under interstate commerce because they are attached to or used in
conjunction with a firearm in Montana.

Section 5. Exceptions. [Section 4] does not apply to:
(1) A firearm that cannot be carried and used by one person;
(2) A firearm that has a bore diameter greater than 1 1/2 inches and that
uses smokeless powder, not black powder, as a propellant;
(3) ammunition with a projectile that explodes using an explosion of
chemical energy after the projectile leaves the firearm; or
(4) a firearm that discharges two or more projectiles with one activation of
the trigger or other firing device.

Section 6. Marketing of firearms. A firearm manufactured or sold in Montana
under [sections 1 through 6] must have the words "Made in Montana" clearly
stamped on a central metallic part, such as the receiver or frame.

Section 7. Codification instruction. [Sections 1 through 6] are intended to
be codified as an integral part of Title 30, and the provisions of Title 30
apply to [sections 1 through 6].

Section 8. Applicability. [This act] applies to firearms, firearms
accessories, and ammunition that are manufactured, as defined in [section 3]
and retained in Montana after October 1, 2009.

[skylark]

skylark, on May 13 2009, 03:37 AM, said:

*'Sweeps' NOTE-Important Update:

…STATE OF MONTANA DEFIES FED GOVT GUN LAWS…Thank goodness/'S'



Executive Summary – The USA state of Montana has signed into power a
revolutionary gun law. I mean REVOLUTIONARY.

The State of Montana has defied the federal government and their gun laws.
This will prompt a showdown between the federal government and the State of
Montana. The federal government fears citizens owning guns. They try to
curtail what types of guns they can own. The gun control laws all have one
common goal – confiscation of privately owned firearms.

Montana has gone beyond drawing a line in the sand. They have challenged the
Federal Government. The fed now either takes them on and risks them saying
the federal agents have no right to violate their state gun laws and arrest
the federal agents that try to enforce the federal firearms acts.



This will be a world-class event to watch….BECAUSE…..
Montana could go to voting for secession
from the union, which is really throwing the gauntlet in Obamas face.



If the federal government does nothing they lose face. Gotta love it.

Important Points – If guns and ammunition are manufactured inside the State
of Montana for sale and use inside that state then the federal firearms laws
have no applicability since the federal government only has the power to
control commerce across state lines. Montana has the law on their side.
Since when did the USA start following their own laws especially the
constitution of the USA, the very document that empowers the USA.

Silencers made in Montana and sold in Montana would be fully legal and not
registered. As a note silencers were first used before the 007 movies as a
device to enable one to hunt without disturbing neighbors and scaring game.
They were also useful as devices to control noise when practicing so as to
not disturb the neighbors.

Silencers work best with a bolt-action rifle. There is a long barrel and the
chamber is closed tight so as to direct all the gases though the silencer at
the tip of the barrel. Semi-auto pistols and revolvers do not really muffle
the sound very well except on the silver screen. The revolvers bleed gas out
with the sound all over the place. The semi-auto pistols bleed the gases out
when the slide recoils back.

Silencers are maybe nice for snipers picking off enemy soldiers even though
they reduce velocity but not very practical for hit men shooting pistols in
crowded places. Silencers were useful tools for gun enthusiasts and hunters.


There would be no firearm registration, serial numbers, criminal records
check, waiting periods or paperwork required. So in a short period of time
there would be millions and millions of unregistered untraceable guns in
Montana. Way to go Montana.

Discussion – Let us see what Obama does. If he hits Montana hard they will
probably vote to secede from the USA. The governor of Texas has already been
refusing Federal money because he does not want to agree to the conditions
that go with it and he has been saying secession is a right they have as
sort of a threat. Things are no longer the same with the USA. Do not be
deceived by Obama acting as if all is the same, it is not.


Text of the New Law:


HOUSE BILL NO. 246
INTRODUCED BY J. BONIEK, BENNETT, BUTCHER, CURTISS, RANDALL, WARBURTON
AN ACT EXEMPTING FROM FEDERAL REGULATION UNDER THE COMMERCE CLAUSE OF THE
CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES A FIREARM, A FIREARM ACCESSORY, OR
AMMUNITION MANUFACTURED AND RETAINED IN MONTANA; AND PROVIDING AN
APPLICABILITY DATE.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF MONTANA:

Section 1. Short title. [Sections 1 through 6] may be cited as the "Montana
Firearms Freedom Act".

Section 2. Legislative declarations of authority. The legislature declares
that the authority for [sections 1 through 6] is the following:
(1) The 10th amendment to the United States constitution guarantees to the
states and their people all powers not granted to the federal government
elsewhere in the constitution and reserves to the state and people of
Montana certain powers as they were understood at the time that Montana was
admitted to statehood in 1889. The guaranty of those powers is a matter of
contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of
the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted
by Montana and the United States in 1889.
(2) The ninth amendment to the United States constitution guarantees to the
people rights not granted in the constitution and reserves to the people of
Montana certain rights, as they were understood at the time that Montana was
admitted to statehood in 1889. The guaranty of those rights is a matter of
contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of
the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted
by Montana and the United States in 1889.
(3) The regulation of intrastate commerce is vested in the states under the
9th and 10th amendments to the United States constitution, particularly if
not expressly preempted by federal law. Congress has not expressly preempted
state regulation of intrastate commerce pertaining to the manufacture on an
intrastate basis of firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition.
(4) The second amendment to the United States constitution reserves to the
people the right to keep and bear arms as that right was understood at the
time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889, and the guaranty of the
right is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and
the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was
agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.(5) Article
II, section 12, of the Montana constitution clearly secures to Montana
citizens, and prohibits government interference with, the right of
individual Montana citizens to keep and bear arms. This constitutional
protection is unchanged from the 1889 Montana constitution, which was
approved by congress and the people of Montana, and the right exists, as it
was understood at the time that the compact with the United States was
agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.

Section 3. Definitions. As used in [sections 1 through 6], the following
definitions apply:
(1) "Borders of Montana" means the boundaries of Montana described in
Article I, section 1, of the 1889 Montana constitution.
(2) "Firearms accessories" means items that are used in conjunction with or
mounted upon a firearm but are not essential to the basic function of a
firearm, including but not limited to telescopic or laser sights, magazines,
flash or sound suppressors, folding or aftermarket stocks and grips,
speedloaders, ammunition carriers, and lights for target illumination.
(3) "Generic and insignificant parts" includes but is not limited to springs
screws, nuts, and pins.
(4) "Manufactured" means that a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition
has been created from basic materials for functional usefulness, including
but not limited to forging, casting, machining, or other processes for
working materials.

Section 4. Prohibitions. A personal firearm, a firearm accessory, or
ammunition that is manufactured commercially or privately in Montana and
that remains within the borders of Montana is not subject to federal law or
federal regulation, including registration, under the authority of congress
to regulate interstate commerce. It is declared by the legislature that
those items have not traveled in interstate commerce. This section applies
to a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that is manufactured in
Montana from basic materials and that can be manufactured without the
inclusion of any significant parts imported from another state. Generic and
insignificant parts that have other manufacturing or consumer product
applications are not firearms, firearms accessories, or ammunition, and
their importation into Montana and incorporation into a firearm, a firearm
accessory, or ammunition manufactured in Montana does not subject the
firearm, firearm accessory, or ammunition to federal regulation.



It is…
declared by the legislature that basic materials, such as unmachined steel
and unshaped wood, are not firearms, firearms accessories, or ammunition and
are not subject to congressional authority to regulate firearms, firearms
accessories, and ammunition under interstate commerce as if they were
actually firearms, firearms accessories, or ammunition. The authority of
congress to regulate interstate commerce in basic materials does not include
authority to regulate firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition made in
Montana from those materials. Firearms accessories that are imported into
Montana from another state and that are subject to federal regulation as
being in interstate commerce do not subject a firearm to federal regulation
under interstate commerce because they are attached to or used in
conjunction with a firearm in Montana.

Section 5. Exceptions. [Section 4] does not apply to:
(1) A firearm that cannot be carried and used by one person;
(2) A firearm that has a bore diameter greater than 1 1/2 inches and that
uses smokeless powder, not black powder, as a propellant;
(3) ammunition with a projectile that explodes using an explosion of
chemical energy after the projectile leaves the firearm; or
(4) a firearm that discharges two or more projectiles with one activation of
the trigger or other firing device.

Section 6. Marketing of firearms. A firearm manufactured or sold in Montana
under [sections 1 through 6] must have the words "Made in Montana" clearly
stamped on a central metallic part, such as the receiver or frame.

Section 7. Codification instruction. [Sections 1 through 6] are intended to
be codified as an integral part of Title 30, and the provisions of Title 30
apply to [sections 1 through 6].

Section 8. Applicability. [This act] applies to firearms, firearms
accessories, and ammunition that are manufactured, as defined in [section 3]
and retained in Montana after October 1, 2009.

*'Sweeps' NOTE:

…Obama's 'INDEFINITE DETENTION' proposed, and No charges...nor evidence would have to be provided...no crime would have to be cited. YEP it's TRUE folks, that's what is coming around the corner in the Obama Administration.

Obama proposes making the ultimate assault on civil liberties…AND The Constitution. Better check out the Video/explanation below…what's your comment/opinion? Do you still think…it's not time for REVOLUTION? Get Arms/Ammo/join-form Militias. No kidding/'S'



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skylark, on May 31 2009, 09:34 AM, said:

*'Sweeps' NOTE:

…Obama's 'INDEFINITE DETENTION' proposed, and No charges...nor evidence would have to be provided...no crime would have to be cited. YEP it's TRUE folks, that's what is coming around the corner in the Obama Administration.

Obama proposes making the ultimate assault on civil liberties…AND The Constitution. Better check out the Video/explanation below…what's your comment/opinion? Do you still think…it's not time for REVOLUTION? Get Arms/Ammo/join-form Militias. No kidding/'S'



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*'Sweeps' NOTE...and a 'Goodie' Folks,
DICK ACT of 1902... CAN'T BE REPEALED (GUN CONTROL FORBIDDEN) - Protection
Against Tyrannical Government
Submitted by Jonathan on Sun, 03/29/2009 - 2:04pm.
The Dick Act of 1902 also known as the Efficiency of Militia Bill H.R. 11654
of June 28, 1902 invalidates all so-called gun-control laws. It also
divides the militia into three distinct and separate entities.
** SPREAD THIS TO EVERYONE **
The three classes H.R. 11654 provides for are the organized militia,
henceforth known as the National Guard of the State, Territory and District
of Columbia, the unorganized militia and the regular army. The militia
encompasses every able-bodied male between the ages of 18 and 45. All
members of the unorganized militia have the absolute personal right and 2nd
Amendment right to keep and bear arms of any type, and as many as they can
afford to buy.

The Dick Act of 1902 cannot be repealed; to do so would violate bills of
attainder and ex post facto laws which would be yet another gross violation
of the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The President of the United
States has zero authority without violating the Constitution to call the
National Guard to serve outside of their State borders.

**Take that 'Obama'/'S'