Prague hints on possible split with EU as Lisbon treaty is signed
http://russiatoday.com/Top_News/2009-11-05....html?fullstory
On the day after Czech President Klaus finally signed the Lisbon treaty, a top official from his administration said that the move could result in the country leaving the EU and "regaining independence."
According to Ceske Noviny daily, the deputy head of the Presidential Office, Petr Hajek, said in a televised interview that despite the fact that President Vaclav Klaus had signed the Lisbon treaty, he remained in opposition to major points of the document and might soon initiate the Czech Republic's withdrawal from the EU.
Although admitting that he was not aware of any concrete plan to reinstate the nation's "independence" from the European Union, Hajek said that this was one possible way to interpret Klaus's statement that the Czech Republic will cease to be a sovereign state after the Lisbon treaty comes into force.
At the same time, Hajek said that he had personally advised the president to sign the Lisbon treaty, and so did the majority of presidential advisers.
The news comes as a surprise, as the majority of Czech population is very positive about their nation's participation in the EU, and those who are against it are mostly driven by Communist sentiments. The Czech Communist party was the only parliamentary faction that had not approved the signing of the treaty by the president, and the polls, conducted in mid-October, showed that those who were against it were mostly people over 60 years old.
Nikolai Kaveshnikov, a Russian expert on European integration, told RT that the scenario predicted by Hajek was highly improbable.
Independent political analyst Vladimir Kozin said in an interview with RT that, in his opinion, reporters were paying disproportionately large attention to a statement made not by a politician, but by an administrative officer within the Czech presidential administration. And even if what Petr Hajek said had some truth to it, the reaction of the European Union and other major players on the political scene would be so quick and harsh that there would be no chance for any sort of withdrawal from EU. The Czech Republic is not only a member of the EU, it is also a member of NATO, and any major political changes would not be welcomed by NATO as a whole, nor by its key member, the United States, the analyst said, adding that we should expect the harshest measures.
Speaking on a possible Russian position on the split in the EU ranks, the analyst said that Russia has always considered this to be an internal affair and will continue to do so.
When asked about the possible reasons behind the statement, Vladimir Kozin said that these reasons were obscure and the only obvious motive was checking the EU's readiness for bargaining with Prague.
As there has been no official reply to Hajek's forecast on the part of the EU, we can say that the test has so far yielded no results
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Yaeger, on Nov 6 2009, 07:06 PM, said:
Prague hints on possible split with EU as Lisbon treaty is signed
http://russiatoday.com/Top_News/2009-11-05....html?fullstory
On the day after Czech President Klaus finally signed the Lisbon treaty, a top official from his administration said that the move could result in the country leaving the EU and "regaining independence."
According to Ceske Noviny daily, the deputy head of the Presidential Office, Petr Hajek, said in a televised interview that despite the fact that President Vaclav Klaus had signed the Lisbon treaty, he remained in opposition to major points of the document and might soon initiate the Czech Republic's withdrawal from the EU.
Although admitting that he was not aware of any concrete plan to reinstate the nation's "independence" from the European Union, Hajek said that this was one possible way to interpret Klaus's statement that the Czech Republic will cease to be a sovereign state after the Lisbon treaty comes into force.
At the same time, Hajek said that he had personally advised the president to sign the Lisbon treaty, and so did the majority of presidential advisers.
The news comes as a surprise, as the majority of Czech population is very positive about their nation's participation in the EU, and those who are against it are mostly driven by Communist sentiments. The Czech Communist party was the only parliamentary faction that had not approved the signing of the treaty by the president, and the polls, conducted in mid-October, showed that those who were against it were mostly people over 60 years old.
Nikolai Kaveshnikov, a Russian expert on European integration, told RT that the scenario predicted by Hajek was highly improbable.
Independent political analyst Vladimir Kozin said in an interview with RT that, in his opinion, reporters were paying disproportionately large attention to a statement made not by a politician, but by an administrative officer within the Czech presidential administration. And even if what Petr Hajek said had some truth to it, the reaction of the European Union and other major players on the political scene would be so quick and harsh that there would be no chance for any sort of withdrawal from EU. The Czech Republic is not only a member of the EU, it is also a member of NATO, and any major political changes would not be welcomed by NATO as a whole, nor by its key member, the United States, the analyst said, adding that we should expect the harshest measures.
Speaking on a possible Russian position on the split in the EU ranks, the analyst said that Russia has always considered this to be an internal affair and will continue to do so.
When asked about the possible reasons behind the statement, Vladimir Kozin said that these reasons were obscure and the only obvious motive was checking the EU's readiness for bargaining with Prague.
As there has been no official reply to Hajek's forecast on the part of the EU, we can say that the test has so far yielded no results
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http://russiatoday.com/Top_News/2009-11-05....html?fullstory
On the day after Czech President Klaus finally signed the Lisbon treaty, a top official from his administration said that the move could result in the country leaving the EU and "regaining independence."
According to Ceske Noviny daily, the deputy head of the Presidential Office, Petr Hajek, said in a televised interview that despite the fact that President Vaclav Klaus had signed the Lisbon treaty, he remained in opposition to major points of the document and might soon initiate the Czech Republic's withdrawal from the EU.
Although admitting that he was not aware of any concrete plan to reinstate the nation's "independence" from the European Union, Hajek said that this was one possible way to interpret Klaus's statement that the Czech Republic will cease to be a sovereign state after the Lisbon treaty comes into force.
At the same time, Hajek said that he had personally advised the president to sign the Lisbon treaty, and so did the majority of presidential advisers.
The news comes as a surprise, as the majority of Czech population is very positive about their nation's participation in the EU, and those who are against it are mostly driven by Communist sentiments. The Czech Communist party was the only parliamentary faction that had not approved the signing of the treaty by the president, and the polls, conducted in mid-October, showed that those who were against it were mostly people over 60 years old.
Nikolai Kaveshnikov, a Russian expert on European integration, told RT that the scenario predicted by Hajek was highly improbable.
Independent political analyst Vladimir Kozin said in an interview with RT that, in his opinion, reporters were paying disproportionately large attention to a statement made not by a politician, but by an administrative officer within the Czech presidential administration. And even if what Petr Hajek said had some truth to it, the reaction of the European Union and other major players on the political scene would be so quick and harsh that there would be no chance for any sort of withdrawal from EU. The Czech Republic is not only a member of the EU, it is also a member of NATO, and any major political changes would not be welcomed by NATO as a whole, nor by its key member, the United States, the analyst said, adding that we should expect the harshest measures.
Speaking on a possible Russian position on the split in the EU ranks, the analyst said that Russia has always considered this to be an internal affair and will continue to do so.
When asked about the possible reasons behind the statement, Vladimir Kozin said that these reasons were obscure and the only obvious motive was checking the EU's readiness for bargaining with Prague.
As there has been no official reply to Hajek's forecast on the part of the EU, we can say that the test has so far yielded no results
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*'Sweeps' NOTE:
...Below, 'The David Icke Newsletter' Preview. Something which is ALWAYS relevant. Take it in. The EU...A SORRY MESS!
The David Icke Newsletter Goes Out On Sunday
National sovereignty in Europe - what little is left of it - was condemned to history this week with the signing of the 'Lisbon Treaty' that centralises power in the European Union like never before. The Rubicon has now been crossed and we enter full-blown tyranny.
The final signature to the agreement was that of Vaclav Klaus, President of the Czech Republic, who had held out as long as he thought was possible. Klaus has been a vehement critic of the Treaty and he well knows what it means for European freedom and national sovereignty and identity. He has also dismissed the belief in human-caused global warming as 'a false myth and every serious person and scientist says so'.
He is clearly a man who can see beyond the end of his nose and the garbage that must be daily put before him by officialdom, but when he swished his pen this week he was well aware that he was effectively signing away all rights for Europeans to decide their own national destiny and handing them to the dark-suits and dark minds in the EU bureaucracy in Brussels, Belgium.
The same is planned for North America, Africa and Asia-Australia-New Zealand and it is good to be streetwise about the methods and techniques employed to seize control of the nation state. What has been done to ensnare Europe is happening now around the world. The basic theme is encapsulated in a single quote 57 years ago by the 'Father of Europe', the Rothschild frontman, Jean Monnet. In the year I was born, he wrote this in a letter to a friend:
'Europe's nations should be guided towards the super-state without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation.'
And so it was ...
... This was the week the nation state effectively ended in Europe and a tidal wave of new laws and regulations, long since written and waiting, are about to deluge the countries of Europe when the Lisbon Treaty comes into force in a few weeks.
It has all been planned since at least the 19th century, probably long before that, and lying, cheating and deeply corrupt politicians and bureaucrats have ensured over the last 60 years that the nightmare became fact.
In Europe at least, the game just changed to a whole new phase. Learn the lesson North America, Africa, Asia, Australia and New Zealand. You are next in line. Don't let them do the same to you.
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 05:18 PM
Now then... has someone upset the applecart? This is significant, me thinks.
Maybe eventually we Brits will be disengaging from the European Federation and looking towards the wider global family of nations for trading partners? Along with our Commonwealth cousins BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) may well be the way forward. These nations have high populations (numerically) and if we can produce the right goods they could represent very lucrative markets. I can already imagine British business people visiting places such as Rio on overseas sales trips, plus of course a day or so to recover from jet lag on the beach
. 'Life is tough' as the expression goes...
The Europeans may not like it but (almost certainly) they wont do anything punative towards us, especially as we import significantly more from Europe than we export to Europe, so in a nutshell they need us / by taking revenge against us they would end up hurting themselves quite noticeably as well.
Simon
Day we stood up to Europe: In an unprecedented move, MPs reject European court's ruling that prisoners must get the vote
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13...l#ixzz1DfeqL2QG
MPs mounted an historic defence of Britain’s sovereign right to make its own decisions last night by defying demands from the European courts to hand prisoners the vote.
They voted overwhelmingly to maintain a 140-year-old ban on convicts taking part in elections because, they said, those who commit a crime have ‘broken their contract with society’.
The decisive stance plunged Parliament into an unprecedented stand-off against the European Court of Human Rights.
After six hours of impassioned debate, MPs voted by 234 to 22 – a majority of 212 – to defy a ruling from the ECHR that the ban must be overturned.
Dozens of Conservative backbenchers lined up to insist that after decades of toeing the line, the time has come for Britain to tell unelected Strasbourg judges that they have overstepped their authority.
Experts said the vote left Britain’s relationship with the European court in ‘uncharted territory’. It places the Prime Minister under intense pressure to launch a defining challenge against Strasbourg.
Proposing the cross-party motion which ‘supports the current situation in which no prisoner is able to vote’, former Tory shadow home secretary David Davis said: ‘The general point is very clear in this country: that is that it takes a pretty serious crime to get yourself sent to prison.
And as a result you have broken the contract with society to such a serious extent that you have lost all of those rights: your that you have lost all of those rights: your liberty and your right to vote.’
And Dominic Raab, Tory MP for Esher and Walton, who also initiated last night’s debate, said: ‘It is time to draw a line in the sand. It’s time we send a very clear message: this House will decide whether prisoners get the vote, this House will decide the laws of the land.’
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13...l#ixzz1DfhpYexy
Maybe eventually we Brits will be disengaging from the European Federation and looking towards the wider global family of nations for trading partners? Along with our Commonwealth cousins BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) may well be the way forward. These nations have high populations (numerically) and if we can produce the right goods they could represent very lucrative markets. I can already imagine British business people visiting places such as Rio on overseas sales trips, plus of course a day or so to recover from jet lag on the beach
. 'Life is tough' as the expression goes...The Europeans may not like it but (almost certainly) they wont do anything punative towards us, especially as we import significantly more from Europe than we export to Europe, so in a nutshell they need us / by taking revenge against us they would end up hurting themselves quite noticeably as well.
Simon
Day we stood up to Europe: In an unprecedented move, MPs reject European court's ruling that prisoners must get the vote
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13...l#ixzz1DfeqL2QG
MPs mounted an historic defence of Britain’s sovereign right to make its own decisions last night by defying demands from the European courts to hand prisoners the vote.
They voted overwhelmingly to maintain a 140-year-old ban on convicts taking part in elections because, they said, those who commit a crime have ‘broken their contract with society’.
The decisive stance plunged Parliament into an unprecedented stand-off against the European Court of Human Rights.
After six hours of impassioned debate, MPs voted by 234 to 22 – a majority of 212 – to defy a ruling from the ECHR that the ban must be overturned.
Dozens of Conservative backbenchers lined up to insist that after decades of toeing the line, the time has come for Britain to tell unelected Strasbourg judges that they have overstepped their authority.
Experts said the vote left Britain’s relationship with the European court in ‘uncharted territory’. It places the Prime Minister under intense pressure to launch a defining challenge against Strasbourg.
Proposing the cross-party motion which ‘supports the current situation in which no prisoner is able to vote’, former Tory shadow home secretary David Davis said: ‘The general point is very clear in this country: that is that it takes a pretty serious crime to get yourself sent to prison.
And as a result you have broken the contract with society to such a serious extent that you have lost all of those rights: your that you have lost all of those rights: your liberty and your right to vote.’
And Dominic Raab, Tory MP for Esher and Walton, who also initiated last night’s debate, said: ‘It is time to draw a line in the sand. It’s time we send a very clear message: this House will decide whether prisoners get the vote, this House will decide the laws of the land.’
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13...l#ixzz1DfhpYexy
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simple simon, on Feb 11 2011, 05:18 PM, said:
Now then... has someone upset the applecart? This is significant, me thinks.
Maybe eventually we Brits will be disengaging from the European Federation and looking towards the wider global family of nations for trading partners? Along with our Commonwealth cousins BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) may well be the way forward. These nations have high populations (numerically) and if we can produce the right goods they could represent very lucrative markets. I can already imagine British business people visiting places such as Rio on overseas sales trips, plus of course a day or so to recover from jet lag on the beach . 'Life is tough' as the expression goes...
The Europeans may not like it but (almost certainly) they wont do anything punative towards us, especially as we import significantly more from Europe than we export to Europe, so in a nutshell they need us / by taking revenge against us they would end up hurting themselves quite noticeably as well.
Simon
Day we stood up to Europe: In an unprecedented move, MPs reject European court's ruling that prisoners must get the vote
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13...l#ixzz1DfeqL2QG
MPs mounted an historic defence of Britain's sovereign right to make its own decisions last night by defying demands from the European courts to hand prisoners the vote.
They voted overwhelmingly to maintain a 140-year-old ban on convicts ­taking part in elections because, they said, those who commit a crime have 'broken their contract with society'.
The decisive stance plunged Parliament into an unprecedented stand-off against the European Court of Human Rights.
After six hours of impassioned debate, MPs voted by 234 to 22 – a majority of 212 – to defy a ruling from the ECHR that the ban must be overturned.
Dozens of Conservative backbenchers lined up to insist that after decades of toeing the line, the time has come for Britain to tell unelected Strasbourg judges that they have overstepped their authority.
Experts said the vote left Britain's relationship with the European court in 'uncharted territory'. It places the Prime Minister under intense pressure to launch a defining challenge against Strasbourg.
Proposing the cross-party motion which ­'supports the current situation in which no prisoner is able to vote', former Tory shadow home secretary David Davis said: 'The ­general point is very clear in this country: that is that it takes a pretty serious crime to get yourself sent to prison.
And as a result you have broken the contract with society to such a serious extent that you have lost all of those rights: your that you have lost all of those rights: your liberty and your right to vote.'
And Dominic Raab, Tory MP for Esher and Walton, who also initiated last night's debate, said: 'It is time to draw a line in the sand. It's time we send a very clear message: this House will decide whether prisoners get the vote, this House will decide the laws of the land.'
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13...l#ixzz1DfhpYexy
Maybe eventually we Brits will be disengaging from the European Federation and looking towards the wider global family of nations for trading partners? Along with our Commonwealth cousins BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) may well be the way forward. These nations have high populations (numerically) and if we can produce the right goods they could represent very lucrative markets. I can already imagine British business people visiting places such as Rio on overseas sales trips, plus of course a day or so to recover from jet lag on the beach
. 'Life is tough' as the expression goes...The Europeans may not like it but (almost certainly) they wont do anything punative towards us, especially as we import significantly more from Europe than we export to Europe, so in a nutshell they need us / by taking revenge against us they would end up hurting themselves quite noticeably as well.
Simon
Day we stood up to Europe: In an unprecedented move, MPs reject European court's ruling that prisoners must get the vote
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13...l#ixzz1DfeqL2QG
MPs mounted an historic defence of Britain's sovereign right to make its own decisions last night by defying demands from the European courts to hand prisoners the vote.
They voted overwhelmingly to maintain a 140-year-old ban on convicts ­taking part in elections because, they said, those who commit a crime have 'broken their contract with society'.
The decisive stance plunged Parliament into an unprecedented stand-off against the European Court of Human Rights.
After six hours of impassioned debate, MPs voted by 234 to 22 – a majority of 212 – to defy a ruling from the ECHR that the ban must be overturned.
Dozens of Conservative backbenchers lined up to insist that after decades of toeing the line, the time has come for Britain to tell unelected Strasbourg judges that they have overstepped their authority.
Experts said the vote left Britain's relationship with the European court in 'uncharted territory'. It places the Prime Minister under intense pressure to launch a defining challenge against Strasbourg.
Proposing the cross-party motion which ­'supports the current situation in which no prisoner is able to vote', former Tory shadow home secretary David Davis said: 'The ­general point is very clear in this country: that is that it takes a pretty serious crime to get yourself sent to prison.
And as a result you have broken the contract with society to such a serious extent that you have lost all of those rights: your that you have lost all of those rights: your liberty and your right to vote.'
And Dominic Raab, Tory MP for Esher and Walton, who also initiated last night's debate, said: 'It is time to draw a line in the sand. It's time we send a very clear message: this House will decide whether prisoners get the vote, this House will decide the laws of the land.'
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13...l#ixzz1DfhpYexy
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...Of course there will be more SPLITS between EU States against 'THEIR FEDERAL' rulings and policies. Thought I'd put in the LINK below for Yaeger's Topic on Switzerland. Although the Swiss are not IN the EU, they certainly are in Europe and tend to be a barometer for many things in that area. So, enjoy the read from this Link too and extrapolate/'S'
