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[skylark]

TRUTH ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING- VIDEO

-THE WORLD WIDE SCAM THAT TRAPS US IN IGNORANCE/CONTROL-

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
...There's a new video out on the 'Truth about Global Warming'
It should inform us all abut the falsehoods and real 'pitfalls' of 'buying in to' the 'Global Warming' agendas. The Video presents the real/salient facts that most scientists are now agreeing to. Consider this a 'Must Watch'…if you are confused on the subject, and especially if you have already sided with the 'Warming' bunch of Con artists/political flunkies/et al who have betrayed—misrepresented the real facts. Thanks/'S'

*CLICK below on 'My Website' for this special on 'The Global Warming' SCAM Video:

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**Also check out just one of 'Our Forum Topics' on The Global Warming Lies-below/'S':

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[skylark]

skylark, on Aug 19 2009, 10:57 PM, said:

TRUTH ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING- VIDEO

-THE WORLD WIDE SCAM THAT TRAPS US IN IGNORANCE/CONTROL-

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
...There's a new video out on the 'Truth about Global Warming'
It should inform us all abut the falsehoods and real 'pitfalls' of 'buying in to' the 'Global Warming' agendas. The Video presents the real/salient facts that most scientists are now agreeing to. Consider this a 'Must Watch'…if you are confused on the subject, and especially if you have already sided with the 'Warming' bunch of Con artists/political flunkies/et al who have betrayed—misrepresented the real facts. Thanks/'S'

*CLICK below on 'My Website' for this special on 'The Global Warming' SCAM Video:

Visit My Website

**Also check out just one of 'Our Forum Topics' on The Global Warming Lies-below/'S':

Visit My Website

*OK Folks,
...Want REALLY to know about the 'CAP AND TRADE'/Global Warming/Climate Change NONSENSE, and how it will effect YOU? Check out David Icke's LATEST NEWSLETTER PREVIEW....Below. Thanks/'S'

The cap-and-trade system, so beloved of Barack Obama, and so profitable for Al Gore, will cost families thousands of dollars a year when all the consequences are taken into account. The architects of the system, meanwhile, will make still greater fortunes.

One of the main tasks that Obama has been set by the cabal is to sell the lie of human-caused 'climate change' and all the long-prepared 'solutions' just waiting to be signed into law. He and his handlers are targeting the public in general, and children and young people in particular, to demand 'action on climate change' and marginalise anyone who even questions the lie.

Obama is introducing a carbon cap-and-trade system that he has admitted would make electricity prices 'necessarily skyrocket'. The bloodline-owned energy corporations don't want to make more money, though. No, no, they just want to save the planet, bless 'em.

Cap-and-trade is a system by which governments set the limits of carbon emissions and issue permits to companies for their maximum allowance or 'credit', but if they need to produce more than their allowance they can buy more credits from other companies that produce less than their maximum.

It is just another way for the few to make yet more money, impose more government control of economic and human activity, and make it still harder for people to pay their bills. This is not about protecting the planet, it is about control, and they are forcing it upon the people in the most despicable ways.

Democratic Senator Timothy Wirth, former climate change negotiator for Bill Clinton, said this week that cap and trade is 'out of control' and makes no sense whatsoever. Well, it doesn't unless you know what the real game is. Wirth told Bloomberg that cap and trade was a 'cap and tax' bill and he's right - plus alot more.

[captain]

skylark, on Aug 23 2009, 12:33 AM, said:

*OK Folks,
...Want REALLY to know about the 'CAP AND TRADE'/Global Warming/Climate Change NONSENSE, and how it will effect YOU? Check out David Icke's LATEST NEWSLETTER PREVIEW....Below. Thanks/'S'

The cap-and-trade system, so beloved of Barack Obama, and so profitable for Al Gore, will cost families thousands of dollars a year when all the consequences are taken into account. The architects of the system, meanwhile, will make still greater fortunes.

One of the main tasks that Obama has been set by the cabal is to sell the lie of human-caused 'climate change' and all the long-prepared 'solutions' just waiting to be signed into law. He and his handlers are targeting the public in general, and children and young people in particular, to demand 'action on climate change' and marginalise anyone who even questions the lie.

Obama is introducing a carbon cap-and-trade system that he has admitted would make electricity prices 'necessarily skyrocket'. The bloodline-owned energy corporations don't want to make more money, though. No, no, they just want to save the planet, bless 'em.

Cap-and-trade is a system by which governments set the limits of carbon emissions and issue permits to companies for their maximum allowance or 'credit', but if they need to produce more than their allowance they can buy more credits from other companies that produce less than their maximum.

It is just another way for the few to make yet more money, impose more government control of economic and human activity, and make it still harder for people to pay their bills. This is not about protecting the planet, it is about control, and they are forcing it upon the people in the most despicable ways.

Democratic Senator Timothy Wirth, former climate change negotiator for Bill Clinton, said this week that cap and trade is 'out of control' and makes no sense whatsoever. Well, it doesn't unless you know what the real game is. Wirth told Bloomberg that cap and trade was a 'cap and tax' bill and he's right - plus alot more.

-All of that Sweeps-YES,
-AND, ONE OF AUSTRALIA'S 'CHIEF SCIENTISTS' in this Field is warning about the LIES and hidden agendas in 'The Global Warming' nonsense. See the link for that MAJOR Article below. Thanks-Captain

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[Yaeger]

From the Irish Examiner

This yet another example how the 'Global Warming' lie is used as excuse by the government to impose even more and higher taxation on the people. Al Gore must be laughing all the way to the bank!

> Irish Examiner, Tuesday, September 8, 2009
> Road tolls and congestion charges proposed
> By Paul O'Brien
> Tuesday, September 08, 2009
> IN addition to paying more for fuel, motorists would also be hit with
> new road tolls and congestion charges, if the report's recommendations
> were implemented in full.
> The commission wants vehicle registration tax – the once-off charge
> which applies to new and used imported vehicles – phased out over a
> 10-year period. In its place, the commission is recommending a
> "restructured" tax system for motor transport which would be more
> environmentally-friendly.
> Under this new system, those who use their cars more would pay more.
> Hence, the tax on registration would be replaced by a "tax on motor
> usage," comprising two elements.
> The first is increased fuel charges, including the proposed carbon tax.
> The second is "road pricing", which would include congestion charges.
> The commission said the purpose of road pricing would be to "provide
> incentives to road users to use road capacity more efficiently". Fees
> would be levied per kilometre according to factors such as time of day,
> location, distance travelled, or vehicle type.
> "Experience in other countries suggests that a long lead-in time, with
> extensive consultation, is key to the successful implementation of road
> pricing," the commission said.
> Congestion charges, to promote the shift from personal car transport to
> public transport, would form part of the pricing plan. "Schemes in
> London and Stockholm have been successful. The London charge reduced
> congestion by 30% and traffic levels by 18% when it was introduced. The
> Stockholm charge reduced weekday traffic by 22% and emissions by 12%.
> "Adequate preparation and the availability of public transport
> alternatives are generally seen as key issues in relation to the success
> of congestion charge initiatives."
> The commission said it also supported "targeted measures" aimed at
> reducing the usage of environmentally-damaging cars, and said
> consideration should be given to a scrappage scheme in this context:
> incentives would be given to motorists who traded in cars over 10 years
> old against low-emission, environmentally-friendly new cars.
>
>
>
> http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/road-...l#ixzz0QVQ7OEJz
>

[Yaeger]

Those government thugs keep milking the "man-made climate change" cow, according to article below. A lot of hype, scare-mongering and paranoia, but scientific facts are sadly missing as usual. Same old rhetoric to justify higher taxation and more loss of civil rights in the name of "saving the planet".

And by the way, maybe somebody should contact Brian 'Fatty Arbuckle' Cowen and tell him that the term "Global Warming" is no longer hip among the New World Order gang. It didn't happen as Al Gore predicted, in fact the earth got colder instead of warmer. As a face-saving exercise the former "global warming" apostles came up with "global climate change" as new catch-phrase to sell the same old lies. But then, our 'Fatty' was always a bit slow on the uptake.......!

MM


Obama warns of 'irreversible catastrophe' for climate

LARA MARLOWE in New York
WORLD LEADERS have attempted to inject a sense of urgency into negotiations for a global climate change agreement.

"We risk consigning future generations to an irreversible catastrophe," President Barack Obama told 190 heads of state and government who convened at the United Nations on the eve of the opening of the General Assembly.

UN secretary general Ban Ki- moon said: "This is the largest-ever meeting of world leaders on climate change. Now is the moment to act. We will soon reach the critical threshold, the consequences of which cannot be reversed. We have less than 10 years to avoid the worst-case scenario . . . The Arctic will be nearly ice-free by late 2030."

Yesterday's summit was intended to increase the chances of reaching an agreement at the Copenhagen conference in December, to replace the Kyoto Protocol which expires in 2012. "There are only 15 negotiating days left until Copenhagen," Mr Ban warned.

Meanwhile, the Chinese president Hu Jintao did not fulfil a UN official's predictions that China would suddenly become a champion of the fight against global warming.

Mr Hu spoke in platitudes and stressed the need for developed countries to understand developing countries. China and India are often portrayed as the villains of the global warming crisis.

Dr Rajendra Pachauri, the scientist who chairs the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, said the "warming of the climate system is unequivocal". Due to melting ice and thermal expansion, sea levels rose 17cm in the 20th century, putting small ocean nations like the Maldives Islands "barely a metre or two above sea level".

In what was perhaps the most powerful speech of the day, the young president of the Maldives, Mohamed Nasheed, warned the assembly: "Unless you act quickly and decisively, our homeland and others like it will disappear beneath the rising sea before the end of this century. We ask you: what will become of us?"

Following the morning's speeches, Taoiseach Brian Cowen said: "We have to find a way to stop global warming or else we put at risk the survival of this planet.

He made what one of his aides called "a very strong and passionate" unscheduled intervention in a closed-door round-table meeting, arguing that now was "a defining moment for the UN" and "the time for action".

Mr Cowen told journalists that a tax on carbon fuels was "an issue for consideration in the context of the next budget", adding that "a low carbon economy is a lot more than just about a carbon tax".

Asked whether the Irish would have to pay out of their pockets to fight global warming, Mr Cowen said: "Yes, there will of course be impacts in the short term, but the cost of inactivity is far greater."

The summit was imbued with a sense of gravity with Mr Obama, Mr Ban and Mr Cowen all saying its participants would be judged by history.

Mr Obama used the same arguments – the world's best interest and urgency – in dealing with the other big event of the day: the first trilateral meeting of the US president with Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas.

In his headquarters at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel, Mr Obama spent two hours with the Middle Eastern protagonists, first individually, then all three together. Senator George Mitchell, the US special envoy to the Middle East, called the talks "direct and constructive" and said the "tone was positive and determined".

Alluding to his role in the conclusion of the Belfast Agreement, Mr Mitchell said: "Based on past experience, I believe deeply that just as conflicts are created by human beings, they can be ended by human beings . . . We knew this wasn't going to be easy."

This article appears in the print edition of the Irish Times



Taoiseach warns of costs in climate change battle
By Shaun Connolly, Political Correspondent

Wednesday, September 23, 2009

IRISH families will have to pay more in order to bring climate change under control, Taoiseach Brian Cowen has warned as China signalled new momentum in the battle to combat green house gasses.


Global warming dominated a special meeting of the United Nations general assembly as Mr Cowen and more than 100 other heads of government gathered to try and break the deadlock on cutting carbon emissions.

With China now the biggest polluter in the world, Chinese President Hu Jintao pledged to set targets for reducing his country's emissions for the first time, but western nations expressed disappointment he did not specify numbers.

However, the move was seen as hopeful ahead of crunch negotiations in Copenhagen this December intended to put in place a global reduction schedule to replace the Kyoto protocol.

Mr Cowen stressed major progress was needed to clinch a deal on climate change, but made it clear he believed there would be "short term" economic effects on the pockets of Irish consumers as we moved to a more low carbon economy.

"Yes, of course there will be impacts in the short term, but the cost of doing nothing, the cost of inaction is far greater. Indeed those who talk about the need to take decisions now, point to the fact that these in fact can become the drivers of growth in the future," he said.

With a carbon tax expected in the December budget, Mr Cowen insisted Ireland was doing its bit to bring down emissions, despite its efforts being derided as poor by some environmentalists when compared with other European countries.

The Taoiseach again said he backed EU ambitions to cut carbon emissions by 30% by 2020. "Unless we take such decisions then we face the prospect of irreversible changes that will greatly militate against the future health and survival of this planet. This is a fundamental question after 150 years of industrial revolution."

The Chinese move was seen as a move in the right direction ahead of getting progress in Copenhagen as Mr Hu said the economic super power would curb its carbon emissions per unit of gross domestic product, a measure also known as carbon intensity, by a "notable margin" by 2020 from the 2005 level.

US President Barack Obama, meanwhile, admitted America, the planet's other main polluter, had been slow to act, but promised a "new era" of promoting clean energy and reducing CO2 pollution.

China and the US each account for about 20% of the world's greenhouse gas pollution from coal, natural gas and oil, with the European Union responsible for 14%, followed by Russia and India with 5% each.

The Copenhagen negotiations are intended to agree a way to prevent a global temperature rise of more than 2C above present temperatures by limiting emissions.


This story appeared in the printed version of the Irish Examiner Wednesday, September 23, 2009

Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/taois...l#ixzz0Rub3HGQv

[skylark]

Yaeger, on Sep 23 2009, 11:57 AM, said:

Those government thugs keep milking the "man-made climate change" cow, according to article below. A lot of hype, scare-mongering and paranoia, but scientific facts are sadly missing as usual. Same old rhetoric to justify higher taxation and more loss of civil rights in the name of "saving the planet".

And by the way, maybe somebody should contact Brian 'Fatty Arbuckle' Cowen and tell him that the term "Global Warming" is no longer hip among the New World Order gang. It didn't happen as Al Gore predicted, in fact the earth got colder instead of warmer. As a face-saving exercise the former "global warming" apostles came up with "global climate change" as new catch-phrase to sell the same old lies. But then, our 'Fatty' was always a bit slow on the uptake.......!

MM


Obama warns of 'irreversible catastrophe' for climate

LARA MARLOWE in New York
WORLD LEADERS have attempted to inject a sense of urgency into negotiations for a global climate change agreement.

"We risk consigning future generations to an irreversible catastrophe," President Barack Obama told 190 heads of state and government who convened at the United Nations on the eve of the opening of the General Assembly.

UN secretary general Ban Ki- moon said: "This is the largest-ever meeting of world leaders on climate change. Now is the moment to act. We will soon reach the critical threshold, the consequences of which cannot be reversed. We have less than 10 years to avoid the worst-case scenario . . . The Arctic will be nearly ice-free by late 2030."

Yesterday's summit was intended to increase the chances of reaching an agreement at the Copenhagen conference in December, to replace the Kyoto Protocol which expires in 2012. "There are only 15 negotiating days left until Copenhagen," Mr Ban warned.

Meanwhile, the Chinese president Hu Jintao did not fulfil a UN official's predictions that China would suddenly become a champion of the fight against global warming.

Mr Hu spoke in platitudes and stressed the need for developed countries to understand developing countries. China and India are often portrayed as the villains of the global warming crisis.

Dr Rajendra Pachauri, the scientist who chairs the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, said the "warming of the climate system is unequivocal". Due to melting ice and thermal expansion, sea levels rose 17cm in the 20th century, putting small ocean nations like the Maldives Islands "barely a metre or two above sea level".

In what was perhaps the most powerful speech of the day, the young president of the Maldives, Mohamed Nasheed, warned the assembly: "Unless you act quickly and decisively, our homeland and others like it will disappear beneath the rising sea before the end of this century. We ask you: what will become of us?"

Following the morning's speeches, Taoiseach Brian Cowen said: "We have to find a way to stop global warming or else we put at risk the survival of this planet.

He made what one of his aides called "a very strong and passionate" unscheduled intervention in a closed-door round-table meeting, arguing that now was "a defining moment for the UN" and "the time for action".

Mr Cowen told journalists that a tax on carbon fuels was "an issue for consideration in the context of the next budget", adding that "a low carbon economy is a lot more than just about a carbon tax".

Asked whether the Irish would have to pay out of their pockets to fight global warming, Mr Cowen said: "Yes, there will of course be impacts in the short term, but the cost of inactivity is far greater."

The summit was imbued with a sense of gravity with Mr Obama, Mr Ban and Mr Cowen all saying its participants would be judged by history.

Mr Obama used the same arguments – the world's best interest and urgency – in dealing with the other big event of the day: the first trilateral meeting of the US president with Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas.

In his headquarters at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel, Mr Obama spent two hours with the Middle Eastern protagonists, first individually, then all three together. Senator George Mitchell, the US special envoy to the Middle East, called the talks "direct and constructive" and said the "tone was positive and determined".

Alluding to his role in the conclusion of the Belfast Agreement, Mr Mitchell said: "Based on past experience, I believe deeply that just as conflicts are created by human beings, they can be ended by human beings . . . We knew this wasn't going to be easy."

This article appears in the print edition of the Irish Times



Taoiseach warns of costs in climate change battle
By Shaun Connolly, Political Correspondent

Wednesday, September 23, 2009

IRISH families will have to pay more in order to bring climate change under control, Taoiseach Brian Cowen has warned as China signalled new momentum in the battle to combat green house gasses.


Global warming dominated a special meeting of the United Nations general assembly as Mr Cowen and more than 100 other heads of government gathered to try and break the deadlock on cutting carbon emissions.

With China now the biggest polluter in the world, Chinese President Hu Jintao pledged to set targets for reducing his country's emissions for the first time, but western nations expressed disappointment he did not specify numbers.

However, the move was seen as hopeful ahead of crunch negotiations in Copenhagen this December intended to put in place a global reduction schedule to replace the Kyoto protocol.

Mr Cowen stressed major progress was needed to clinch a deal on climate change, but made it clear he believed there would be "short term" economic effects on the pockets of Irish consumers as we moved to a more low carbon economy.

"Yes, of course there will be impacts in the short term, but the cost of doing nothing, the cost of inaction is far greater. Indeed those who talk about the need to take decisions now, point to the fact that these in fact can become the drivers of growth in the future," he said.

With a carbon tax expected in the December budget, Mr Cowen insisted Ireland was doing its bit to bring down emissions, despite its efforts being derided as poor by some environmentalists when compared with other European countries.

The Taoiseach again said he backed EU ambitions to cut carbon emissions by 30% by 2020. "Unless we take such decisions then we face the prospect of irreversible changes that will greatly militate against the future health and survival of this planet. This is a fundamental question after 150 years of industrial revolution."

The Chinese move was seen as a move in the right direction ahead of getting progress in Copenhagen as Mr Hu said the economic super power would curb its carbon emissions per unit of gross domestic product, a measure also known as carbon intensity, by a "notable margin" by 2020 from the 2005 level.

US President Barack Obama, meanwhile, admitted America, the planet's other main polluter, had been slow to act, but promised a "new era" of promoting clean energy and reducing CO2 pollution.

China and the US each account for about 20% of the world's greenhouse gas pollution from coal, natural gas and oil, with the European Union responsible for 14%, followed by Russia and India with 5% each.

The Copenhagen negotiations are intended to agree a way to prevent a global temperature rise of more than 2C above present temperatures by limiting emissions.


This story appeared in the printed version of the Irish Examiner Wednesday, September 23, 2009

Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/taois...l#ixzz0Rub3HGQv

*Got that right Yaeger,
...Just CONFIRMATION/'goes to show you',that both the Taoiseach and Obama are both 'in bed' with the 'Globalist Elite' hoodwinking us all with their controlled Media hype. Well, said that on the 'Lisbon Treaty Talk' Radio show recently/'S'

[skylark]

Yaeger, on Sep 23 2009, 11:57 AM, said:

Those government thugs keep milking the "man-made climate change" cow, according to article below. A lot of hype, scare-mongering and paranoia, but scientific facts are sadly missing as usual. Same old rhetoric to justify higher taxation and more loss of civil rights in the name of "saving the planet".

And by the way, maybe somebody should contact Brian 'Fatty Arbuckle' Cowen and tell him that the term "Global Warming" is no longer hip among the New World Order gang. It didn't happen as Al Gore predicted, in fact the earth got colder instead of warmer. As a face-saving exercise the former "global warming" apostles came up with "global climate change" as new catch-phrase to sell the same old lies. But then, our 'Fatty' was always a bit slow on the uptake.......!

MM


Obama warns of 'irreversible catastrophe' for climate

LARA MARLOWE in New York
WORLD LEADERS have attempted to inject a sense of urgency into negotiations for a global climate change agreement.

"We risk consigning future generations to an irreversible catastrophe," President Barack Obama told 190 heads of state and government who convened at the United Nations on the eve of the opening of the General Assembly.

UN secretary general Ban Ki- moon said: "This is the largest-ever meeting of world leaders on climate change. Now is the moment to act. We will soon reach the critical threshold, the consequences of which cannot be reversed. We have less than 10 years to avoid the worst-case scenario . . . The Arctic will be nearly ice-free by late 2030."

Yesterday's summit was intended to increase the chances of reaching an agreement at the Copenhagen conference in December, to replace the Kyoto Protocol which expires in 2012. "There are only 15 negotiating days left until Copenhagen," Mr Ban warned.

Meanwhile, the Chinese president Hu Jintao did not fulfil a UN official's predictions that China would suddenly become a champion of the fight against global warming.

Mr Hu spoke in platitudes and stressed the need for developed countries to understand developing countries. China and India are often portrayed as the villains of the global warming crisis.

Dr Rajendra Pachauri, the scientist who chairs the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, said the "warming of the climate system is unequivocal". Due to melting ice and thermal expansion, sea levels rose 17cm in the 20th century, putting small ocean nations like the Maldives Islands "barely a metre or two above sea level".

In what was perhaps the most powerful speech of the day, the young president of the Maldives, Mohamed Nasheed, warned the assembly: "Unless you act quickly and decisively, our homeland and others like it will disappear beneath the rising sea before the end of this century. We ask you: what will become of us?"

Following the morning's speeches, Taoiseach Brian Cowen said: "We have to find a way to stop global warming or else we put at risk the survival of this planet.

He made what one of his aides called "a very strong and passionate" unscheduled intervention in a closed-door round-table meeting, arguing that now was "a defining moment for the UN" and "the time for action".

Mr Cowen told journalists that a tax on carbon fuels was "an issue for consideration in the context of the next budget", adding that "a low carbon economy is a lot more than just about a carbon tax".

Asked whether the Irish would have to pay out of their pockets to fight global warming, Mr Cowen said: "Yes, there will of course be impacts in the short term, but the cost of inactivity is far greater."

The summit was imbued with a sense of gravity with Mr Obama, Mr Ban and Mr Cowen all saying its participants would be judged by history.

Mr Obama used the same arguments – the world's best interest and urgency – in dealing with the other big event of the day: the first trilateral meeting of the US president with Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas.

In his headquarters at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel, Mr Obama spent two hours with the Middle Eastern protagonists, first individually, then all three together. Senator George Mitchell, the US special envoy to the Middle East, called the talks "direct and constructive" and said the "tone was positive and determined".

Alluding to his role in the conclusion of the Belfast Agreement, Mr Mitchell said: "Based on past experience, I believe deeply that just as conflicts are created by human beings, they can be ended by human beings . . . We knew this wasn't going to be easy."

This article appears in the print edition of the Irish Times



Taoiseach warns of costs in climate change battle
By Shaun Connolly, Political Correspondent

Wednesday, September 23, 2009

IRISH families will have to pay more in order to bring climate change under control, Taoiseach Brian Cowen has warned as China signalled new momentum in the battle to combat green house gasses.


Global warming dominated a special meeting of the United Nations general assembly as Mr Cowen and more than 100 other heads of government gathered to try and break the deadlock on cutting carbon emissions.

With China now the biggest polluter in the world, Chinese President Hu Jintao pledged to set targets for reducing his country's emissions for the first time, but western nations expressed disappointment he did not specify numbers.

However, the move was seen as hopeful ahead of crunch negotiations in Copenhagen this December intended to put in place a global reduction schedule to replace the Kyoto protocol.

Mr Cowen stressed major progress was needed to clinch a deal on climate change, but made it clear he believed there would be "short term" economic effects on the pockets of Irish consumers as we moved to a more low carbon economy.

"Yes, of course there will be impacts in the short term, but the cost of doing nothing, the cost of inaction is far greater. Indeed those who talk about the need to take decisions now, point to the fact that these in fact can become the drivers of growth in the future," he said.

With a carbon tax expected in the December budget, Mr Cowen insisted Ireland was doing its bit to bring down emissions, despite its efforts being derided as poor by some environmentalists when compared with other European countries.

The Taoiseach again said he backed EU ambitions to cut carbon emissions by 30% by 2020. "Unless we take such decisions then we face the prospect of irreversible changes that will greatly militate against the future health and survival of this planet. This is a fundamental question after 150 years of industrial revolution."

The Chinese move was seen as a move in the right direction ahead of getting progress in Copenhagen as Mr Hu said the economic super power would curb its carbon emissions per unit of gross domestic product, a measure also known as carbon intensity, by a "notable margin" by 2020 from the 2005 level.

US President Barack Obama, meanwhile, admitted America, the planet's other main polluter, had been slow to act, but promised a "new era" of promoting clean energy and reducing CO2 pollution.

China and the US each account for about 20% of the world's greenhouse gas pollution from coal, natural gas and oil, with the European Union responsible for 14%, followed by Russia and India with 5% each.

The Copenhagen negotiations are intended to agree a way to prevent a global temperature rise of more than 2C above present temperatures by limiting emissions.


This story appeared in the printed version of the Irish Examiner Wednesday, September 23, 2009

Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/taois...l#ixzz0Rub3HGQv

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…Guess this comes under the heading, 'What's happened to Global Warming'?
If you 'guessed'/know that Climate Change HAS NOTHING TO DUE WITH HUMAN ACTIIVY, you won't be disappointed. But read on below, discover just how wrong the SCAMERS ARE about 'The Climate'. Of course…it's all a Political/Control agenda by the 'New World Order'/Globalists. Time to get you weapons folks/'S'

This headline may come as a bit of a surprise, so too might that fact that the warmest year recorded globally was not in 2008 or 2007, but in 1998.

But it is true. For the last 11 years we have not observed any increase in global temperatures.

And our climate models did not forecast it, even though man-made carbon dioxide, the gas thought to be responsible for warming our planet, has continued to rise.

So what on Earth is going on?

Climate change sceptics, who passionately and consistently argue that man's influence on our climate is overstated, say they saw it coming.

They argue that there are natural cycles, over which we have no control, that dictate how warm the planet is. But what is the evidence for this?

During the last few decades of the 20th Century, our planet did warm quickly.

Sceptics argue that the warming we observed was down to the energy from the Sun increasing. After all 98% of the Earth's warmth comes from the Sun.

But research conducted two years ago, and published by the Royal Society, seemed to rule out solar influences.

The scientists' main approach was simple: to look at solar output and cosmic ray intensity over the last 30-40 years, and compare those trends with the graph for global average surface temperature.
And the results were clear. 'Warming in the last 20 to 40 years can't have been caused by solar activity', said Dr Piers Forster from Leeds University, a leading contributor to this year's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

But one solar scientist Piers Corbyn from Weatheraction, a company specialising in long range weather forecasting, disagrees.

He claims that solar charged particles impact us far more than is currently accepted, so much so he says that they are almost entirely responsible for what happens to global temperatures.

He is so excited by what he has discovered that he plans to tell the international scientific community at a conference in London at the end of the month.

If proved correct, this could revolutionise the whole subject. Ocean cycles

What is really interesting at the moment is what is happening to our oceans. They are the Earth's great heat stores.

According to research conducted by Professor Don Easterbrook from Western Washington University last November, the oceans and global temperatures are correlated.

The oceans, he says, have a cycle in which they warm and cool cyclically. The most important one is the Pacific decadal oscillation (PDO).

For much of the 1980s and 1990s, it was in a positive cycle, that means warmer than average. And observations have revealed that global temperatures were warm too.

But in the last few years it has been losing its warmth and has recently started to cool down. These cycles in the past have lasted for nearly 30 years.

So could global temperatures follow? The global cooling from 1945 to 1977 coincided with one of these cold Pacific cycles.

Professor Easterbrook says: 'The PDO cool mode has replaced the warm mode in the Pacific Ocean, virtually assuring us of about 30 years of global cooling'.

So what does it all mean? Climate change sceptics argue that this is evidence that they have been right all along.

They say there are so many other natural causes for warming and cooling, that even if man is warming the planet, it is a small part compared with nature.

But those scientists who are equally passionate about man's influence on global warming argue that their science is solid.

The UK Met Office's Hadley Centre, responsible for future climate predictions, says it incorporates solar variation and ocean cycles into its climate models, and that they are nothing new.

In fact, the centre says they are just two of the whole host of known factors that influence global temperatures…all of which are accounted for by its models.

In addition, say Met Office scientists, temperatures have never increased in a straight line, and there will always be periods of slower warming, or even temporary cooling.

What is crucial, they say, is the long-term trend in global temperatures. And that, according to the Met office data, is clearly up.

To confuse the issue even further, last month Mojib Latif, a member of the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) says that we may indeed be in a period of cooling worldwide temperatures that could last another 10-20 years.

[skylark]

Yaeger, on Sep 8 2009, 08:07 PM, said:

From the Irish Examiner

This yet another example how the 'Global Warming' lie is used as excuse by the government to impose even more and higher taxation on the people. Al Gore must be laughing all the way to the bank!

> Irish Examiner, Tuesday, September 8, 2009
> Road tolls and congestion charges proposed
> By Paul O'Brien
> Tuesday, September 08, 2009
> IN addition to paying more for fuel, motorists would also be hit with
> new road tolls and congestion charges, if the report's recommendations
> were implemented in full.
> The commission wants vehicle registration tax – the once-off charge
> which applies to new and used imported vehicles – phased out over a
> 10-year period. In its place, the commission is recommending a
> "restructured" tax system for motor transport which would be more
> environmentally-friendly.
> Under this new system, those who use their cars more would pay more.
> Hence, the tax on registration would be replaced by a "tax on motor
> usage," comprising two elements.
> The first is increased fuel charges, including the proposed carbon tax.
> The second is "road pricing", which would include congestion charges.
> The commission said the purpose of road pricing would be to "provide
> incentives to road users to use road capacity more efficiently". Fees
> would be levied per kilometre according to factors such as time of day,
> location, distance travelled, or vehicle type.
> "Experience in other countries suggests that a long lead-in time, with
> extensive consultation, is key to the successful implementation of road
> pricing," the commission said.
> Congestion charges, to promote the shift from personal car transport to
> public transport, would form part of the pricing plan. "Schemes in
> London and Stockholm have been successful. The London charge reduced
> congestion by 30% and traffic levels by 18% when it was introduced. The
> Stockholm charge reduced weekday traffic by 22% and emissions by 12%.
> "Adequate preparation and the availability of public transport
> alternatives are generally seen as key issues in relation to the success
> of congestion charge initiatives."
> The commission said it also supported "targeted measures" aimed at
> reducing the usage of environmentally-damaging cars, and said
> consideration should be given to a scrappage scheme in this context:
> incentives would be given to motorists who traded in cars over 10 years
> old against low-emission, environmentally-friendly new cars.
>
>
>
> http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/road-...l#ixzz0QVQ7OEJz
>

**New FILM out Yaeger and All...It's a MAJOR ANTI-GLOBAL WARMING MOVIE. Great to see. Al Gore and his flunkies...get their comeupence. About time too folks. Get on the bandwagon.

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
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[Yaeger]

skylark, on Oct 18 2009, 10:56 PM, said:

**New FILM out Yaeger and All...It's a MAJOR ANTI-GLOBAL WARMING MOVIE. Great to see. Al Gore and his flunkies...get their comeupence. About time too folks. Get on the bandwagon.

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
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Finally somebody talking some sense here/Yaeger

[simple simon]

This was in Sunday's newspaper... hmm, evidence that climate change means global cooling - and not warming? Christopher Booker is someone who does his own research rather than simply follow the crowd.

(edited highlights below)

Simon

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columni...reality....html

Meanwhile, back in cold reality...
For the third year running there are signs of an abnormally hard winter in many parts of the world, says Christopher Booker.

By Christopher Booker
Published: 6:18PM BST 17 Oct 2009

Comments 124 | Comment on this article

Not many people in Britain were aware, I suspect, that 20 per cent of the entire United States was last week covered in snow, the greatest October snow cover the country had known for years (for details see the Watts Up With That website). Similarly unseasonable snowfalls blanketed central Europe and the Alps. Freak October snows caused traffic chaos in New Zealand. Hundreds of Tibetan herdsmen had to be rescued when blizzards swept their summer pastures weeks early.

This is now the third year running when there have been signs of an abnormally cold winter across large parts of the world. Last year's October snowfalls in the US broke records which in some cases had stood for over a century, prefacing one of America's coldest winters for decades. This summer's Arctic ice-melt stopped nearly 1 million square kilometres short of its record low in 2007. Around Antarctica this year's sea ice-melt was the lowest recorded since satellite data began in 1979, leaving the ice 30 per cent above its 30-year average.

What a startling contrast is provided by all these events in the real world to the ever more surreal frenzy of the warmists as – with only weeks to go before their doomed Copenhagen treaty conference in December – they make a last desperate bid to keep climate change hysteria at fever pitch.

<snip>

[skylark]

simple simon, on Oct 19 2009, 09:23 PM, said:

This was in Sunday's newspaper... hmm, evidence that climate change means global cooling - and not warming? Christopher Booker is someone who does his own research rather than simply follow the crowd.

(edited highlights below)

Simon

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columni...reality....html

Meanwhile, back in cold reality...
For the third year running there are signs of an abnormally hard winter in many parts of the world, says Christopher Booker.

By Christopher Booker
Published: 6:18PM BST 17 Oct 2009

Comments 124 | Comment on this article

Not many people in Britain were aware, I suspect, that 20 per cent of the entire United States was last week covered in snow, the greatest October snow cover the country had known for years (for details see the Watts Up With That website). Similarly unseasonable snowfalls blanketed central Europe and the Alps. Freak October snows caused traffic chaos in New Zealand. Hundreds of Tibetan herdsmen had to be rescued when blizzards swept their summer pastures weeks early.

This is now the third year running when there have been signs of an abnormally cold winter across large parts of the world. Last year's October snowfalls in the US broke records which in some cases had stood for over a century, prefacing one of America's coldest winters for decades. This summer's Arctic ice-melt stopped nearly 1 million square kilometres short of its record low in 2007. Around Antarctica this year's sea ice-melt was the lowest recorded since satellite data began in 1979, leaving the ice 30 per cent above its 30-year average.

What a startling contrast is provided by all these events in the real world to the ever more surreal frenzy of the warmists as – with only weeks to go before their doomed Copenhagen treaty conference in December – they make a last desperate bid to keep climate change hysteria at fever pitch.

<snip>

*Too bad it's getting COLDER instead of Warmer Simon...since the 'Climate Scam people' want to take away our RIGHT to burn Turf/Coal/other fossil fuels. Amazing that folks are still falling for this and not taking action/'S'

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…Yo Simon and all. Below is an E-mail from a friend…expresses a good, worthy to note here, summing up on Al Gore and the 'Warming' nonsense. There is also a Link below with the Story on 'Gore'. Help us all huh? Do take NOTE…that people in the 'Warming' scam, ARE making money…probably the BIG reason for continuing this False/insidious control over the rest of us folks. Get your guns/'S'


The Fox news story above adds a little more to this story. The TRUTH is Al
Gore could care less about the environment, it is all about money. Just
look at his 20,000 sq ft house. People who know him personally realize that
he is a joke. He has made many millions on the "go green" agenda. I care
about the Earth socially and physically much more than the average person
seems to. But I don't "go green". I simply use good judgment in purchases.
I try to be responsible by not buying something new just because something
new" is available. I try not to waste food by buying more or preparing more
than I need. I do not have a compulsion to keep up with the Joneses. I do
not have a compulsion to "just buy" to make me feel better about myself. I
just try to be conscientious and responsible. There are a lot of "go green"
products that make sense and a lot that do not. People are discarding a lot
of wonderful and still useful items in order to "buy into" all this nonsense
The landfills are obscene. Meanwhile, the Al Gore crowd is making tons of
money while everyone else is sinking further into debt.


*CLICK below for the STORY Link:

Visit My Website

[skylark]

skylark, on Oct 20 2009, 03:08 PM, said:

*Too bad it's getting COLDER instead of Warmer Simon...since the 'Climate Scam people' want to take away our RIGHT to burn Turf/Coal/other fossil fuels. Amazing that folks are still falling for this and not taking action/'S'

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…Yo Simon and all. Below is an E-mail from a friend…expresses a good, worthy to note here, summing up on Al Gore and the 'Warming' nonsense. There is also a Link below with the Story on 'Gore'. Help us all huh? Do take NOTE…that people in the 'Warming' scam, ARE making money…probably the BIG reason for continuing this False/insidious control over the rest of us folks. Get your guns/'S'


The Fox news story above adds a little more to this story. The TRUTH is Al
Gore could care less about the environment, it is all about money. Just
look at his 20,000 sq ft house. People who know him personally realize that
he is a joke. He has made many millions on the "go green" agenda. I care
about the Earth socially and physically much more than the average person
seems to. But I don't "go green". I simply use good judgment in purchases.
I try to be responsible by not buying something new just because something
new" is available. I try not to waste food by buying more or preparing more
than I need. I do not have a compulsion to keep up with the Joneses. I do
not have a compulsion to "just buy" to make me feel better about myself. I
just try to be conscientious and responsible. There are a lot of "go green"
products that make sense and a lot that do not. People are discarding a lot
of wonderful and still useful items in order to "buy into" all this nonsense
The landfills are obscene. Meanwhile, the Al Gore crowd is making tons of
money while everyone else is sinking further into debt.


*CLICK below for the STORY Link:

Visit My Website

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…Gotta check out this Video below folks. It's Godfrey Bloom with a SCATHING attack on 'The Global Warming' Ruse/Scam. He's an MEP from Britain giving his take on the phony 'Climate' nonsense…and he makes no bones about it/'S'

*CLICK below for this 'inspired' Video…and Do something about it/'S'

Visit My Website

[simple simon]

Sweeps, I heard about Al Gore and his mansion ages ago. Yes, he certainly seems to be a typical two faced politician.

The story below shows the hypocracy and lies which the liquid fuel industry will use to promote so called 'greener' solutions.

Simon

http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/s/2059012...ioethanol_buses

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Red light for 'green' bio-ethanol buses
By Linda Fort
October 15, 2009


A green transport project hit a red light today as it was revealed that bio-ethanol buses were not running on fuel from sugar beet waste.

Reading borough councillors have launched an investigation into how they and the Reading Transport Board – which runs Reading Buses – could have been deceived.

The failure of the flagship venture will cause considerable political embarrassment to the leading Labour group which has used the project to boost its green credentials.

Despite repeated public statements that 14 Reading Buses on the Premier Route 17 were being run on bio-ethanol fuel made from sugar beet grown in Norfolk, in fact they have been running on fuel made from wood pulp imported from Sweden.

Deputy leader of the council Councillor Tony Page said: “It would appear that the council has been grossly misled over this issue and I have instigated an investigation as to why and how this has happened, given the assurances that were provided to the council and the Reading Transport Board about the source of the fuel.”

Chief executive of Reading Buses James Freeman added: “I fully welcome a thorough investigation into this matter and will do all I can to contribute in order to establish the background and circumstances around which this decision was made with no reference to myself, the board or the shareholder.”

[captain]

simple simon, on Oct 21 2009, 10:06 PM, said:

Sweeps, I heard about Al Gore and his mansion ages ago. Yes, he certainly seems to be a typical two faced politician.

The story below shows the hypocracy and lies which the liquid fuel industry will use to promote so called 'greener' solutions.

Simon

http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/s/2059012...ioethanol_buses

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Red light for 'green' bio-ethanol buses
By Linda Fort
October 15, 2009


A green transport project hit a red light today as it was revealed that bio-ethanol buses were not running on fuel from sugar beet waste.

Reading borough councillors have launched an investigation into how they and the Reading Transport Board – which runs Reading Buses – could have been deceived.

The failure of the flagship venture will cause considerable political embarrassment to the leading Labour group which has used the project to boost its green credentials.

Despite repeated public statements that 14 Reading Buses on the Premier Route 17 were being run on bio-ethanol fuel made from sugar beet grown in Norfolk, in fact they have been running on fuel made from wood pulp imported from Sweden.

Deputy leader of the council Councillor Tony Page said: "It would appear that the council has been grossly misled over this issue and I have instigated an investigation as to why and how this has happened, given the assurances that were provided to the council and the Reading Transport Board about the source of the fuel."

Chief executive of Reading Buses James Freeman added: "I fully welcome a thorough investigation into this matter and will do all I can to contribute in order to establish the background and circumstances around which this decision was made with no reference to myself, the board or the shareholder."

-Hello Simon and All,
-I've always said 'String up the Greens'-they are part of the problem. Remember their inspired invade/surround/destroy the Energy Plant where the production of electricity is fueled by COAL burning? Sure you do!! How many Idiots, consumed by the Green Passion against CARBON-a substance which is NOT toxic-are psychotically active in all this 'Cap/tax/and trade'? Think it's over the time to admit them to 'funny farms'. Or simply 'get rid of them', would be like shooting Zombies. Dont' they all remind you of them? Should be 'open season' on all Greens, because all Greens now represent loonicy and repression-Captain

[skylark]

captain, on Oct 27 2009, 06:27 PM, said:

-Hello Simon and All,
-I've always said 'String up the Greens'-they are part of the problem. Remember their inspired invade/surround/destroy the Energy Plant where the production of electricity is fueled by COAL burning? Sure you do!! How many Idiots, consumed by the Green Passion against CARBON-a substance which is NOT toxic-are psychotically active in all this 'Cap/tax/and trade'? Think it's over the time to admit them to 'funny farms'. Or simply 'get rid of them', would be like shooting Zombies. Dont' they all remind you of them? Should be 'open season' on all Greens, because all Greens now represent loonicy and repression-Captain

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…Hmmm. 'Not Evil Just Wrong', the new documentary debunking much of the global warming movement, is reaching the public at an opportune time. Not only did the film's director, Phelim McAleer, just publicly embarrass former Vice President Al Gore at a global warming Q&A, but major news outlets are now revealing the earth's temperature hasn't gone up for at least a decade/'S'

What if global warming is just another wide-scale scare tactic, like Y2K, the killer bees or mad cow disease, but with far more devastating results? These questions are rarely asked in the press, so kudos to "Not Evil" for doing so in such a methodical fashion. The film isn't as entertaining as a Moore screen rant, but it still looks snazzy while imparting a raft of enlightening material.

The film then trots out a wealth of experts to address the global warming movement and its flaws, but none are more passionate than Patrick Moore, a founding member of Greenpeace. He's aghast at the direction the environmental movement has taken in recent years, and thinks too many of his peers take an "anti-human" approach to the matter. "They care more about fish eggs than humans, and there's something immoral about that," he says of some enviro-peers.

The film shows school children in Northern Ireland who sketch frightening drawings inspired by Gore's fear mongering. Given the recent news headlines concerning brainwashed kiddies singing odes to President Barack Obama, the sequence proves even more chilling than intended.

Take the movie's debunking of the "hockey stick" graph used to highlight one the global warming movement's key talking points. We're walked through the entire process, learning step by step how two curious men were able to puncture the stick myth once and for all. The film also deftly illustrates the "Kumbaya" mentality so prevalent amongst environmentalists. One do-gooder wonders what Uganda would be like without birds, which she fears would be the result if DDT were introduced into the country.

[Yaeger]

captain, on Oct 27 2009, 06:27 PM, said:

-Hello Simon and All,
-I've always said 'String up the Greens'-they are part of the problem. Remember their inspired invade/surround/destroy the Energy Plant where the production of electricity is fueled by COAL burning? Sure you do!! How many Idiots, consumed by the Green Passion against CARBON-a substance which is NOT toxic-are psychotically active in all this 'Cap/tax/and trade'? Think it's over the time to admit them to 'funny farms'. Or simply 'get rid of them', would be like shooting Zombies. Dont' they all remind you of them? Should be 'open season' on all Greens, because all Greens now represent loonicy and repression-Captain

And now they want us to stop peat-burning as well, unless of course they can find a way to tax the people for it. Restriction of our right to move freely through higher taxation ( carbon tax for example - soon the be forced on us by the E.U.) is their true agenda. Time to kick those damned commies out of office and out of the country.

[skylark]

Yaeger, on Oct 28 2009, 09:10 PM, said:

And now they want us to stop peat-burning as well, unless of course they can find a way to tax the people for it. Restriction of our right to move freely through higher taxation ( carbon tax for example - soon the be forced on us by the E.U.) is their true agenda. Time to kick those damned commies out of office and out of the country.

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
...Great Video, in 5+ Parts, with Glenn Beck/Lord Mockton/and john bolton...on 'GLOBAL CLIMATE/TREATY AND ANTI-WORLD GOVERNMENT. Take it in...find time to watch/listen. Thanks/'S'

Visit My Website

[skylark]

simple simon, on Oct 21 2009, 10:06 PM, said:

Sweeps, I heard about Al Gore and his mansion ages ago. Yes, he certainly seems to be a typical two faced politician.

The story below shows the hypocracy and lies which the liquid fuel industry will use to promote so called 'greener' solutions.

Simon

http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/s/2059012...ioethanol_buses

--------------------------------------------------

Red light for 'green' bio-ethanol buses
By Linda Fort
October 15, 2009


A green transport project hit a red light today as it was revealed that bio-ethanol buses were not running on fuel from sugar beet waste.

Reading borough councillors have launched an investigation into how they and the Reading Transport Board – which runs Reading Buses – could have been deceived.

The failure of the flagship venture will cause considerable political embarrassment to the leading Labour group which has used the project to boost its green credentials.

Despite repeated public statements that 14 Reading Buses on the Premier Route 17 were being run on bio-ethanol fuel made from sugar beet grown in Norfolk, in fact they have been running on fuel made from wood pulp imported from Sweden.

Deputy leader of the council Councillor Tony Page said: "It would appear that the council has been grossly misled over this issue and I have instigated an investigation as to why and how this has happened, given the assurances that were provided to the council and the Reading Transport Board about the source of the fuel."

Chief executive of Reading Buses James Freeman added: "I fully welcome a thorough investigation into this matter and will do all I can to contribute in order to establish the background and circumstances around which this decision was made with no reference to myself, the board or the shareholder."

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…Well well well Folks. You gotta LAUGH and Holler at the same time. What a 'DOPE' Al Gore is. Check the Link below/'My Website', and SEE that Big AL has NOW said CO2 'ISN'T responsible for Global Warming/Climate Change'. What you say. THAT'S RIGHT…NOW he says people have to take it on 'FAITH ALONE' that MAYBE Global Warming is happening. Hmmmm…..just as we told you all, Global Warming IDIOTS are sounding now more like Religious Fanatics. Now what do you think of 'Gore's Nonsense'…and the EU and world leaders are falling for this non-scientific garbage? Seems so huh? Eat it up guys/gals…now people have to accept 'Global Warming' on Faith, because 'THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC PROOF'. Very interesting/'S'

Visit My Website

[Yaeger]

The "global warming" mafia strikes again


Everyone in Britain could be given a personal 'carbon allowance'

http://info-wars.org/2009/11/09/everyone-i...rbon-allowance/

Everyone in Britain should have an annual carbon ration and be penalised if they use too much fuel, according to the head of the Environment Agency.
Lord Smith of Finsbury believes that implementing individual carbon allowances for every person will be the most effective way of meeting the targets for cutting greenhouse gas emissions.
It would involve people being issued with a unique number which they would hand over when purchasing products that contribute to their carbon footprint, such as fuel, airline tickets and electricity.
Like with a bank account, a statement would be sent out each month to help people keep track of what they are using.
If their "carbon account" hits zero, they would have to pay to get more credits.
Those who are frugal with their carbon usage will be able to sell their unused credits and make a profit.
Lord Smith will call for the scheme to be part of a "Green New Deal" to be introduced within 20 years when he addresses the agency's annual conference on Monday.
An Environment Agency spokesman said only those with "extravagant lifestyles" would be affected by the carbon allowances.
He said: "A lot of people who cycle will get money back. It will probably only be bankers and those with extravagant lifestyles who would lose out."
However, some have criticised the move as "Orwellian" and say it will have a detrimental impact on business.
Ruth Lea, an economist from Arbuthnot Banking Group, told the Daily Mail: "This is all about control of the individual and you begin to wonder whether this is what the green agenda has always been about. It's Orwellian. This will be an enormous tax on business."
Under the Climate Change Act, Britain is obliged to cut its emissions by 80 per cent on 1990 levels by 2050. This means annual CO2 emissions per person will have to fall from about 9 tonnes to only 2 tonnes.
Source: telegraph.co.uk

[simple simon]

Yaeger, on Nov 10 2009, 07:15 PM, said:

An Environment Agency spokesman said only those with "extravagant lifestyles" would be affected by the carbon allowances.
He said: "A lot of people who cycle will get money back. It will probably only be bankers and those with extravagant lifestyles who would lose out."

Ho Ho HO Pull the other one its got bells on! Telling us that only bankers need worry is just an excuse to make people think it wont apply to them. Once such as system is in place so suddenly almost everyone will be sitting in darkened ice-cold rooms shivering. Except for the elite and the bankers, who will be able to afford to pay 'whatever it takes.'

Yaeger, on Nov 10 2009, 07:15 PM, said:

Ruth Lea, an economist from Arbuthnot Banking Group, told the Daily Mail: "This is all about control of the individual and you begin to wonder whether this is what the green agenda has always been about. It's Orwellian.

Thats the idea, Good is bad, truth is lies, honesty is to be derided, etc.

Simon

Edited by simple simon, 12 November 2009 - 10:50 PM.