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[Yaeger]

Article by Irish joornalist Kevin Myers questioning the wisdom behind the latest E.U. / Irish government move to ban 100 Watt bulbs throughout the E.U. and switch to CFLs


http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnis...ss-1887296.html



The priggish, prudish, know-all, sanctimonious instinct of the Irish has reached its acme with the Greens in Government, a vision of hell beyond all telling. Hence, the ban on incandescent light-bulbs, and our forcible conversion to CFLs. This has, grotesquely, coincided with the European mood, and all over the continent, useful lights are going out; and electrical glow-worms are being plugged into sockets, by the palsied light of which we can all go blind.
But the darkness engulfing Europe is not our main worry about the CFLs.. These bulbs contain mercury, which is highly toxic. A single bulb could contain enough mercury to do grave damage to a child's long-term health -- and so what is one to do when one drops and breaks a bulb (apart from a second mortgage or some armed robbery, to pay for a replacement bulb)?
Yet the universal distribution of mercury throughout the households of the western world has not been accompanied by any major health-campaign about the dangers of CFL bulbs. Is that because the ideologists behind the abolition of the safe, cheap and traditional light bulb do not dare tell the people of the perils accompanying the replacement bulbs? Is ignorance bliss? Bliss it certainly was for leaded petrol; bliss it was for the CFCs in our aerosols; bliss it certainly was for Thalidomide.
So in this condition of blissful ignorance, and for the first time in human history, the use of highly toxic liquid mercury is being made obligatory for all families in their homes, for the young and old, for the accident-prone, the stupid and the deranged. And if -- because of some deplorable lack of clinical trials on captive infants in the past -- we don't fully understand the long-term consequence of small children inhaling mercury, why, the next 20 years or so should remedy that disgraceful deficiency.
Moreover, what about the mercury-bearing bulbs thrown into waste dumps? Being almost irresistibly heavy, the mercury will probably bear down through the soil until it finds a happy watercourse it can contaminate.
So maybe the child who is not poisoned on the kitchen floor can be poisoned -- with equal convenience -- via the household tap. Either way, politically correct mercury could do for your child (though you probably won't notice until adolescence, when she sprouts an elephant's penis between her eyes, and insists that she is a Martian teaspoon called Obadiah).
All this, not to curb CO2 emissions from the hundreds of oil-burning power stations in China and India, or from the vast summer forest fires which erupt annually across the world, or from the North Sea oil wells that burn off trillions of litres of gas a year, or from the emissions from the world's vast steel smelters, never mind the billions of tons of methane being released from melting Arctic permafrost every year. No: this is merely to reduce our already tiny usage of household electricity -- the equivalent of passing a law forbidding cat-fleas from farting while Siberia's gas fields are on fire.
But of course, the real point of the ban is that such light bulb prohibitions reassure the Greens of their inner sanctimony. And is such feel-goodery not the purpose of almost all law in this Alice in Wonderland of a Republic? So never mind the consequences for children as yet unborn, who in adulthood might well turn into mercury-filled, tap-dancing goldfish, with three antlers, an incontinent bottom and no brain. Why? Because they can always get jobs with FAS or the Central Bank






Reply to Kevin Myers' article


http://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/...bs-1891951.html


Monday September 21 2009
In response to Kevin Myers' 'Let's Assure the Greens and embrace the darkness' (Irish Independent, September 16), I have been critical of the Independent in the recent past (and perhaps I will be again in the future) but I have to commend that article.
I'd like to know which fool advocated mercury-filled light bulbs for use in every house in Europe knowing full well the inherent danger of mercury to human health?
These bulbs are toxic and cannot be disposed of in any safe manner at present and there seem to be no plans to remedy this situation.
What are the Green Party thinking of?
Have they completely lost the plot or are they simply toeing the communist-like line put out by their international puppet master and head of the international Green movement, that stalwart of environmental protection, Mikhail Gorbachev, who presided over the biggest nuclear accident in history -- Chernobyl?
I'm sure the sandals and ponytail brigade will tout this as a major coup in making us all go green. Unfortunately, it could well be a very sickly shade of green.
It should also be pointed out that the very same highly toxic chemical is contained in vaccines.
So, before you flick the switch, turn off your brain and roll up your sleeve, walk towards the light and wake up.
People really need to look into what the Green/environmental movement is all about, who funds it and what its real motivation is. It is a not a world that is in the interests of us mere humans -- no it's all about the planet, Mother Earth, and the new religion of Gaia worship
People should read the United Nations document, 'Agenda 21'.
It's all in there and it doesn't make for pleasant reading.
We need to very careful when we hear phrases such as 'sustainable development', 'population control', 'food shortages' and that hint about what's to come, 'there are too many people'.
When you put these phrases together you should see a pattern, or should I say policy.
If not then you are living like organic mushrooms -- completely in the dark.
Neil Foster
Ballyfarnon
Co Roscommon

[skylark]

Yaeger, on Sep 21 2009, 06:00 PM, said:

Article by Irish joornalist Kevin Myers questioning the wisdom behind the latest E.U. / Irish government move to ban 100 Watt bulbs throughout the E.U. and switch to CFLs


http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnis...ss-1887296.html



The priggish, prudish, know-all, sanctimonious instinct of the Irish has reached its acme with the Greens in Government, a vision of hell beyond all telling. Hence, the ban on incandescent light-bulbs, and our forcible conversion to CFLs. This has, grotesquely, coincided with the European mood, and all over the continent, useful lights are going out; and electrical glow-worms are being plugged into sockets, by the palsied light of which we can all go blind.
But the darkness engulfing Europe is not our main worry about the CFLs.. These bulbs contain mercury, which is highly toxic. A single bulb could contain enough mercury to do grave damage to a child's long-term health -- and so what is one to do when one drops and breaks a bulb (apart from a second mortgage or some armed robbery, to pay for a replacement bulb)?
Yet the universal distribution of mercury throughout the households of the western world has not been accompanied by any major health-campaign about the dangers of CFL bulbs. Is that because the ideologists behind the abolition of the safe, cheap and traditional light bulb do not dare tell the people of the perils accompanying the replacement bulbs? Is ignorance bliss? Bliss it certainly was for leaded petrol; bliss it was for the CFCs in our aerosols; bliss it certainly was for Thalidomide.
So in this condition of blissful ignorance, and for the first time in human history, the use of highly toxic liquid mercury is being made obligatory for all families in their homes, for the young and old, for the accident-prone, the stupid and the deranged. And if -- because of some deplorable lack of clinical trials on captive infants in the past -- we don't fully understand the long-term consequence of small children inhaling mercury, why, the next 20 years or so should remedy that disgraceful deficiency.
Moreover, what about the mercury-bearing bulbs thrown into waste dumps? Being almost irresistibly heavy, the mercury will probably bear down through the soil until it finds a happy watercourse it can contaminate.
So maybe the child who is not poisoned on the kitchen floor can be poisoned -- with equal convenience -- via the household tap. Either way, politically correct mercury could do for your child (though you probably won't notice until adolescence, when she sprouts an elephant's penis between her eyes, and insists that she is a Martian teaspoon called Obadiah).
All this, not to curb CO2 emissions from the hundreds of oil-burning power stations in China and India, or from the vast summer forest fires which erupt annually across the world, or from the North Sea oil wells that burn off trillions of litres of gas a year, or from the emissions from the world's vast steel smelters, never mind the billions of tons of methane being released from melting Arctic permafrost every year. No: this is merely to reduce our already tiny usage of household electricity -- the equivalent of passing a law forbidding cat-fleas from farting while Siberia's gas fields are on fire.
But of course, the real point of the ban is that such light bulb prohibitions reassure the Greens of their inner sanctimony. And is such feel-goodery not the purpose of almost all law in this Alice in Wonderland of a Republic? So never mind the consequences for children as yet unborn, who in adulthood might well turn into mercury-filled, tap-dancing goldfish, with three antlers, an incontinent bottom and no brain. Why? Because they can always get jobs with FAS or the Central Bank






Reply to Kevin Myers' article


http://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/...bs-1891951.html


Monday September 21 2009
In response to Kevin Myers' 'Let's Assure the Greens and embrace the darkness' (Irish Independent, September 16), I have been critical of the Independent in the recent past (and perhaps I will be again in the future) but I have to commend that article.
I'd like to know which fool advocated mercury-filled light bulbs for use in every house in Europe knowing full well the inherent danger of mercury to human health?
These bulbs are toxic and cannot be disposed of in any safe manner at present and there seem to be no plans to remedy this situation.
What are the Green Party thinking of?
Have they completely lost the plot or are they simply toeing the communist-like line put out by their international puppet master and head of the international Green movement, that stalwart of environmental protection, Mikhail Gorbachev, who presided over the biggest nuclear accident in history -- Chernobyl?
I'm sure the sandals and ponytail brigade will tout this as a major coup in making us all go green. Unfortunately, it could well be a very sickly shade of green.
It should also be pointed out that the very same highly toxic chemical is contained in vaccines.
So, before you flick the switch, turn off your brain and roll up your sleeve, walk towards the light and wake up.
People really need to look into what the Green/environmental movement is all about, who funds it and what its real motivation is. It is a not a world that is in the interests of us mere humans -- no it's all about the planet, Mother Earth, and the new religion of Gaia worship
People should read the United Nations document, 'Agenda 21'.
It's all in there and it doesn't make for pleasant reading.
We need to very careful when we hear phrases such as 'sustainable development', 'population control', 'food shortages' and that hint about what's to come, 'there are too many people'.
When you put these phrases together you should see a pattern, or should I say policy.
If not then you are living like organic mushrooms -- completely in the dark.
Neil Foster
Ballyfarnon
Co Roscommon

YO Yaeger,
...You and others might want to look at our 'Forum' Topic on these bulbs. There is a good video with it. Click on the Link-'My Website' below. Thanks/'S'

Visit My Website

[Yaeger]

skylark, on Sep 21 2009, 06:56 PM, said:

YO Yaeger,
...You and others might want to look at our 'Forum' Topic on these bulbs. There is a good video with it. Click on the Link-'My Website' below. Thanks/'S'

Visit My Website

Thanks, didn't see the existing threat, otherwise I would have posted it there. I used "search", typed in a couple of key words, but nothing came up.

[skylark]

Yaeger, on Sep 22 2009, 05:35 PM, said:

Thanks, didn't see the existing threat, otherwise I would have posted it there. I used "search", typed in a couple of key words, but nothing came up.

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
...Here's a goody from another group responding...'Save Tara', on the CFL bulbs:

Remember those happyish days in 2007, when we imagined the new
government might save Tara, demilitarise Shannon, and prevent a
unscrupulous oil multinational from trampling all over Mayo? How meekly
we placed the seeds of hope in their stubby green fingers. Instead the
Greens will go down in history as the party that gave us 1.4 million
numbered households lit by CFL bulbs.

*Seems like we have some company on this Yaeger. Cheers/'S'