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[Yaeger]

Vaclav Klaus is one of a few "common sense" politicians we have left in Europe. Please read what he says about the "global warming" myth, European unification and the threat of Neo-Socialism to our society.

Vaclav Klaus on 'Climate Change'

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE58L6ID20090922

By Louis Charbonneau
UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Czech President Vaclav Klaus sharply criticized a U.N. meeting on climate change on Tuesday at which U.S. President Barack Obama was among the top speakers, describing it as propagandistic and undignified.
"It was sad and it was frustrating," said Klaus, one of the world's most vocal skeptics on the topic of global warming.
"It's a propagandistic exercise where 13-year-old girls from some far-away country perform a pre-rehearsed poem," he said. "It's simply not dignified."
At the opening of the summit attended by nearly 100 world leaders, 13-year-old Yugratna Srivastava of India told the audience that governments were not doing enough to combat the threat of climate change.
Klaus said there were increasing doubts in the scientific community about whether humans are causing changes in the climate or whether the changes are simply naturally occurring phenomena.
But politicians, he said, seem to be moving closer to a consensus on climate change.
"The train can't be stopped and I consider that a huge mistake," Klaus said.
U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon organized the climate summit to help create momentum before a U.N. meeting in Copenhagen in December to reach agreement on new targets for reducing so-called greenhouse gas emissions.
However, new proposals by China and a rallying cry from U.S. President Barack Obama did little to break a U.N. deadlock about what should be done.
Klaus published a book in 2007 on the worldwide campaign to stop climate change entitled "Blue Planet in Green Chains: What Is Under Threat -- Climate or Freedom?"
In the book, Klaus said global warming has turned into a new religion, an ideology that threatens to undermine freedom and the world's economic and social order.
(Editing by Doina Chiacu)
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Vaclav Klaus on Neo-Socialism

http://klaus.cz/klaus2/asp/clanek.asp?id=y1xJFexYl97t
Thank you for the invitation to come to Aix, for giving me a chance to address this reputable audience where I see many friends and, above all, thank you for continuing to organize the Summer University . I only don't understand why you call it Summer University of the New Economics. Which one is the old one? We have only one, good, old economic theory and it is our adversaries who use the term "new economics" as an attack on our views.

This year's main topic of your gathering is "Markets and Morality." I only hope that by choosing this title you wanted to say that there is no morality, at least in the public arena, without markets. It is an important and, again, a very old message. In our early post-communist years, I was being often patronized that what we needed then was morality, whereas I stubbornly repeated that what we needed were markets. My critics argued that a strong, ex-ante infusion of morality is necessary – with the implicit expectation that it would be them, who'd be supplying it. It was the substance of my disputes with my predecessor in office, President Václav Havel. I hope the speakers at the Summer University will be on my side.

I am here already for the third time in this decade. It demonstrates – at least I wish it does – my respect for what you're doing. I was here in August 2002 when we, at the beginning of the second post-communist decade, started to reassess our journey from communism to a free society. The title of my speech then was "Post-Communist Era: Atmosphere of Victory or of Lost Illusions?" [1] We had a mixed feeling at that time. We had quite rapidly liquidated the formal structures and mechanisms of the communist society and successfully established parliamentary democracy and market economy. The question was whether we were building free society based on classical liberal principles or whether we – instead – had fallen into another blind alley of regulated society, of unproductive welfare state, of brave new world of European socialdemocratism and of empty and artificial Europeanism. My answer to that question was that the winner of the transition decade was democracy, not freedom or classical liberalism. Our original slogan: "deregulate, liberalize, privatize" was gradually transformed into a different one: "regulate, adjust to all kinds of standards of the most developed and richest countries, listen to the partial interests of the NGOs and follow them, get rid of your sovereignty and put it into the hands of international institutions and organizations."

This year we celebrate already the 20th anniversary of the fall of communism and we are again in a reassessment mood. The situation has not changed for the better.

My second visit here was in August 2006. The title of my presentation was "What is Europeism?" [2] Europeism is – for me – an inconsistent, evidently heterogeneous, but in principle neosocialist doctrine, which characterizes the current thinking in Europe . It believes neither in freedom, nor in spontaneous evolution of human society. It is a "conglomerate of ideas" that includes

- economic (or social) views based on the concept of the so called social market economy (which is the opposite of the market economy);

- views on freedom, democracy and society based on collectivism, social partnership and corporatism, not on classical parliamentary democracy;

- views on European integration, which favor unification and supranationalism;

- views on foreign policy and international relations based on internationalism, cosmopolitism, abstract universalism, multiculturalism and on denationalization.

To my great regret, I am afraid the same speech should be repeated today. Europe is more and more dominated by this way of thinking despite the fact that it is an extremely naïve, unpractical and romantic utopism, not shared by European silent majority, but predominantly by European elites.

Looking back, I am slightly surprised that in 2006 I did not mention environmentalism and global warming alarmism as a new threat to our freedom and prosperity. My book "Blue Planet in Green Shackles" – after its Czech, English, German, Dutch, Russian, Polish, Spanish, Bulgarian and Italian editions – has since May also its French version with the title "Planète bleue en peril vert." [3] I would like to thank all those who helped to make this publication possible, most of all Professor Jacques Garello.

I am more and more convinced that the real threat is not global warming itself. The real threat is playing with the climate (and with all of us) by irresponsible politicians and all kinds of environmentalists. I tried to express this view of mine in a question I raised in the subtitle of my book "Qu'est-ce qui est en danger: le climat ou la liberté?" My answer to this question is clear and straightforward: "C'est la liberté qui est en danger. Le climat va bien."

One frequent misunderstanding needs to be dispelled. People tend to confuse two conceptually different things – a rational protection of the environment and an irrational attempt to protect (or even to fight) the climate. I am very much in favor of rational efforts when it comes to the environmental protection because we have to take care of our rivers, lakes, seas, forests and air, but I resolutely reject any attempts to change – or as I frequently hear – to combat the climate.

The current Global Warming Debate is not about temperature or CO2 levels. It is also not part of a scientific dispute inside climatology. It is an ideological clash between those who want to change us (rather than the climate) and those who believe in freedom, markets, human ingenuity, and technical progress. It is a dispute about us, about people, about human society, about our values, about our habits, about our way of life. Temperature fluctuations are only an instrument, not a real object of interest for those who play that game.

The advocates of global warming alarmism ask for an almost unprecedented expansion of government intrusion, of government intervention into our lives and of government control over us. We are pushed into accepting rules about how to live, what to do, how to behave, what to consume, what to eat, how to travel. It is unacceptable. Radical, human freedom and prosperity endangering measures and policies owing to global warming are not necessary.

The available evidence tells us quite convincingly that:

1. The warming we witness is not global. It materializes in the cold, but not in tropical regions, in dry, not wet areas, in the winter, not in the summer, and during the nights, not during the days.

2. The warming is not large. The average global temperature increase in the last century was only 0.74 °C . In addition to it, the climate stopped warming more than a decade ago altogether. The temperature now is similar to the temperature in the year 1940, regardless of a huge increase in CO2 emissions.

3. The warming is not unique and unprecedented. The temperature in the Medieval Warm Period and in many other moments of history was higher than it is now.

4. The mild warming we experience is not dominantly man-made or CO2-made. There are many other factors influencing the temperature and climate and the whole very complex climate system is still full of major uncertainties. One author recently calculated that the term "uncertain" or "uncertainties" appear more than 1300 times in the text of the 2007 IPCC Assessment Report.

We have to come up with an optimistic message that human adaptation, human flexibility, technical progress and the markets themselves will be sufficient to deal with all future potential problems of that kind.

The last topic I would like to mention here today is the current financial and economic crisis. The economic profession, the politicians, as well as the public did not expect it to come. They all accepted the validity of the so called "Great Moderation" hypothesis based on the belief in the omnipotence of central banks and governments to control the macroeconomy and in the feasibility, rationality and positiveness of microeconomic regulation, especially in financial and banking sectors. This hypothesis was, of course, wrong and the dream about the eternal removal of business fluctuations did not materialize.

The current crisis is a consequence of a combination of government failures. On the macroeconomic side, it was the unprecedented build-up of imbalances in the world economy and the unusually long period of low real interest rates. On the microeconomic side, the existing partial and very imperfect regulation distorted the behavior of banks and financial institutions and motivated them to look for ways to escape it by means of various "financial innovations". They found it relatively easy to move their activities outside the regulatory perimeter, the most known example of this is the securitization of subprime mortgage credit.

I am convinced that the current crisis is not the result of a market failure or of any inherent deficiency of capitalism. It is a government failure, resulting from the immodest and unhumble ambitions to control such a complex system as society and economy.

I believe this is what the whole Summer University is about.

Václav Klaus, 31st Summer University of the New Economics, Dinner Speech, Hotel Roy René, Aix-en-Provence, France, August 23, 2009

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[simple simon]

Vaclav Klaus knows more about freedom than many western people - and leaders. He has, of course, experienced life under the opposite (during the Soviet era) and therefore cherishes the present-day freedom his country enjoys far more than many from the formerly 'free' world, who just 'take it for granted'.

re: point 3: that warm period was followed by a mini ice age - which is where we seem to be heading 'right now'.

There was a feature on the TV this evening about a medieval graveyard. I only saw part of the feature but I noted how they were talking about volcanic activity as a cause of a global period of famine, when there were several years of poor summers and crop faliures, leading to tens of thousands people perishing from food shortage.

Is history about to repeat itself? (Within the next few years??)

Simon

[skylark]

simple simon, on Sep 25 2009, 08:55 PM, said:

Vaclav Klaus knows more about freedom than many western people - and leaders. He has, of course, experienced life under the opposite (during the Soviet era) and therefore cherishes the present-day freedom his country enjoys far more than many from the formerly 'free' world, who just 'take it for granted'.

re: point 3: that warm period was followed by a mini ice age - which is where we seem to be heading 'right now'.

There was a feature on the TV this evening about a medieval graveyard. I only saw part of the feature but I noted how they were talking about volcanic activity as a cause of a global period of famine, when there were several years of poor summers and crop faliures, leading to tens of thousands people perishing from food shortage.

Is history about to repeat itself? (Within the next few years??)

Simon

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[Yaeger]

simple simon, on Sep 25 2009, 08:55 PM, said:

Vaclav Klaus knows more about freedom than many western people - and leaders. He has, of course, experienced life under the opposite (during the Soviet era) and therefore cherishes the present-day freedom his country enjoys far more than many from the formerly 'free' world, who just 'take it for granted'.

re: point 3: that warm period was followed by a mini ice age - which is where we seem to be heading 'right now'.

There was a feature on the TV this evening about a medieval graveyard. I only saw part of the feature but I noted how they were talking about volcanic activity as a cause of a global period of famine, when there were several years of poor summers and crop faliures, leading to tens of thousands people perishing from food shortage.

Is history about to repeat itself? (Within the next few years??)

Simon

The earth is a living organism and therefore subject to constant change. Well over a thousand years ago the Vikings colonized Greenland and enjoyed a fantastic harvest. The next generation of settlers watched the ice encroaching on their homesteads. Many were forced to pull out again. During the late middle ages a famous coastal town near the modern German/Dutch border was swept into the sea by two tidal waves. And of course we are all familiar with those famous mid 1700's pictures showing people enjoying themselves during a mini ice-age on the frozen Thames river in London, England.
And if the Piri Reis map is authentic, then Antarctica may have been completely ice free less than 2000 years ago. And back then there were no factories, cars or George W. Bush to blame the the frequent climat changes. That shows that it's all part of a natural circle and definitely not man-made.

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Yaeger, on Sep 26 2009, 10:46 AM, said:

The earth is a living organism and therefore subject to constant change. Well over a thousand years ago the Vikings colonized Greenland and enjoyed a fantastic harvest. The next generation of settlers watched the ice encroaching on their homesteads. Many were forced to pull out again. During the late middle ages a famous coastal town near the modern German/Dutch border was swept into the sea by two tidal waves. And of course we are all familiar with those famous mid 1700's pictures showing people enjoying themselves during a mini ice-age on the frozen Thames river in London, England.
And if the Piri Reis map is authentic, then Antarctica may have been completely ice free less than 2000 years ago. And back then there were no factories, cars or George W. Bush to blame the the frequent climat changes. That shows that it's all part of a natural circle and definitely not man-made.

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[simple simon]

alas he has now been bullied into signing the Lisbon treaty, so the EU has got its way.#

The following cartoon was in yesterday's newspaper (5th November 2009, Guy Fawkes day)

Simon

[Yaeger]

simple simon, on Nov 6 2009, 09:02 PM, said:

alas he has now been bullied into signing the Lisbon treaty, so the EU has got its way.#

The following cartoon was in yesterday's newspaper (5th November 2009, Guy Fawkes day)

Simon

Klaus had no other choice but to sign it. Otherwise he could have faced impeachment. But the battle for freedom ain't over yet in the Czech Republic .