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[Yaeger]

Conservatives Pledge To "Never" Join The Euro

http://www.coircampaign.org/index.php/news.../296-consnoeuro


Cóir Date: 20.04.2010

As campaigning gets underway in Britain, leading up to the general election on 6 May, the Conservative party have published its election manifesto, vowing to take significant measures to preserve and reclaim as much sovereignty as possible from the EU. They have also vowed to "never" join the Eurozone.

In the manifesto, published this past Tuesday, the party reiterates its longstanding preference for an intergovernmental approach to politics in Europe, saying: "We believe Britain's interests are best served by membership of a European Union that is an association of its member states."

And this "co-operation, not federation" stance is supported by the policy proposed in the document. In one instance, the party promises voters that it will introduce a "sovereignty bill" which will declare that "ultimate authority" rests with the British Parliament, not with Brussels. And in another instance, the party promises to re-negotiate the opt-out "guarantees" they got from Brussels on the Charter of Fundamental Rights in the areas of criminal justice and in social and employment legislation.

Ultimately, on this question, the Conservatives are very clearly seeking to repatriate competencies already given over to the EU, saying: "We seek a mandate to negotiate the return of these powers from the EU to the UK."

Cóir spokesman, Manus MacMeanmain, had this to say about the publication of the Conservative election manifesto: "Usually, I wouldn't bother myself too much about what English politicians have to say, especially because of our past relationship. But, looking at their manifesto from an objective point-of-view, one senses that we may be actually turning the corner in one of the EU's big countries. The Conservatives seem to have realised that the British people are not willing to do whatever they are told in the name of 'ever-closer union.' They have also seemed to realise that the true principle of subsidiarity – not the twisted notion promoted by the EU in the Lisbon Treaty – is actually of benefit to the people of Britain. One size clearly doesn't fit all. And though I'm certainly not saying that I agree with the Conservatives on other policy matters, I do think that this is helpful."

"Finally, did anyone notice this small, but significant detail? Even though the British have opted-out of the Charter, the Conservatives do not believe their so-called "guarantees" are water-tight. I hope this rings a bell with Irish voters about the so-called "guarantees" which the Irish Government were given on aspects of the Lisbon Treaty. Cóir tried to hammer the message home in the second Lisbon campaign, that our "guarantees" were not legally-binding. Apparently, the Conservatives also believe they were sold a pig-in-a-poke. Of course, the obvious difference between those seeking power in the Conservative campaign and our Irish politicians is that the English are not completely delusional about the apparent benefits and real costs which the EU both offers and demands."

[simple simon]

if, as some sources suggest is likely, the next few years see major war and or tctonic etc upheavals, so then these pledges may become worthless.

Simon

[skylark]

Yaeger, on Apr 22 2010, 11:46 PM, said:

Conservatives Pledge To "Never" Join The Euro

http://www.coircampaign.org/index.php/news.../296-consnoeuro


Cóir Date: 20.04.2010

As campaigning gets underway in Britain, leading up to the general election on 6 May, the Conservative party have published its election manifesto, vowing to take significant measures to preserve and reclaim as much sovereignty as possible from the EU. They have also vowed to "never" join the Eurozone.

In the manifesto, published this past Tuesday, the party reiterates its longstanding preference for an intergovernmental approach to politics in Europe, saying: "We believe Britain's interests are best served by membership of a European Union that is an association of its member states."

And this "co-operation, not federation" stance is supported by the policy proposed in the document. In one instance, the party promises voters that it will introduce a "sovereignty bill" which will declare that "ultimate authority" rests with the British Parliament, not with Brussels. And in another instance, the party promises to re-negotiate the opt-out "guarantees" they got from Brussels on the Charter of Fundamental Rights in the areas of criminal justice and in social and employment legislation.

Ultimately, on this question, the Conservatives are very clearly seeking to repatriate competencies already given over to the EU, saying: "We seek a mandate to negotiate the return of these powers from the EU to the UK."

Cóir spokesman, Manus MacMeanmain, had this to say about the publication of the Conservative election manifesto: "Usually, I wouldn't bother myself too much about what English politicians have to say, especially because of our past relationship. But, looking at their manifesto from an objective point-of-view, one senses that we may be actually turning the corner in one of the EU's big countries. The Conservatives seem to have realised that the British people are not willing to do whatever they are told in the name of 'ever-closer union.' They have also seemed to realise that the true principle of subsidiarity – not the twisted notion promoted by the EU in the Lisbon Treaty – is actually of benefit to the people of Britain. One size clearly doesn't fit all. And though I'm certainly not saying that I agree with the Conservatives on other policy matters, I do think that this is helpful."

"Finally, did anyone notice this small, but significant detail? Even though the British have opted-out of the Charter, the Conservatives do not believe their so-called "guarantees" are water-tight. I hope this rings a bell with Irish voters about the so-called "guarantees" which the Irish Government were given on aspects of the Lisbon Treaty. Cóir tried to hammer the message home in the second Lisbon campaign, that our "guarantees" were not legally-binding. Apparently, the Conservatives also believe they were sold a pig-in-a-poke. Of course, the obvious difference between those seeking power in the Conservative campaign and our Irish politicians is that the English are not completely delusional about the apparent benefits and real costs which the EU both offers and demands."

*YO Yaeger,
...Yep 'Rings A Bell' in our Camp alright. Can't see any British Party making any 'WAKE' for the EU/Lisbon, which they didn't even allow their 'SUBJECTS' to vote on. Not many of 'The People' even understand that their 'Nation Hood' is Gone. Now it's 'Underground Revolution' by home grown groups.
BTW...Damned nice to have you back, & wonder what's up with you? Missed your 'Face'/Topics/Comments around here. Thanks/'S'

[captain]

skylark, on Apr 23 2010, 01:29 AM, said:

*YO Yaeger,
...Yep 'Rings A Bell' in our Camp alright. Can't see any British Party making any 'WAKE' for the EU/Lisbon, which they didn't even allow their 'SUBJECTS' to vote on. Not many of 'The People' even understand that their 'Nation Hood' is Gone. Now it's 'Underground Revolution' by home grown groups.
BTW...Damned nice to have you back, & wonder what's up with you? Missed your 'Face'/Topics/Comments around here. Thanks/'S'

-Hi All,
_Away for awhile myself. As for 'The British Pound Sterling'-it's ALWAYS been artificially inflated, with no reflection of any true Intrinsic value-being controlled by NWO/Illuminati group Peoples since its inception. London Banks have historically controlled world trade/commerce/and corruption-Hump-Captain

[Yaeger]

skylark, on Apr 23 2010, 01:29 AM, said:

*YO Yaeger,
...Yep 'Rings A Bell' in our Camp alright. Can't see any British Party making any 'WAKE' for the EU/Lisbon, which they didn't even allow their 'SUBJECTS' to vote on. Not many of 'The People' even understand that their 'Nation Hood' is Gone. Now it's 'Underground Revolution' by home grown groups.
BTW...Damned nice to have you back, & wonder what's up with you? Missed your 'Face'/Topics/Comments around here. Thanks/'S'

Had a lot of other things to do over the last few weeks. I spent a lot of time outdoors as well, making the best of the current dry spell. But I am back, still fighting the NWO and Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein 'The long legged mack daddy' Obama on all fronts.

[Yaeger]

The best thing that could happen in the upcoming U.K. election is a hung parliament. I hope UKIP is doing very well. I don't care too much for the BNP - too many Nazi skeletons in their closet. But a vote for the LibLabCon show is a wasted vote. Last year the Tories promised to hold a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty if they get to 10 Downing Street. But they already went back on their promise.They are all the same those big establishment parties

[skylark]

Yaeger, on Apr 23 2010, 08:50 PM, said:

The best thing that could happen in the upcoming U.K. election is a hung parliament. I hope UKIP is doing very well. I don't care too much for the BNP - too many Nazi skeletons in their closet. But a vote for the LibLabCon show is a wasted vote. Last year the Tories promised to hold a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty if they get to 10 Downing Street. But they already went back on their promise.They are all the same those big establishment parties

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[simple simon]

skylark, on Jun 5 2010, 04:37 PM, said:

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…Here are some numbers presented humorously - but accurately.
In two minutes…BY watching the Video Link below…you'll know more
about what's really going on than from reading every issue of the Wall Street Journal from cover to cover. REALLY, what's happening to the Euro/Dollar? And, it's FUN too/'S'

Visit My Website

I think thats the video of a transcript I saw somewhere. Its more fun in this format.

So, its sell, sell, sell, until so much is sold that its time to say bye, bye and then buy.

Simon