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[Yaeger]

ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

November 13th 2009

JPFO ALERT: BRITISH SOLDIER LEARNS NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE


Americans need to learn the same lesson. We recently received a
letter from Dan Gifford's 2A Group, reporting on the insane gun
control laws in the UK that could very well come to America. Go
here -
http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/news/Ex...il/article.html
- (or JPFO archive page -
http://www.jpfo.org/articles-assd/never-talk.htm )

We also suggest you watch a video telling people just why they
should not talk to the police without representation -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc.

Be sure to learn from both and protect yourself.

This alert, on JPFO -
http://www.jpfo.org/alerts03/alert20091113b.htm
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Ex-soldier faces jail for handing in gun
Saturday, November 14, 2009, 12:15
A former soldier who handed a discarded shotgun in to police faces at least five years imprisonment for "doing his duty".

Paul Clarke, 27, was found guilty of possessing a firearm at Guildford Crown Court on Tuesday – after finding the gun and handing it personally to police officers on March 20 this year.
The jury took 20 minutes to make its conviction, and Mr Clarke now faces a minimum of five year's imprisonment for handing in the weapon.
In a statement read out in court, Mr Clarke said: "I didn't think for one moment I would be arrested.
"I thought it was my duty to hand it in and get it off the streets."

The court heard how Mr Clarke was on the balcony of his home in Nailsworth Crescent, Merstham, when he spotted a black bin liner at the bottom of his garden.
In his statement, he said: "I took it indoors and inside found a shorn-off shotgun and two cartridges.
"I didn't know what to do, so the next morning I rang the Chief Superintendent, Adrian Harper, and asked if I could pop in and see him.
"At the police station, I took the gun out of the bag and placed it on the table so it was pointing towards the wall."
Mr Clarke was then arrested immediately for possession of a firearm at Reigate police station, and taken to the cells.
Defending, Lionel Blackman told the jury Mr Clarke's garden backs onto a public green field, and his garden wall is significantly lower than his neighbours.
He also showed jurors a leaflet printed by Surrey Police explaining to citizens what they can do at a police station, which included "reporting found firearms".
Quizzing officer Garnett, who arrested Mr Clarke, he asked: "Are you aware of any notice issued by Surrey Police, or any publicity given to, telling citizens that if they find a firearm the only thing they should do is not touch it, report it by telephone, and not take it into a police station?"
To which, Mr Garnett replied: "No, I don't believe so."
Prosecuting, Brian Stalk, explained to the jury that possession of a firearm was a "strict liability" charge – therefore Mr Clarke's allegedly honest intent was irrelevant.
Just by having the gun in his possession he was guilty of the charge, and has no defence in law against it, he added.
But despite this, Mr Blackman urged members of the jury to consider how they would respond if they found a gun.
He said: "This is a very small case with a very big principle.
"You could be walking to a railway station on the way to work and find a firearm in a bin in the park.
"Is it unreasonable to take it to the police station?"
Paul Clarke will be sentenced on December 11.
Judge Christopher Critchlow said: "This is an unusual case, but in law there is no dispute that Mr Clarke has no defence to this charge.
"The intention of anybody possessing a firearm is irrelevant."


The time has come to push for more liberal gun laws in Britain and elsewhere to replace the insane and restrictive existing Socialist-style gun-control laws previous governments have imposed on the people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKdBxpKqUvs

Free Paul Clark now! Don't let him rot in jail for having done his duty by handing a found firearm to police!

[simple simon]

I'm not surprised.

He *thought* he was *doing his duty*. That makes him a 'do-gooder' who had no understanding of whats really going on.

Of course its a miscarriage of justice, but the authorities have no way of knowing if he really is telling the truth or just trying to dispose of something he previously owned and used.

The trouble is that even if he had of phoned the police and they had come to collect it, he would still have been treated as if a criminal. In other words, he should have buried it and said nothing (making sure that his fingerprints are not even on the outer wrapping). That way the criminals will not know where it is and there will be nothing for the police to find.

...and if in years to come it had of been found then because it was buried it will be harder to prove that he knew about it.

Simon

[skylark]

simple simon, on Nov 17 2009, 10:51 PM, said:

I'm not surprised.

He *thought* he was *doing his duty*. That makes him a 'do-gooder' who had no understanding of whats really going on.

Of course its a miscarriage of justice, but the authorities have no way of knowing if he really is telling the truth or just trying to dispose of something he previously owned and used.

The trouble is that even if he had of phoned the police and they had come to collect it, he would still have been treated as if a criminal. In other words, he should have buried it and said nothing (making sure that his fingerprints are not even on the outer wrapping). That way the criminals will not know where it is and there will be nothing for the police to find.

...and if in years to come it had of been found then because it was buried it will be harder to prove that he knew about it.

Simon

*OH...great analysis Simon,
...Do think you 'Nailed It'. Guess we should all be 'mindful' of the adage...'No good deed, if that's what it was, goes unpunished'. Tah/'S'

[Yaeger]

You are correct Simon. It may be best not to talk to the system police at all. But still, questions need to be raised about Britain's (and Ireland's) insane and highly oppressive gun control laws, which serve nobody but the corrupt establishment's figureheads and their Illuminati / NWO goons puppet masters.

simple simon, on Nov 17 2009, 10:51 PM, said:

I'm not surprised.

He *thought* he was *doing his duty*. That makes him a 'do-gooder' who had no understanding of whats really going on.

Of course its a miscarriage of justice, but the authorities have no way of knowing if he really is telling the truth or just trying to dispose of something he previously owned and used.

The trouble is that even if he had of phoned the police and they had come to collect it, he would still have been treated as if a criminal. In other words, he should have buried it and said nothing (making sure that his fingerprints are not even on the outer wrapping). That way the criminals will not know where it is and there will be nothing for the police to find.

...and if in years to come it had of been found then because it was buried it will be harder to prove that he knew about it.

Simon

[Seth Haniel]

My understaning of the law is unless there is an armistace - you cannot hand a weapon in

Maybe there should be more armistaces

[simple simon]

Seth Haniel, on Nov 20 2009, 09:43 AM, said:

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Maybe there should be more armistaces

Seth,

I agree, yes.

Simon

[Yaeger]

Seth Haniel, on Nov 20 2009, 09:43 AM, said:

My understaning of the law is unless there is an armistace - you cannot hand a weapon in

Maybe there should be more armistaces

In this case people should keep their weapons to be sure their former opponent will not violate the truce. The saying, "Those who hammer their swords into plows will plow for those who didn't", comes to mind here.