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[simple simon]

Hello everyone,

re: unfolding news about the swine fever / NWO cull, below is a copy of an email which I just sent to some people.

Simon

---------------------------------------------
Hello everyone,

Below my message is something that was sent to me and might be interest, albeit alas for all the worst reasons. Even if the vaccines prove to not be as 'bad' as they are said to be (as we were told in the recent Mathew Ward channeled message) the rest of the info might still be of interest.

Simon
Citizen of Planet Earth, living in the British Isles.
-------Original Message-------

From:
Date: 27/04/2009 14:24:14
To:
Subject: Re: Felony not to take drive by vaccines at check points

Thanks Jane,

These links may be of interest - please share them with your undisclosed recipients too. (But not my name / email addy!)

Simon



http://projectcamelot.org - look at 26 April on the right. I'm about to listen to the Deagle interview

(if forwarding please remember to help stop spammers by removing all previous names & email addresses & by NOT doing so 'as an attachment')
-------Original Message-------

From:
Date: 27/04/2009 05:11:42
To:
Subject: Felony not to take drive by vaccines at check points

Please post to lists if you feel the info is appropriate

Jane





"Obama makes an official visit to Mexico, and a short week later, Mexico
City schools, Universities, and all PUBLIC BUILDINGS are shut down in
pandemic fear...."

http://www.rense.com...al85/wicked.htm

ATTENTION AMERICA!!!! This is highly significant. The WHO "Pandemic Control
Room" is a creation of the Illuminati elite for the final "end-game" killer
virus mapping and tracking, and is thus equipped with super-computers tied
to all U.N. member government's security forces. This "control room" is
where any declarations of "pandemic" will originate. When such a
"declaration" is sent to President Obama, FEMA and the Department of
Homeland Security "Pandemic Task Forces" will be deployed. Each State
Governor will be notified that the provisions of the Model State Emergency
Health Powers Act (MSEHPA) will be implemented.

Be sure you all know what is going on with this flu. It has another agenda
behind it. Call it a conspiracy and ignore it, or ridicule those who are
speaking of this calamity about to befall the world, or choose to take a
look at what is going on and do something. This is NO JOKE.

Do not allow yourself to be vaccinated. As you will read, they are making
non-compliance to the vaccines a felony which allows cops to use deadly
force if necessary. The vaccines are dangerous. The vaccines are vectors
for spreading this disease and other diseases plus they are full of poison.
This virus has been manufactured in labs by the insane of this country.
Don't believe me... do your own research and think for yourselves.

The plan is depopulation of 90% of the people on earth. Don't believe me...
research it and then get yourself prepared.

This article is very good in showing how this is most possibly a false flag
mission. The training for this has been going on for a while which is
always what is done when a planned snuff out of a population is about to
occur. Learn from the past, and be aware and awake.

DO NOT OBEY THE CRIMINALS IN POWER. Obama is delivering his change. I hope
those who are hypnotized by him are going to be happy. Obviously no
investigation into his background was done by many.

Keep the word going... and please TURN OFF YOUR TELEVISIONS. It is
PROPAGANDA.

Omega... America.

~ Athena
Cranio/Sacral - Lymph Drainage Therapist
bethanyathena@gmail.com

"The doctor of the future will give no medicine,
but will interest his patients in the care of the human frame,
in diet and in the cause and prevention of disease."
- Thomas Edison

"Let thy food be thy medicine."
"Cause no harm."
- Hippocrates

Edited by captain, 27 April 2009 - 06:23 PM.

[skylark]

simple simon, on Apr 27 2009, 02:48 PM, said:

Hello everyone,

re: unfolding news about the swine fever / NWO cull, below is a copy of an email which I just sent to some people.

Simon

---------------------------------------------
Hello everyone,

Below my message is something that was sent to me and might be interest, albeit alas for all the worst reasons. Even if the vaccines prove to not be as 'bad' as they are said to be (as we were told in the recent Mathew Ward channeled message) the rest of the info might still be of interest.

Simon
Citizen of Planet Earth, living in the British Isles.
-------Original Message-------

From:
Date: 27/04/2009 14:24:14
To:
Subject: Re: Felony not to take drive by vaccines at check points

Thanks Jane,

These links may be of interest - please share them with your undisclosed recipients too. (But not my name / email addy!)

Simon



http://projectcamelot.org - look at 26 April on the right. I'm about to listen to the Deagle interview

(if forwarding please remember to help stop spammers by removing all previous names & email addresses & by NOT doing so 'as an attachment')
-------Original Message-------

From:
Date: 27/04/2009 05:11:42
To:
Subject: Felony not to take drive by vaccines at check points

Please post to lists if you feel the info is appropriate

Jane





"Obama makes an official visit to Mexico, and a short week later, Mexico
City schools, Universities, and all PUBLIC BUILDINGS are shut down in
pandemic fear...."

http://www.rense.com...al85/wicked.htm

ATTENTION AMERICA!!!! This is highly significant. The WHO "Pandemic Control
Room" is a creation of the Illuminati elite for the final "end-game" killer
virus mapping and tracking, and is thus equipped with super-computers tied
to all U.N. member government's security forces. This "control room" is
where any declarations of "pandemic" will originate. When such a
"declaration" is sent to President Obama, FEMA and the Department of
Homeland Security "Pandemic Task Forces" will be deployed. Each State
Governor will be notified that the provisions of the Model State Emergency
Health Powers Act (MSEHPA) will be implemented.

Be sure you all know what is going on with this flu. It has another agenda
behind it. Call it a conspiracy and ignore it, or ridicule those who are
speaking of this calamity about to befall the world, or choose to take a
look at what is going on and do something. This is NO JOKE.

Do not allow yourself to be vaccinated. As you will read, they are making
non-compliance to the vaccines a felony which allows cops to use deadly
force if necessary. The vaccines are dangerous. The vaccines are vectors
for spreading this disease and other diseases plus they are full of poison.
This virus has been manufactured in labs by the insane of this country.
Don't believe me... do your own research and think for yourselves.

The plan is depopulation of 90% of the people on earth. Don't believe me...
research it and then get yourself prepared.

This article is very good in showing how this is most possibly a false flag
mission. The training for this has been going on for a while which is
always what is done when a planned snuff out of a population is about to
occur. Learn from the past, and be aware and awake.

DO NOT OBEY THE CRIMINALS IN POWER. Obama is delivering his change. I hope
those who are hypnotized by him are going to be happy. Obviously no
investigation into his background was done by many.

Keep the word going... and please TURN OFF YOUR TELEVISIONS. It is
PROPAGANDA.

Omega... America.

~ Athena
Cranio/Sacral - Lymph Drainage Therapist
bethanyathena@gmail.com

"The doctor of the future will give no medicine,
but will interest his patients in the care of the human frame,
in diet and in the cause and prevention of disease."
- Thomas Edison

"Let thy food be thy medicine."
"Cause no harm."
- Hippocrates

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
EMERGENCY - SPREAD THESE VIDEOS! AVIAN FLU - FEMA TRAIN CONNECTION! UPDATE:

'The Tucker'…Trucker paid under the table to transport virus …Then they relocated the guy and his family to government housing near Tucson-Arizona, which was
paid-in-full. I don't think the guy even realizes that he and his family are in danger.
One night his house might explode…due to a faulty gas leak/etc.
…killing his entire family. He is a loose end. According to this video a trucker is paid by FEMA through US bank to transport truckloads of virus at $5,000 per load/trip. End of 2^nd video shows multiple train cars (FEMA) lined up at a train yard and includes a peek inside one/'S'

*CLICK below on the 'My Website' Links for these EMERGENCY Videos:

Visit My Website

Visit My Website

This flu…bird/swine/human…re-combined, have to be bio-engineered in order to cross species to humans. If they are bio-engineered, then, they must be deliberately transmitted to the public via some conduit that the public would
come into contact with.

One thing is…make sure you don't fly anywhere. The germs on an airplane are terrible. Their air filtration systems are awful.

Plus…keep in mind that there may not be a flu problem at all!!
It could be primed to create mass hysteria so the government can
implement more RULES!!! Or it could be because…they are covering up
something else major that is happening, or using this as a TEST 'global spreading pattern' study for their next 'depopulation Leap'. Keep your eyes and ears open!

**ALSO Ponder WELL this:
The WHO-World Health Organization has a declaration of phases. In a PANDEMIC declaration of phases…it can go from 1 to 6. A declaration of phase 6…if it comes…Will more than likely bring with it a declaration of 'MARTIAL LAW' from governments. This will include…the TOTAL loss of the ability to talk with each other like this over the Internet. /'S'

[captain]

skylark, on Apr 27 2009, 05:47 PM, said:

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
EMERGENCY - SPREAD THESE VIDEOS! AVIAN FLU - FEMA TRAIN CONNECTION! UPDATE:

'The Tucker'…Trucker paid under the table to transport virus …Then they relocated the guy and his family to government housing near Tucson-Arizona, which was
paid-in-full. I don't think the guy even realizes that he and his family are in danger.
One night his house might explode…due to a faulty gas leak/etc.
…killing his entire family. He is a loose end. According to this video a trucker is paid by FEMA through US bank to transport truckloads of virus at $5,000 per load/trip. End of 2^nd video shows multiple train cars (FEMA) lined up at a train yard and includes a peek inside one/'S'

*CLICK below on the 'My Website' Links for these EMERGENCY Videos:

Visit My Website

Visit My Website

This flu…bird/swine/human…re-combined, have to be bio-engineered in order to cross species to humans. If they are bio-engineered, then, they must be deliberately transmitted to the public via some conduit that the public would
come into contact with.

One thing is…make sure you don't fly anywhere. The germs on an airplane are terrible. Their air filtration systems are awful.

Plus…keep in mind that there may not be a flu problem at all!!
It could be primed to create mass hysteria so the government can
implement more RULES!!! Or it could be because…they are covering up
something else major that is happening, or using this as a TEST 'global spreading pattern' study for their next 'depopulation Leap'. Keep your eyes and ears open!

**ALSO Ponder WELL this:
The WHO-World Health Organization has a declaration of phases. In a PANDEMIC declaration of phases…it can go from 1 to 6. A declaration of phase 6…if it comes…Will more than likely bring with it a declaration of 'MARTIAL LAW' from governments. This will include…the TOTAL loss of the ability to talk with each other like this over the Internet. /'S'

Keep in mind that the drugs available-Tamiflu and Relenza only treat the SYMPTOMS of Flu not the disease entity. There are No vaccines, and CAN’T be for AT LEASE a minimum of 6-7 months even if isolated, incubated/etc…before ‘drugs’/immunizations can be make. Don’t take ANY FLU VACCINES-Captain



-BUT, FLU BASICS YOU SHOULD KNOW:



Q: What is swine flu? A: Influenza is a virus that infects people, birds, pigs and other animals such as ferrets. Swine flu, or swine influenza, is a form of the virus that normally infects pigs. There are many forms of flu, and the different varieties have the ability to exchange genes with one another. The form of flu that originated in Mexico is a genetic mixture of viruses that have been seen in pigs, birds and people. It’s being called a swine flu because the overall structure of the virus is of the type that affects pigs, said Keiji Fukuda, a WHO official.

Q: How do people catch swine flu? A: Studies are still ongoing on how this particular swine flu is transmitted. Flu is generally transmitted through the respiratory tract. Droplets of infected body fluids can carry flu when people cough or sneeze. Studies indicate that masks called N95 respirators that, when properly used, filter germs from the breath and hamper the spread of flu. Neither contact with pigs nor eating pork has been linked to the spread of the flu, Fukuda said today. Still, health researchers are working to establish that the virus is spreading from person-to-person.

Q: What are the symptoms of swine flu? A: About one to four days usually elapse between the time a person is infected and the onset of symptoms. Influenza normally causes symptoms such as coughing, sneezing, headaches and body aches, fever, chills, and sometimes vomiting and diarrhea. Swine flu causes the same symptoms, and may be difficult to distinguish from other strains of flu and respiratory illnesses. Severe cases of flu that lead to death are normally seen in very young and very old people whose immune systems are too weak to fight off the virus. Adults with severe illness may also have difficulty breathing, dizziness, confusion, or severe vomiting and diarrhea.

Q: How can I tell if my child is sick? A: Children who are breathing abnormally fast or slowly may have respiratory illness. Bluish skin indicates a need for quick attention. Children who are abnormally sluggish and sleepy, irritable, or have fever or rash may also need attention.

Q: Have there been outbreaks of swine flu before? A: Yes. Health officials said in 1976 that an outbreak of swine flu in people might lead to a pandemic. Widespread vaccination was carried out in the U.S. before experts determined that the virus was not dangerous enough to cause a pandemic. Swine flu occasionally infects people in the U.S. without causing large outbreaks. From 2005 through January 2009, there were 12 reported swine flu cases in the U.S. None of them caused deaths.

Q: Why are health officials concerned about the outbreak of swine flu? A: When flu viruses mix their genes with one another, they can take on new forms. New flu viruses are harder for the immune system to defend against. With little or no opposition from the immune system, they can grow quickly and invade many tissues and organs. They may also set off a harmful immune overreaction in the body, called a “cytokine storm,” that may be lethal in itself. The swine flu virus from Mexico may have the ability to spread quickly and kill people, possibly causing a worldwide pandemic, according to the World Health Organization. Researchers are conducting studies right now to determine how easily the virus spreads in people and how dangerous it is.

Q: What’s a flu pandemic? A: Flu pandemics occur when new influenza viruses emerge that spread quickly and few people have immunity to them. While influenza viruses were only discovered about a century ago, researchers believe flu pandemics hit about twice or three times each century. Some pandemics are relatively mild, killing just a few million people globally. The most severe flu pandemic on record was the 1918 Spanish Flu, and researchers estimate it killed about 50 million people around the world.

Q: Are there any similarities between the swine flu and earlier pandemic viruses? A: Flu viruses are classified by two proteins on their surface, called H for hemagglutinin and N for neuraminidase. Both the swine flu found in Mexico and the 1918 Spanish Flu viruses are of the H1N1 subtype. Both viruses appear to have originated in animals; researchers believe the Spanish flu spread to people from birds. The two viruses are not identical, and there are still many genetic differences between them that researchers are studying.

Q: Do all H1N1 viruses cause pandemics? A: Not all H1N1 viruses cause pandemics. H1N1 descendants of the Spanish Flu virus continue to circulate in people and sometimes cause outbreaks of seasonal flu.

Q: Is there a vaccine against the swine flu from Mexico? A: Flu vaccines generally contain a dead or weakened form of a circulating virus. The vaccine prepares the body’s immune system to fend off a true infection. For the vaccine to work, it must match the circulating, “wild-type” virus relatively closely. There is no vaccine currently that exactly matches the swine flu. However, if the virus is sufficiently similar to circulating forms of H1N1 flu that are included in current vaccines, they may offer some limited protection from swine flu. While U.S. health officials are investigating this, the possibilities for this protection are poor, they said yesterday on a telephone call.

In addition, millions of people in the U.S. were vaccinated against swine flu in 1976. While that was not the same strain of flu as the one from Mexico, people who got the 1976 vaccine may get some limited protection from the currently circulating virus. Health officials may do some research on this issue as well.

Vaccine makers have contacted the World Health Organization about obtaining samples of the virus needed to make a vaccine. Making flu vaccine can take three to six months, depending on the type of manufacturing used.

Q: Are there drugs that treat swine flu? A: Roche Holding AG’s Tamiflu and GlaxoSmithKline Plc’s Relenza both have activity against swine flu. The U.S. has released its stockpile of Tamiflu to treat people with swine flu. Flu viruses sometimes develop resistance to antiviral drugs. The human form of H1N1 that’s currently circulating is resistant to Roche’s Tamiflu (not Relenza). If the two viruses were to exchange genes, the swine flu might become resistant, too.

Q: How else can I protect myself from swine flu? A: Personal hygiene measures, such as avoiding people who are coughing or sneezing and frequent hand-washing, may prevent flu infection. Those who aren’t health professionals should avoid contact with sick people, or those who are coughing or sneezing. People who get sick with flu symptoms should stay home. Studies have suggested that closing schools, theaters, and canceling gatherings in the early stages of a pandemic can limit its spread. Such measures would likely take place if health officials determine that the virus is spreading quickly enough and is deadly enough to cause a pandemic.

[skylark]

captain, on Apr 27 2009, 07:55 PM, said:

Keep in mind that the drugs available-Tamiflu and Relenza only treat the SYMPTOMS of Flu not the disease entity. There are No vaccines, and CAN'T be for AT LEASE a minimum of 6-7 months even if isolated, incubated/etc…before 'drugs'/immunizations can be make. Don't take ANY FLU VACCINES-Captain



-BUT, FLU BASICS YOU SHOULD KNOW:



Q: What is swine flu? A: Influenza is a virus that infects people, birds, pigs and other animals such as ferrets. Swine flu, or swine influenza, is a form of the virus that normally infects pigs. There are many forms of flu, and the different varieties have the ability to exchange genes with one another. The form of flu that originated in Mexico is a genetic mixture of viruses that have been seen in pigs, birds and people. It's being called a swine flu because the overall structure of the virus is of the type that affects pigs, said Keiji Fukuda, a WHO official.

Q: How do people catch swine flu? A: Studies are still ongoing on how this particular swine flu is transmitted. Flu is generally transmitted through the respiratory tract. Droplets of infected body fluids can carry flu when people cough or sneeze. Studies indicate that masks called N95 respirators that, when properly used, filter germs from the breath and hamper the spread of flu. Neither contact with pigs nor eating pork has been linked to the spread of the flu, Fukuda said today. Still, health researchers are working to establish that the virus is spreading from person-to-person.

Q: What are the symptoms of swine flu? A: About one to four days usually elapse between the time a person is infected and the onset of symptoms. Influenza normally causes symptoms such as coughing, sneezing, headaches and body aches, fever, chills, and sometimes vomiting and diarrhea. Swine flu causes the same symptoms, and may be difficult to distinguish from other strains of flu and respiratory illnesses. Severe cases of flu that lead to death are normally seen in very young and very old people whose immune systems are too weak to fight off the virus. Adults with severe illness may also have difficulty breathing, dizziness, confusion, or severe vomiting and diarrhea.

Q: How can I tell if my child is sick? A: Children who are breathing abnormally fast or slowly may have respiratory illness. Bluish skin indicates a need for quick attention. Children who are abnormally sluggish and sleepy, irritable, or have fever or rash may also need attention.

Q: Have there been outbreaks of swine flu before? A: Yes. Health officials said in 1976 that an outbreak of swine flu in people might lead to a pandemic. Widespread vaccination was carried out in the U.S. before experts determined that the virus was not dangerous enough to cause a pandemic. Swine flu occasionally infects people in the U.S. without causing large outbreaks. From 2005 through January 2009, there were 12 reported swine flu cases in the U.S. None of them caused deaths.

Q: Why are health officials concerned about the outbreak of swine flu? A: When flu viruses mix their genes with one another, they can take on new forms. New flu viruses are harder for the immune system to defend against. With little or no opposition from the immune system, they can grow quickly and invade many tissues and organs. They may also set off a harmful immune overreaction in the body, called a "cytokine storm," that may be lethal in itself. The swine flu virus from Mexico may have the ability to spread quickly and kill people, possibly causing a worldwide pandemic, according to the World Health Organization. Researchers are conducting studies right now to determine how easily the virus spreads in people and how dangerous it is.

Q: What's a flu pandemic? A: Flu pandemics occur when new influenza viruses emerge that spread quickly and few people have immunity to them. While influenza viruses were only discovered about a century ago, researchers believe flu pandemics hit about twice or three times each century. Some pandemics are relatively mild, killing just a few million people globally. The most severe flu pandemic on record was the 1918 Spanish Flu, and researchers estimate it killed about 50 million people around the world.

Q: Are there any similarities between the swine flu and earlier pandemic viruses? A: Flu viruses are classified by two proteins on their surface, called H for hemagglutinin and N for neuraminidase. Both the swine flu found in Mexico and the 1918 Spanish Flu viruses are of the H1N1 subtype. Both viruses appear to have originated in animals; researchers believe the Spanish flu spread to people from birds. The two viruses are not identical, and there are still many genetic differences between them that researchers are studying.

Q: Do all H1N1 viruses cause pandemics? A: Not all H1N1 viruses cause pandemics. H1N1 descendants of the Spanish Flu virus continue to circulate in people and sometimes cause outbreaks of seasonal flu.

Q: Is there a vaccine against the swine flu from Mexico? A: Flu vaccines generally contain a dead or weakened form of a circulating virus. The vaccine prepares the body's immune system to fend off a true infection. For the vaccine to work, it must match the circulating, "wild-type" virus relatively closely. There is no vaccine currently that exactly matches the swine flu. However, if the virus is sufficiently similar to circulating forms of H1N1 flu that are included in current vaccines, they may offer some limited protection from swine flu. While U.S. health officials are investigating this, the possibilities for this protection are poor, they said yesterday on a telephone call.

In addition, millions of people in the U.S. were vaccinated against swine flu in 1976. While that was not the same strain of flu as the one from Mexico, people who got the 1976 vaccine may get some limited protection from the currently circulating virus. Health officials may do some research on this issue as well.

Vaccine makers have contacted the World Health Organization about obtaining samples of the virus needed to make a vaccine. Making flu vaccine can take three to six months, depending on the type of manufacturing used.

Q: Are there drugs that treat swine flu? A: Roche Holding AG's Tamiflu and GlaxoSmithKline Plc's Relenza both have activity against swine flu. The U.S. has released its stockpile of Tamiflu to treat people with swine flu. Flu viruses sometimes develop resistance to antiviral drugs. The human form of H1N1 that's currently circulating is resistant to Roche's Tamiflu (not Relenza). If the two viruses were to exchange genes, the swine flu might become resistant, too.

Q: How else can I protect myself from swine flu? A: Personal hygiene measures, such as avoiding people who are coughing or sneezing and frequent hand-washing, may prevent flu infection. Those who aren't health professionals should avoid contact with sick people, or those who are coughing or sneezing. People who get sick with flu symptoms should stay home. Studies have suggested that closing schools, theaters, and canceling gatherings in the early stages of a pandemic can limit its spread. Such measures would likely take place if health officials determine that the virus is spreading quickly enough and is deadly enough to cause a pandemic.

OK 'Captain',
NOW…I am making a plea to everyone who reads this, please, please DO NOT TAKE ANY VACCINE THAT IS PURPORTED TO 'PREVENT' THIS FLU.

Remember 1976 and the so called Swine Flu outbreak that was purported to be
a coming pandemic? It only infected recruits at Ft. Dix. Why? Because I
believe that the so called Swine Flu virus infected the recruits due to the
vaccines they were given. Whether the government developed the Swine Flu
1976 virus and infected the recruits as a means to test the public to see if
people would comply with a call to take vaccination against Swine Flu, or
the recruits became infected via contaminated vaccine they were given as
part of the recruit regimen, that outbreak was as phony as they come. I was
one of the people duped into taking a Swine Flu shot and it made me so sick.
I was sick in bed for three months after taking the vaccine.

Do not take seasonal flu vaccine if you are told that it could help prevent
this brand new Swine Flu variant. It won't do a thing to prevent this flu.
What it will do is serve up new genetic material to the Swine Flu virus that
I have dubbed Spanish Flu 2, the Sequel. The Spanish Flu variant will use
the gene sequences in the vaccine in humans to develop more of the changes
that make the virus more readily infect humans. We do not want to give this
virus more human genetic material so that it will infect humans more readily
person to person. This is what vaccinated individuals do for pandemic
strains.

There is also a safety issue in any experimental vaccine, much like the one
in 1976. Some people even feel that such a vaccine for pandemic strain might
require more than one vaccination which could actually be a binary set up.
The first shot might just add some genetic code that stays dormant in the
body until one gets the second vaccine shot which then serves to only cause
infection. It could trigger Guillain-barre syndrome, Typhus or some other
condition.

[/size]An Influenza vaccine does not protect or prevent a person from contracting flu.
It is purported to, maybe, prevent some complications of flu and maybe
shorten duration. I am not even sure it does that. Personally, I feel the
vaccine weakens our immune system and also sickens us due to contaminants in
the vaccine. I feel that people can better protect themselves by washing
hands often and thoroughly. People should also use protective gloves when
out and about during epidemics. Don't be afraid of 'looking odd'. I would
not be ashamed to use a mask and gloves. I see that the Mexicans are using
them.

A big problem during a pandemic is that these simple supplies will become
extremely scarce awfully quickly. Stock up now. Medical supplies. Personal
hygiene supplies and don't forget fido, or any other pet. Once a pandemic
hits, it will be too late to stock up. Water, too.
We may lose clean water and electric power, so be prepared.

So, please, people, DON'T TAKE ANY VACCINES OFFERED. THEY COULD KILL YOU
BEFORE ANY VIRUS KILLS YOU/'S'

[captain]

skylark, on Apr 27 2009, 09:22 PM, said:

OK 'Captain',
NOW…I am making a plea to everyone who reads this, please, please DO NOT TAKE ANY VACCINE THAT IS PURPORTED TO 'PREVENT' THIS FLU.

Remember 1976 and the so called Swine Flu outbreak that was purported to be
a coming pandemic? It only infected recruits at Ft. Dix. Why? Because I
believe that the so called Swine Flu virus infected the recruits due to the
vaccines they were given. Whether the government developed the Swine Flu
1976 virus and infected the recruits as a means to test the public to see if
people would comply with a call to take vaccination against Swine Flu, or
the recruits became infected via contaminated vaccine they were given as
part of the recruit regimen, that outbreak was as phony as they come. I was
one of the people duped into taking a Swine Flu shot and it made me so sick.
I was sick in bed for three months after taking the vaccine.

Do not take seasonal flu vaccine if you are told that it could help prevent
this brand new Swine Flu variant. It won't do a thing to prevent this flu.
What it will do is serve up new genetic material to the Swine Flu virus that
I have dubbed Spanish Flu 2, the Sequel. The Spanish Flu variant will use
the gene sequences in the vaccine in humans to develop more of the changes
that make the virus more readily infect humans. We do not want to give this
virus more human genetic material so that it will infect humans more readily
person to person. This is what vaccinated individuals do for pandemic
strains.

There is also a safety issue in any experimental vaccine, much like the one
in 1976. Some people even feel that such a vaccine for pandemic strain might
require more than one vaccination which could actually be a binary set up.
The first shot might just add some genetic code that stays dormant in the
body until one gets the second vaccine shot which then serves to only cause
infection. It could trigger Guillain-barre syndrome, Typhus or some other
condition.

</FONT>An Influenza vaccine does not protect or prevent a person from contracting flu.
It is purported to, maybe, prevent some complications of flu and maybe
shorten duration. I am not even sure it does that. Personally, I feel the
vaccine weakens our immune system and also sickens us due to contaminants in
the vaccine. I feel that people can better protect themselves by washing
hands often and thoroughly. People should also use protective gloves when
out and about during epidemics. Don't be afraid of 'looking odd'. I would
not be ashamed to use a mask and gloves. I see that the Mexicans are using
them.

A big problem during a pandemic is that these simple supplies will become
extremely scarce awfully quickly. Stock up now. Medical supplies. Personal
hygiene supplies and don't forget fido, or any other pet. Once a pandemic
hits, it will be too late to stock up. Water, too.
We may lose clean water and electric power, so be prepared.

So, please, people, DON'T TAKE ANY VACCINES OFFERED. THEY COULD KILL YOU
BEFORE ANY VIRUS KILLS YOU/'S'

-Hi All,
-This is the summary/conclusion to date by a Doctor Keith in the U.S.A. Hope you find it interesting. Thanks-Captain

US vaccine manufacturers bio-terrorists?

Now, nobody here is being told that the present "outbreak" of 'flu was deliberately engineered by a US pharmaceutical company.

Baxter International Inc. were caught on the brink of starting an avian flu "pandemic," by distributing flu vaccines contaminated with H5N1 avian flu virus to 18 countries last December.

It was only by providence that the batch was first tested on ferrets in the Czech Republic, before being shipped out for injection into humans. The ferrets all died and the shocking discovery was made.

H5N1 is a strain of avian flu virus classed as a bio-terrorism agent, as it has a kill ratio of 60%. If they had gone into full human inoculation procedures—and well they might—they would have perpetrated the biggest crime against humanity ever to take place. The scale would make Hiroshima, genocide and the Holocaust seem like schoolboy pranks.

By the way, it is impossible and almost inconceivable, that the vaccines could have been "accidentally" contaminated. You will hear that as an excuse, I'm sure, and the government will back them—because the government also has dirty fingers…I'm referring to the previous administration, which spent most of its term in office trying to create the myth of a flu pandemic and putting in place severe population control methods to coerce the masses into doing what they are told.

The fact is, that if Baxter has such dirty cross-contamination techniques, they are not fit to produce pig food, never mind vaccines for inoculation into human beings. Yet they are now snooping around the back door and asking for samples of the virus—so they can make up more vaccine and get more profits. What?

Why should Baxter be trusted, when they have already been proven to be at the very least criminally negligent, and at worst a prime suspect in attempting to carry off one of the most heinous crimes in the history of mankind?

The company has already put the safety of the entire human race at risk, and now, just a few weeks later, we're expected to invest our confidence in them and take their shots with a smile and keep quiet?

As Mike Adams, The Health Ranger, has commented, "If you mail an envelope full of anthrax to your Senator, you get arrested as a terrorist. So why is Baxter — which mailed samples of a far more deadly viral strain to labs around the world — getting away with saying, essentially, 'Oops?'"

A Bigger Conspiracy

Along with total silence and connivance from the US government about Baxter's criminal intent (or negligence), the controlled US press has been totally unwilling to talk about this story or investigate it. All they bleat about is the coming pandemic and the fear it generates.

Yet in other countries, this shocking revelation is being freely talked about.

Not only that, but there is the whisper of a mass extermination agenda. People are asking: is this a blatant attempt to reduce the world's population by over 50%?

It would suit the elite—but, of course, not the billions of dead people, if such a scenario could be truly engineered.

And while I am talking about engineered, let me tell you something TOTALLY SHOCKING that puts the whole thing into the right perspective…

The scores of people who have so far died in Mexico were killed by a strange virus that has bits of genetic material from swine flu, avian flu and human flu, consisting of an intercontinental mix of viruses from North America, Europe and Asia. This is odd, to say the least.

Scientists said the virus combines genetic material from pigs, birds and humans in a way researchers have not seen before. The official view states that despite mutations which are considered normal, viruses 'rarely' pass from one species of animal to another. So how could this swine flu manage to traverse the boundaries of humans, birds and pigs all by itself?

"We are very, very concerned," World Health Organization spokesman Thomas Abraham said. "We have what appears to be a novel virus and it has spread from human to human," he said. Flu DNA does mix but such an unusual combination does raise the likelihood that it is an artificial virus—perhaps derived from the Baxter vaccine, released only weeks before.

I didn't believe the stories of deliberately manufactured AIDS disease: but I have no choice, as a scientist, except to grasp the fact that in this outbreak could have been caused when somebody deliberately released a contrived artificial virus into the population.

I mean, maybe the Baxter story is just a ruse, a device, to deflect attention from the fact that the power elite are working on this program and have just ordered the release of this "mass extermination" agent.

Not that I am saying that Baxter might be innocent; goofs of such magnitude are criminal, not merely a slip up.

But this story already smacks of dirty, dark hidden layers upon layers, and I doubt very much that the Baxter plot is any more than the tip of a very nasty iceberg.

Meanwhile, if there is a high-up conspiracy, President Obama doesn't seem to be in on it. On Apr. 16th Obama was received at Mexico's anthropology museum in Mexico City by Felipe Solis, a distinguished archaeologist, who died the following day from symptoms similar to flu.

The president seems to have been closer to contact with the mutant virus than almost anyone else in the USA!

In fact the really paranoid among us might even wonder if this was an elaborate attempt to assassinate him. It remains a rather strange "coincidence" that it all started on ground zero, right where he was visiting.

So, here's how to decode the official dissembling and the media hysteria

Item #1. Somebody, somewhere wants this pandemic. It's been pushed for years and the fact that the dangerous virus is now an engineered mix of strains does not alter this fact.

Item #2. The response will be totally unscientific, not based on sound medical reasoning but based on a manipulative and evil political agenda.

Item #3. Somebody wants the dollars. That means worthless vaccines will be forced on the population as a response. It may even come to the point where the population is forced, at gunpoint, to accept a dangerous and quite ineffective vaccine, because big shots like Rumsfeld have shares in the vaccine company.

Item #4. The Bush administration prepared the ground for an avian flu "pandemic,"
…calling it "inevitable", although in order to even jump from human to human, the virus would have to have mutated (or "evolved") in a very specific way—a totally unpredictable event. So how could they know about it in advance?

Well, they could if they CAUSED it to happen. One might draw the conclusion that the government was working on that very mutation, and were going to release it soon. That's how they knew…

Item #5. This is a tool for further restrictions of freedom. Regulations
have been set in place so that, should the government declare a pandemic,
vaccinations could become mandatory; if refused, the person would be
"quarantined," which, of course, means imprisoned…you have wonder why so MANY new prisons are being rapidly built in the US, when there is no corresponding increase in crime statistics.

Committed anti-establishment figures seem to have a way of dying suddenly and conveniently in US prisons. It could be a pre-planned way to get rid of political troublemakers. Deaths will be blamed on the fact they didn't get the vaccine in time.

Anyone who stands in the way of profits for Big Pharma is obviously, by definition, politically undesirable.

Item #6. The mandatory vaccine, in this Hell scenario, would become a further source of the disease, not a protection against it. If the depopulation agenda has been set in motion, instead of the pandemic being controlled, it will be fanned. The vaccine will infect healthy people. Figures will rise rapidly. Deaths will soon be out of control.

At the first sign of forced vaccinations, I'm over the border. Care to join me?

[simple simon]

captain, on Apr 28 2009, 05:44 PM, said:

At the first sign of forced vaccinations, I'm over the border. Care to join me?

Hi Cap'n,

erm, which border? Into Mexico? The only country (so far) where people are actually perishing from the illness.

Anyway, it may be too late by then, as the borders might be closed before the cull (oops! I mean mass vaccinating) starts.

btw, we must not forget that the Chinese have openly stated that they need more space for their burgeoning population, and therefore although unfortunate it would be better that 200+million Americans should die, rather than 400 million Chinese. So, who wants whom dead? Are there competing forces with broadly similar aims? (global depopulation, starting in the USA) Life has just got a whole lot more complicated.

Here in Britain we will know that we are definitely in big trouble when our dearly loved highly esteemed leader (sic) starts telling us not to panic, that plans for our protection / safety are well advanced, etc.

Simon

Edited by simple simon, 29 April 2009 - 09:07 AM.

[skylark]

captain, on Apr 27 2009, 07:55 PM, said:

Keep in mind that the drugs available-Tamiflu and Relenza only treat the SYMPTOMS of Flu not the disease entity. There are No vaccines, and CAN'T be for AT LEASE a minimum of 6-7 months even if isolated, incubated/etc…before 'drugs'/immunizations can be make. Don't take ANY FLU VACCINES-Captain



-BUT, FLU BASICS YOU SHOULD KNOW:



Q: What is swine flu? A: Influenza is a virus that infects people, birds, pigs and other animals such as ferrets. Swine flu, or swine influenza, is a form of the virus that normally infects pigs. There are many forms of flu, and the different varieties have the ability to exchange genes with one another. The form of flu that originated in Mexico is a genetic mixture of viruses that have been seen in pigs, birds and people. It's being called a swine flu because the overall structure of the virus is of the type that affects pigs, said Keiji Fukuda, a WHO official.

Q: How do people catch swine flu? A: Studies are still ongoing on how this particular swine flu is transmitted. Flu is generally transmitted through the respiratory tract. Droplets of infected body fluids can carry flu when people cough or sneeze. Studies indicate that masks called N95 respirators that, when properly used, filter germs from the breath and hamper the spread of flu. Neither contact with pigs nor eating pork has been linked to the spread of the flu, Fukuda said today. Still, health researchers are working to establish that the virus is spreading from person-to-person.

Q: What are the symptoms of swine flu? A: About one to four days usually elapse between the time a person is infected and the onset of symptoms. Influenza normally causes symptoms such as coughing, sneezing, headaches and body aches, fever, chills, and sometimes vomiting and diarrhea. Swine flu causes the same symptoms, and may be difficult to distinguish from other strains of flu and respiratory illnesses. Severe cases of flu that lead to death are normally seen in very young and very old people whose immune systems are too weak to fight off the virus. Adults with severe illness may also have difficulty breathing, dizziness, confusion, or severe vomiting and diarrhea.

Q: How can I tell if my child is sick? A: Children who are breathing abnormally fast or slowly may have respiratory illness. Bluish skin indicates a need for quick attention. Children who are abnormally sluggish and sleepy, irritable, or have fever or rash may also need attention.

Q: Have there been outbreaks of swine flu before? A: Yes. Health officials said in 1976 that an outbreak of swine flu in people might lead to a pandemic. Widespread vaccination was carried out in the U.S. before experts determined that the virus was not dangerous enough to cause a pandemic. Swine flu occasionally infects people in the U.S. without causing large outbreaks. From 2005 through January 2009, there were 12 reported swine flu cases in the U.S. None of them caused deaths.

Q: Why are health officials concerned about the outbreak of swine flu? A: When flu viruses mix their genes with one another, they can take on new forms. New flu viruses are harder for the immune system to defend against. With little or no opposition from the immune system, they can grow quickly and invade many tissues and organs. They may also set off a harmful immune overreaction in the body, called a "cytokine storm," that may be lethal in itself. The swine flu virus from Mexico may have the ability to spread quickly and kill people, possibly causing a worldwide pandemic, according to the World Health Organization. Researchers are conducting studies right now to determine how easily the virus spreads in people and how dangerous it is.

Q: What's a flu pandemic? A: Flu pandemics occur when new influenza viruses emerge that spread quickly and few people have immunity to them. While influenza viruses were only discovered about a century ago, researchers believe flu pandemics hit about twice or three times each century. Some pandemics are relatively mild, killing just a few million people globally. The most severe flu pandemic on record was the 1918 Spanish Flu, and researchers estimate it killed about 50 million people around the world.

Q: Are there any similarities between the swine flu and earlier pandemic viruses? A: Flu viruses are classified by two proteins on their surface, called H for hemagglutinin and N for neuraminidase. Both the swine flu found in Mexico and the 1918 Spanish Flu viruses are of the H1N1 subtype. Both viruses appear to have originated in animals; researchers believe the Spanish flu spread to people from birds. The two viruses are not identical, and there are still many genetic differences between them that researchers are studying.

Q: Do all H1N1 viruses cause pandemics? A: Not all H1N1 viruses cause pandemics. H1N1 descendants of the Spanish Flu virus continue to circulate in people and sometimes cause outbreaks of seasonal flu.

Q: Is there a vaccine against the swine flu from Mexico? A: Flu vaccines generally contain a dead or weakened form of a circulating virus. The vaccine prepares the body's immune system to fend off a true infection. For the vaccine to work, it must match the circulating, "wild-type" virus relatively closely. There is no vaccine currently that exactly matches the swine flu. However, if the virus is sufficiently similar to circulating forms of H1N1 flu that are included in current vaccines, they may offer some limited protection from swine flu. While U.S. health officials are investigating this, the possibilities for this protection are poor, they said yesterday on a telephone call.

In addition, millions of people in the U.S. were vaccinated against swine flu in 1976. While that was not the same strain of flu as the one from Mexico, people who got the 1976 vaccine may get some limited protection from the currently circulating virus. Health officials may do some research on this issue as well.

Vaccine makers have contacted the World Health Organization about obtaining samples of the virus needed to make a vaccine. Making flu vaccine can take three to six months, depending on the type of manufacturing used.

Q: Are there drugs that treat swine flu? A: Roche Holding AG's Tamiflu and GlaxoSmithKline Plc's Relenza both have activity against swine flu. The U.S. has released its stockpile of Tamiflu to treat people with swine flu. Flu viruses sometimes develop resistance to antiviral drugs. The human form of H1N1 that's currently circulating is resistant to Roche's Tamiflu (not Relenza). If the two viruses were to exchange genes, the swine flu might become resistant, too.

Q: How else can I protect myself from swine flu? A: Personal hygiene measures, such as avoiding people who are coughing or sneezing and frequent hand-washing, may prevent flu infection. Those who aren't health professionals should avoid contact with sick people, or those who are coughing or sneezing. People who get sick with flu symptoms should stay home. Studies have suggested that closing schools, theaters, and canceling gatherings in the early stages of a pandemic can limit its spread. Such measures would likely take place if health officials determine that the virus is spreading quickly enough and is deadly enough to cause a pandemic.

*'Sweeps' NOTE:

…Not to be an Alarmist, but consider…that in order to accelerate the dispersal of a bio-weponized agent…that CHEMTRAILS technology could be invoked to do this! Watch the Skies folks. We know CHEMTRAIL spraying of population areas has occurred, is occurring, and can be counted on to keep occurring. If 'They' decided to include this Swine Flu/bio-engineered Virus in the SPRAY…'YEP' it would be a global 'Pandemic' alright. Get familiar with Chemtrails…go to the Forum 'Search Engine and type in Chemtrail(s), and watch/pay attention to the Video below as well. Thanks and good luck/'S'

*CLICK below on the 'My Website' Link for this short but revealing Chemtrail Video:

Visit My Website

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[simple simon]

Get your swine flu shot - 1976!

Take a look at this vintage video from 1976, warning Americans about Swine Flu.

http://lbc.co.uk/get...hot---1976-7877

btw, on the radio I heard it said that various officials have been building up stocks of vaccine 'for the past 5 years'. hmm!!!

This illness could turn out to be an enormous 'own goal', resulting in many more people seeing through things and realising that 'some people are up to no good' than ever before.

I just hope that it does not also kill millions. So far all deaths bar one has been in Mexico - and the one death outside of Mexico was of a Mexican baby living in Texas. So what has Mexico done to deserve this?

Simon

[skylark]

simple simon, on Apr 29 2009, 10:38 PM, said:

Get your swine flu shot - 1976!

Take a look at this vintage video from 1976, warning Americans about Swine Flu.

http://lbc.co.uk/get...hot---1976-7877

btw, on the radio I heard it said that various officials have been building up stocks of vaccine 'for the past 5 years'. hmm!!!

This illness could turn out to be an enormous 'own goal', resulting in many more people seeing through things and realising that 'some people are up to no good' than ever before.

I just hope that it does not also kill millions. So far all deaths bar one has been in Mexico - and the one death outside of Mexico was of a Mexican baby living in Texas. So what has Mexico done to deserve this?

Simon

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
RIGHT Good insights Simon. But, look at what happened in that era and extrapolate. It's a confounding question/problem on the lips of disease detectives:

Why have the only deaths from the swine flu outbreak happened in Mexico?
Investigators also want to know why the disease has killed young adults, who
should have the greatest resistance. Mexico has reported 159 fatalities in
flu-like cases in recent days, seven of which have been confirmed as swine flu.

Another 19 patients have been confirmed as having swine flu but surviving.
About 2,000 people have been hospitalized with symptoms'.

'By contrast, the United States has had 64 confirmed cases, five
hospitalizations and one 23 Month Old infant death'.

When the Avian Flu and SARS outbreak occurred a number of years ago,
researchers noted that it seemed to target only people of Oriental genetic
markers.

Even people in the United States who came down with these viruses
were discovered to have Oriental genetic markers in their background.

Similarly, this Swine Flu may target people with Hispanic genetic markers.
This would explain why people of other races -- like the three Israelis now
reported to have come down with Swine Flu are recovering.

It is time to remember William Cohen's warning. Scientists truly have
developed 'certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic-specific so that
they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races'.

Welcome to the horrific world of the developing New World Order!/'S'

[simple simon]

The World Health Organization (WHO) has raised its pandemic alert for swine flu to the second highest level, meaning that it believes a global outbreak of the disease is imminent.

WHO says the phase 5 alert means there is sustained human to human spread in at least two countries. It also signals that efforts to produce a vaccine will be ramped up.

WHO Director-General Margaret Chan made the decision Wednesday to raise the alert level from phase 4 signifying transmission in only one country after reviewing the latest scientific evidence on the outbreak.

http://www.guardian....article/8481260

Simon

[simple simon]

skylark, on Apr 29 2009, 11:27 PM, said:

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
RIGHT Good insights Simon. But, look at what happened in that era and extrapolate. It's a confounding question/problem on the lips of disease detectives:

<snip>

Hello Sweeps,

I could ask similar questions, and indeed did, in an earlier message.

It sure does look like this - however, it could also be that the illness has an unknown aspect to its payload. Early days yet.

btw, one case in London too - I think they said on the radio that it was someone who had been to Mexico, .

So, will things get so bad that no-one goes out??? Shops close, etc? Isn't this what happened in 1918?

Simon - who must get some shut-eye, as a deficiency in that also weakens one's immune system

Edited by simple simon, 29 April 2009 - 11:47 PM.

[skylark]

simple simon, on Apr 30 2009, 12:38 AM, said:

The World Health Organization (WHO) has raised its pandemic alert for swine flu to the second highest level, meaning that it believes a global outbreak of the disease is imminent.

WHO says the phase 5 alert means there is sustained human to human spread in at least two countries. It also signals that efforts to produce a vaccine will be ramped up.

WHO Director-General Margaret Chan made the decision Wednesday to raise the alert level from phase 4 signifying transmission in only one country after reviewing the latest scientific evidence on the outbreak.

http://www.guardian....article/8481260

Simon

Quote

...Yep Simon...heard that alright. Comes under the category of 'Trust No One', especially the UN.

*'Sweeps' NOTE:

…This BELOW…on Dr. Boylan's Reports:

Friends,

My friend, an Army Intelligence officer whom I will call "X", reveals where the Cabal bioengineered the current deadly Swine Flu Virus that threatens to become a pandemic. The location, he says, was:

"Fort Detrick, Maryland…infectious disease laboratory in Frederick, MD. 'They' [the Cabal] ALSO isolated/copied/stored the 1918 Influenza Virus from a Soldier's body which had been buried in the perma frost.

"We are faced with the two edged sword again. This time, using genetic technology the wrong way, will be final. What's the great fearful and dreaded...no more than by the scientific community...agent(s)? The prize goes to those guessing biological/genetic/recombinant DNA weapons.

"Genetically engineered viruses are the 'Doomsday' scenario. Why? Because, they are entirely new and virulent diseases. We've never seen them before, never been exposed to them before, never had any immunity built up to them, there are no vaccines available against them, or ever can be for the world's general public. What's worse is that engineers can take the most deadly viruses known (like bubonic plague, anthrax, and any others they have in their bags) and alter them genetically to become whole new and unknown diseases, with altogether more potent and unknown properties...and mix them into a cocktail containing many types of different modified disease organisms...a multiple warhead type of non-defensible weapon. When unleashed into the atmosphere they would be quickly spread 'around the world'. Only those few possessing vaccines against the new strains and the whole multiple cocktails and mixtures (if such vaccines could even be produced against them) would have any hope of survivability...world wide.

"But, much to their chagrin, even these select few could face eventual and unexpected death. The new viruses, separately or in their cocktails, could go on to mutate over a period of time...becoming new diseases again with no vaccines ever conceived of against them. Those who had released them in their other forms would reap their own deadly backlash. Who would even consider such a nightmarish, and no going back, attack? No need to ask. Outside of the truly crazies, the finger can always be pointed at the 'one world order bunch' out to conquer and control us and our minds at any cost.

"You can quote this but not myself...even though we both know...'They' Monitor all E-mails anyway.

Best regards,

Army Intel Officer X"

<><><><><><><><><>

in the light,

Richard Boylan, Ph.D.

[captain]

skylark, on Apr 29 2009, 02:18 PM, said:

*'Sweeps' NOTE:

…Not to be an Alarmist, but consider…that in order to accelerate the dispersal of a bio-weponized agent…that CHEMTRAILS technology could be invoked to do this! Watch the Skies folks. We know CHEMTRAIL spraying of population areas has occurred, is occurring, and can be counted on to keep occurring. If 'They' decided to include this Swine Flu/bio-engineered Virus in the SPRAY…'YEP' it would be a global 'Pandemic' alright. Get familiar with Chemtrails…go to the Forum 'Search Engine and type in Chemtrail(s), and watch/pay attention to the Video below as well. Thanks and good luck/'S'

*CLICK below on the 'My Website' Link for this short but revealing Chemtrail Video:

Visit My Website

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-Now hear this-Dr. Leonard Horowitz is recognized throughout the world as an authority on public health issues. Interesting, see how it stands the test of time. Read this & then check out the VIDEO below from the Doctor's Website-Captain

Dr. Horowitz has just released a report on his website in which he accuses Dr. James S. Robertson, of the United Kingdom, high ranking officers at the Center for Disease Control, and corporate officers at NoVavax, of complicity to commit mass murder, serial homicide and genocide.

Dr. Robertson is England's leading engineer of flu virus vaccinations, and Novovax
is a vaccine manufacturing in Maryland, USA.

According to DR. Horowitz, the members of this cabal are part of an
Anglo American Network of genetic engineers" that created the latest swine
flu virus that is currently ravaging Mexico and the world. Dr. Horowitz
also asserted in his report that "no other group IN THE WORLD is capable" of
combining the DNA of swine flu virus, with Spanish flu virus, and avian flu
virus."

So there you have it. There was never any issue that this bug was a
weapon "created" in a laboratory. Case solved. These evil mass murdering
culprits have been fingered by "an expert." But something about this report
just does not pass the smell test.

These are very serious charges. Mass murder? Genocide? One possible outcome? If this story has legs, then I would expect Dr. Johnson and Novovax et.al., to file
a lawsuit for defamation.

If the charges are false, then they must and they will, protect their professional
reputation. If they don't then Robertson, and others, can count on their careers coming to an end.

Also, there should be a raft of lawsuits filed for wrongful death. And if the charges made by Horowitz are provable beyond a reasonable doubt, then I would assume
that it is grand jury time.

The other possibility which cannot be ruled out is that this is just disinformation
to get people distracted from the real perps i.e., the real mass murderers.
What makes me suspicious is the use of the terminology "Anglo American network of genetic engineers." The other term that is suspicious is"No other group

in the world is capable of combining" these three viruses. Rubbish! And Horowitz knows this statement is rubbish.

There are a number of bio weapons labs in the world that can develop
viruses that are a product of recombinant DNA engineering.

-Now CLICK below on the 'My Website' link for the Doctor's Video:

Visit My Website

[simple simon]

captain, on May 1 2009, 07:31 PM, said:

-Now hear this-Dr. Leonard Horowitz is recognized throughout the world as an authority on public health issues. Interesting, see how it stands the test of time. Read this & then check out the VIDEO below from the Doctor's Website-Captain

Dr. Horowitz has just released a report on his website in which he accuses Dr. James S. Robertson, of the United Kingdom, high ranking officers at the Center for Disease Control, and corporate officers at NoVavax, of complicity to commit mass murder, serial homicide and genocide.

Dr. Robertson is England's leading engineer of flu virus vaccinations, and Novovax
is a vaccine manufacturing in Maryland, USA.

According to DR. Horowitz, the members of this cabal are part of an
Anglo American Network of genetic engineers" that created the latest swine
flu virus that is currently ravaging Mexico and the world. Dr. Horowitz
also asserted in his report that "no other group IN THE WORLD is capable" of
combining the DNA of swine flu virus, with Spanish flu virus, and avian flu
virus."

So there you have it. There was never any issue that this bug was a
weapon "created" in a laboratory. Case solved. These evil mass murdering
culprits have been fingered by "an expert." But something about this report
just does not pass the smell test.

These are very serious charges. Mass murder? Genocide? One possible outcome? If this story has legs, then I would expect Dr. Johnson and Novovax et.al., to file
a lawsuit for defamation.

If the charges are false, then they must and they will, protect their professional
reputation. If they don't then Robertson, and others, can count on their careers coming to an end.

Also, there should be a raft of lawsuits filed for wrongful death. And if the charges made by Horowitz are provable beyond a reasonable doubt, then I would assume
that it is grand jury time.

The other possibility which cannot be ruled out is that this is just disinformation
to get people distracted from the real perps i.e., the real mass murderers.
What makes me suspicious is the use of the terminology "Anglo American network of genetic engineers." The other term that is suspicious is"No other group

in the world is capable of combining" these three viruses. Rubbish! And Horowitz knows this statement is rubbish.

There are a number of bio weapons labs in the world that can develop
viruses that are a product of recombinant DNA engineering.

-Now CLICK below on the 'My Website' link for the Doctor's Video:

Visit My Website

we also need to remember how the drug companies and stock market depend on people being ill to generate massive profits - so would have vested interest in such a pandemic with people and governments buying massive amounts of drugs.

But why a racial illness? An experiment for another day, perhaps? I say this because so far its only the Mexicans who have actually been dying....

Simon

[simple simon]

I assume this is just a clever graphic - and not a real crop formation!



Simon

Edited by simple simon, 01 May 2009 - 09:25 PM.

[skylark]

simple simon, on May 1 2009, 10:24 PM, said:

I assume this is just a clever graphic - and not a real crop formation!



Simon

...And 'Right You Are' Simon,
This WHOLE 'Glyph/Crop Formation anomoly is such a 'Sticky Wicket' huh? Wouldn't know/hard to discern which is the phony and which is Real. Maybe we'll all get some clarification...if the phenomenon goes on long enough. Bet we took a turn off the Topic here.Take care/'S'

[skylark]

skylark, on May 2 2009, 09:31 PM, said:

...And 'Right You Are' Simon,
This WHOLE 'Glyph/Crop Formation anomoly is such a 'Sticky Wicket' huh? Wouldn't know/hard to discern which is the phony and which is Real. Maybe we'll all get some clarification...if the phenomenon goes on long enough. Bet we took a turn off the Topic here.Take care/'S'

*'Sweeps' NOTE:

…There is a quaint, but very 'Common Sense', approach to understanding the
Question… WHAT CAUSES DISEASE? Reading the passage below MIGHT just strike a cord with all you folks. Give it a try…it couldn't hurt to allow for this understanding of Disease, and how the BODY actually deals with it…without our fancy/laboratory/medical science interventions. Hmmm/'S'

'If bacteria or viruses do not cause disease, then what does? There is only
ONE cause of disease-that is overloading the body with something that should
not be there. The body will try to get rid of this excess or poison. If it
can not eliminate it fast enough through the kidneys and intestines, then it
will push it out the nose…and we call it a cold…or out the lungs (which we
call pneumonia) or out the skin (which we call acne or psoriasis) or out the
toes (which we call athlete's foot) or out the genitals (which we call
venereal disease) or it might open up a hole in the skin (which we call an
ulcer).

All acute diseases are instituted by the body, controlled by the body, and
will be terminated by the body when the body has accomplished what it
intended to do. That is, of course, as long as the person does not do
something to interfere with the healing crisis, which is what almost always
happens. The per&shy;son with the disease takes some kind of poison called a
medicine to suppress the symptoms of the disease (instead of removing the
causes), and then the body wraps the toxins in cholesterol and calcium and
plasters it on the walls of the arter&shy;ies (hardened ar&shy;teries) or it stores
it in the joints (arthritis) or it wraps a tumor around it to seal it off (cancer).
Or some system simply breaks down and can't function anymore… diabetes.

What we call an acute disease, such as colds, flu, or pneu&shy;monia, is simply
the body's natural efforts to heal itself. Medicines are designed to poison
and deaden the body's ability to heal itself. Vaccines are designed to
subvert and "fool" the body's immune system. This results in degenerative
diseases, such as cancer, arthritis, etc.

The best thing to do during a disease is often-NOTHING. Rest, don't eat,
drink pure water and let the body do its thing without your interference.
There is more, as we will see later, but just keep this in mind for now.

There are no cures. Cures do not exist. There is not one cure in the whole
world-except letting the body cure itself by pro&shy;viding the right conditions
for it to do so. You can not be poi&shy;soned into health by a drug called
medicine. You can not be poisoned into good health by an herb or a medicine
(both of which, after all, are usually quite toxic except in very small
amounts). Nothing from outside the body can be used as a cure.

Consider this: one lady had an ulcer on her leg that kept leaking "pus". Finally,
she put aloe vera on it-presto, it was healed, the ulcer disappeared! Hmmmm,
Aloe vera cured it! Or did it? Isn't it possible that the body opened the ulcer
as an emergency way of getting rid of toxins? When the aloe vera was applied, the body recognized it as a poison…it has poisons in it, such as the alka&shy;loids allantoin
or aloin- Aloin is a purified form of the drug aloes and it is usually combined with
other drugs such as bel&shy;ladonna or strychnine to curb its violent action…Aloe
Vera Heals and sealed off the ulcer to prevent the entry of more poisons. Hmmm.
Could it be that the body was worse off in the long run for the aloe vera

ap&shy;plication and moved one more step downward into degenerative diseases …such as cancer?

Cures are witchcraft dreamed up by witchdoctors and still be&shy;lieved in by
nearly everybody. The cures keep changing. George Washington had a cold
and the doctors bled him to death…at that time bleeding and leeches were
the favorite cure. Now they give you dead blood with an immune suppressant
or two in it. During the Civil War, mercury (calomel) was a fa&shy;vorite cure.

Then came radiation, penicillin, chemotherapy. Now it is gene manipulation.
They keep seeking new and "better" remedies, while all this time they have
not succeeded in conquering one single disease…although they claim to have
con&shy;quered many.

Cancer researchers have discovered that people who have a lot of colds do
not get cancer…and people who develop cancer have usually not had a cold
for over 10 years before the diagno&shy;sis.

They can not understand why this is so. The answer is simple…if you eat properly
and follow all the rules of good health, you will not have colds or cancer. But if
you eat too much or eat wrong things, your body will try to get rid of the excess
or tox&shy;ins by conducting an acute disease such as a cold. If it is suc&shy;cessful, the
body will not degenerate to the point of having can&shy;cer, arthritis, or whatever.

But if you take medicines and sup&shy;press the symptoms of the acute disease,
the body loses its abil&shy;ity to conduct acute diseases…colds, flu, measles, etc.,
and so allows degenerative diseases…cancer, arthritis, hardening of ar&shy;teries, etc.
to develop'.

[simple simon]

Thanks Sweeps,

I've heard that before, about disease. But human bodies and human awarenesses do not always speak the same language, and this lack of understanding combined with the awareness wanting things done its way are also at the root of the issue.

I wont say that I never become ill, but its not often. I also try to drink a lot, mostly water - colas etc are kept for special occasions. I am told that I should not eat bread / other foods made from wheat, but these are such staple foods that I do. I have noticed however that after eating these foods I sometimes experience the symptoms which are described as part of food intolerance of these products.

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in the meantime, re: the swine flu and the media hysteria, so what is not being reported? How is the economy doing nowadays?

What else could be happening globally which is being drowned out of the news? Sea levels OK? The web-bots disappearances happening? Crops all planted and now growing nicely?

Simon

[simple simon]

Hi Sweeps, everyone,

In the thread "TRAVELS INTO 'INNER EARTH'" it is said that people do not become ill - so is that because of being more balanced, or is there some other reason which explains how illness is prevented? If one of their bodies wants to vent toxins, then how does it do this, if not through illness?

Simon

[captain]

simple simon, on May 3 2009, 11:14 PM, said:

Hi Sweeps, everyone,

In the thread "TRAVELS INTO 'INNER EARTH'" it is said that people do not become ill - so is that because of being more balanced, or is there some other reason which explains how illness is prevented? If one of their bodies wants to vent toxins, then how does it do this, if not through illness?

Simon

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