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[skylark]

BP OIL SPILL- VIDEO GULF OF MEXICO- WHAT REALLY HAPPENED

-COULD N. KOREA HAVE TORPEDOED THIS OIL RIG?-

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EU Times: 'U.S. Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig'

*'Sweeps' NOTE 3 UPDATE-WARNING:
...BP HAS NOW BOUGHT 'GOOGLE WORD SEARCH ENGINE'. See note in the Replies section and the Link to the 'Examiner' Article/'S'

*'Sweeps' NOTE 2 UPDATE:
…If this 'be true', the sorry events with North Korea have hit a whole new 'Scale'. Are 'NUKES' BEING READIED? After 'their' torpedoing of a South Korean war ship was confirmed, does this…if it is…new escalation mean a NEW WAR in the Pacific. They DO seem to like submarines folks. Well, take in this report…and see what comes of it. Watch the world News for OTHER related events/issues now taking place. South Korea and the US have both threatened retaliation over the torpedoing of the S. Korean Ship, and N. Korea says it will mean 'All Out War'. Hmmm. Look what we've go forward to look for/'S'

THE STORY:

A grim report circulating in the Kremlin today written by Russia's Northern Fleet is reporting that the United States has ordered a complete media blackout over North Korea's torpedoing of the giant Deepwater Horizon oil platform owned by the World's largest offshore drilling contractor Transocean that was built and financed by South Korea's Hyundai Heavy Industries Co. Ltd., that has caused great loss of life, untold billions in economic damage to the South Korean economy, and an environmental catastrophe to the United States.

Most important to understand about this latest attack by North Korea against its South Korean enemy is that under the existing "laws of war" it was a permissible action as they remain in a state of war against each other due to South Korea's refusal to sign the 1953 Armistice ending the Korean War.

To the attack itself, these reports continue, the North Korean "cargo vessel" Dai Hong Dan believed to be staffed by 17th Sniper Corps "suicide" troops left Cuba's Empresa Terminales Mambisas de La Habana (Port of Havana) on April 18th whereupon it "severely deviated" from its intended course for Venezuela's Puerto Cabello bringing it to within 209 kilometers (130 miles) of the Deepwater Horizon oil platform which was located 80 kilometers (50 miles) off the coast of the US State of Louisiana where it launched an SSC Sang-o Class Mini Submarine (Yugo class) estimated to have an operational range of 321 kilometers (200 miles).

On the night of April 20th the North Korean Mini Submarine manned by these "suicidal" 17th Sniper Corps soldiers attacked the Deepwater Horizon with what are believed to be 2 incendiary torpedoes causing a massive explosion and resulting in 11 workers on this giant oil rig being killed outright. Barely 48 hours later, on April 22nd , this North Korean Mini Submarine committed its final atrocity by exploding itself directly beneath the Deepwater Horizon causing this $1 Billion oil rig to sink beneath the seas and marking 2010's celebration of Earth Day with one of the largest environmental catastrophes our World has ever seen.

To the reason for North Korea attacking the Deepwater Horizon, these reports say, was to present US President Obama with an "impossible dilemma" prior to the opening of the United Nations Review Conference of the Parties to the Treat on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) set to begin May 3rd in New York.

This "impossible dilemma" facing Obama is indeed real as the decision he is faced with is either to allow the continuation of this massive oil leak catastrophe to continue for months, or immediately stop it by the only known and proven means possible, the detonation of a thermonuclear device.

Russian Navy atomic experts in these reports state that should Obama choose the "nuclear option" the most viable weapon at his disposal is the United States B83 (Mk-83) strategic thermonuclear bomb having a variable yield (Low Kiloton Range to 1,200 Kilotons) which with its 12 foot length and 18 inch diameter, and weighing just over 2,400 pounds, is readily able to be deployed and detonated by a remote controlled mini-sub.

Should Obama choose the "nuclear option" it appears that he would be supported by the International Court of Justice who on July 8, 1996 issued an advisory opinion on the use of nuclear weapons stating that they could not conclude definitively on these weapons use in "extreme circumstances" or "self defense".

On the other hand, if Obama chooses the "nuclear option" it would leave the UN's nuclear conference in shambles with every Nation in the World having oil rigs off their coasts demanding an equal right to atomic weapons to protect their environment from catastrophes too, including Iran.

To whatever decision Obama makes it remains a fact that with each passing hour this environmental catastrophe grows worse. And even though Obama has ordered military SWAT teams to protect other oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico from any further attack, and further ordered that all drilling in the Gulf of Mexico be immediately stopped, this massive oil spill has already reached the shores of America and with high waves and more bad weather forecast the likelihood of it being stopped from destroying thousands of miles of US coastland and wildlife appears unstoppable.

And not just to the environmental catastrophe that is unfolding the only devastation to be wrecked upon the United States and South Korea by this North Korean attack as the economic liabilities associated with this disaster are estimated by these Russian reports to be between $500 Billion to $1.5 Trillion, and which only a declaration of this disaster being an "act of war" would free some the World's largest corporations from bankruptcy.

Important to note too in all of these events was that this was the second attack by North Korea on its South Korean enemy, and US ally, in a month as we had reported on in our March 28th report titled "Obama Orders 'Immediate Stand-down' After Deadly North Korean Attack" and which to date neither the Americans or South Korea have retaliated for and giving one senior North Korean party leader the courage to openly state that the North Korean military took "gratifying revenge" on South Korea.

And for those believing that things couldn't get worse, they couldn't be more mistaken as new reports coming from Japanese military sources are stating that North Korea is preparing for new launches of its 1,300 kilometer (807 miles) intermediate range ballistic "Rodong" missile which Russian Space Forces experts state is able to "deploy and detonate" an atomic electromagnetic pulse (EMP) device, and which if detonated high in the atmosphere could effectively destroy the American economy for years, if not decades, to come.


*'Sweeps' NOTE 1;
…Want some FACTS on the background of the OIL Spill/environmental Disaster? The New York Times recently characterized the oil spill as a 'natural disaster'. They've not only got it ALL WRONG, but it shows how the Big Media 'covers up' the real investigative facts. Here, below in the VIDEO is what we are going to show/tell you about:
1. It didn't need to happen in the first place…IF BP had taken the steps they NEVER take
2. The damage could have been fully contained on the first day…IF BP 'cared'
3. Government/Political…and media….corruption made the whole economic and ecological catastrophe possible/'S'

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[Yaeger]

Another case of globalist corporate interest groups and the liberal media working hand in hand.

[skylark]

Yaeger, on May 8 2010, 10:30 AM, said:

Another case of globalist corporate interest groups and the liberal media working hand in hand.

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…Well Yaeger and ALL. Now we KNOW, the federal agency that regulates offshore rigs changed its rules "two years ago" to exempt certain projects in the central Gulf region.

Read below and Weap. This would be the same thing as if…the Pharmaceutical companies being exempt from any harm caused by their shots. Somebody has a plan and purpose./'S'

Petrochemical giant BP didn't file a plan to specifically handle a major oil spill from an uncontrolled blowout at its Deepwater Horizon project because the federal agency that regulates offshore rigs changed its rules two years ago to exempt certain projects in the central Gulf region, according to an Associated Press review of official records.

The Minerals Management Service, an arm of the Interior Department known for its cozy relationship with major oil companies, says it issued the rule relief because some of the industry wide mandates weren't practical for all of the exploratory and production projects operating in the Gulf region.

The blowout rule, the fact that it was lifted in April 2008 for rigs that didn't fit at least one of five conditions, and confusion about whether the BP Deepwater Horizon project was covered by the regulation, caught the attention of Interior Secretary Ken Salazar.

Following a tour of a boom operation in Gulf Shores, Ala., Salazar said Wednesday that he understood BP was required to file plans for coping with a blowout at the well that failed.
'My understanding is that everything was in its proper place', said Salazar.

But an AP review of government and BP documents found that the company had not filed a specific comprehensive blowout plan for the rig that exploded April 20, leaving 11 workers dead and spewing an estimated 210,000 gallons of oil a day.

Instead, a site-specific exploration plan filed by BP in February 2009 stated that it was "not required" to file "a scenario for a potential blowout" of the Deepwater well.
When questioned about the exemption claim, BP spokesman William Salvin said provisions for handling a blowout incident were actually included in the firm's 582-page region oil spill plan, though he had difficulty pointing to specific passages.

He later maintained that the Deepwater location was not subject to the blowout scenario requirements because it triggered none of the conditions cited in the MMS's April 2008 notice to operators about a loosening of the rules.

The lack of a specific plan for the Deepwater project raises questions about whether BP could have been better prepared to deal with the ongoing disaster and whether MMS is fulfilling its regulatory oversight.

Robert Wiygul, an Ocean Springs, Miss., environmental lawyer, said the lack of a blowout scenario "is kind of an outrageous omission, because you're drilling in extremely deep waters, where by definition you're looking for very large reservoirs to justify the cost."

"If the MMS was allowing companies to drill in this ultra-deep situation without a blowout scenario, then it seems clear they weren't doing the job they were tasked with," he said. "The MMS can't change the law just by telling people that they don't have to comply with it. I think it really indicates that somebody at MMS was asleep at the switch on this."

In its 2009 exploration plan for the Deepwater Horizon site, BP strongly discounted the possibility of a catastrophic accident. Similarly, Shell's environmental impact analysis for its Beaufort Sea drilling plan asserts that the possibility of a "large liquid hydrocarbon spill ... is regarded as too remote and speculative to be considered a reasonably foreseeable impacting event."

The Deepwater Horizon disaster is not the first time MMS has been criticized as being too close to the oil industry.

In 2008, the Interior Department took disciplinary action against eight MMS employees who accepted lavish gifts, partied and - in some cases - had sex with employees from the energy companies they regulated. An investigation cited a "culture of substance abuse and promiscuity" involving employees in the agency's Denver office.

MMS workers were given upgraded ethics training.
Associated Press Writer Richard T. Pienciak reported from Atlanta; AP Writer Jay Reeves reported from Gulf Shores, Alaska.

[skylark]

skylark, on May 8 2010, 11:27 PM, said:

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…Well Yaeger and ALL. Now we KNOW, the federal agency that regulates offshore rigs changed its rules "two years ago" to exempt certain projects in the central Gulf region.

Read below and Weap. This would be the same thing as if…the Pharmaceutical companies being exempt from any harm caused by their shots. Somebody has a plan and purpose./'S'

Petrochemical giant BP didn't file a plan to specifically handle a major oil spill from an uncontrolled blowout at its Deepwater Horizon project because the federal agency that regulates offshore rigs changed its rules two years ago to exempt certain projects in the central Gulf region, according to an Associated Press review of official records.

The Minerals Management Service, an arm of the Interior Department known for its cozy relationship with major oil companies, says it issued the rule relief because some of the industry wide mandates weren't practical for all of the exploratory and production projects operating in the Gulf region.

The blowout rule, the fact that it was lifted in April 2008 for rigs that didn't fit at least one of five conditions, and confusion about whether the BP Deepwater Horizon project was covered by the regulation, caught the attention of Interior Secretary Ken Salazar.

Following a tour of a boom operation in Gulf Shores, Ala., Salazar said Wednesday that he understood BP was required to file plans for coping with a blowout at the well that failed.
'My understanding is that everything was in its proper place', said Salazar.

But an AP review of government and BP documents found that the company had not filed a specific comprehensive blowout plan for the rig that exploded April 20, leaving 11 workers dead and spewing an estimated 210,000 gallons of oil a day.

Instead, a site-specific exploration plan filed by BP in February 2009 stated that it was "not required" to file "a scenario for a potential blowout" of the Deepwater well.
When questioned about the exemption claim, BP spokesman William Salvin said provisions for handling a blowout incident were actually included in the firm's 582-page region oil spill plan, though he had difficulty pointing to specific passages.

He later maintained that the Deepwater location was not subject to the blowout scenario requirements because it triggered none of the conditions cited in the MMS's April 2008 notice to operators about a loosening of the rules.

The lack of a specific plan for the Deepwater project raises questions about whether BP could have been better prepared to deal with the ongoing disaster and whether MMS is fulfilling its regulatory oversight.

Robert Wiygul, an Ocean Springs, Miss., environmental lawyer, said the lack of a blowout scenario "is kind of an outrageous omission, because you're drilling in extremely deep waters, where by definition you're looking for very large reservoirs to justify the cost."

"If the MMS was allowing companies to drill in this ultra-deep situation without a blowout scenario, then it seems clear they weren't doing the job they were tasked with," he said. "The MMS can't change the law just by telling people that they don't have to comply with it. I think it really indicates that somebody at MMS was asleep at the switch on this."

In its 2009 exploration plan for the Deepwater Horizon site, BP strongly discounted the possibility of a catastrophic accident. Similarly, Shell's environmental impact analysis for its Beaufort Sea drilling plan asserts that the possibility of a "large liquid hydrocarbon spill ... is regarded as too remote and speculative to be considered a reasonably foreseeable impacting event."

The Deepwater Horizon disaster is not the first time MMS has been criticized as being too close to the oil industry.

In 2008, the Interior Department took disciplinary action against eight MMS employees who accepted lavish gifts, partied and - in some cases - had sex with employees from the energy companies they regulated. An investigation cited a "culture of substance abuse and promiscuity" involving employees in the agency's Denver office.

MMS workers were given upgraded ethics training.
Associated Press Writer Richard T. Pienciak reported from Atlanta; AP Writer Jay Reeves reported from Gulf Shores, Alaska.

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…Don't believe ALL Oil companies are crooks and thugs? In Ireland we know all about it. Check out the VIDEO below of what we've had to deal with/go through with Shell Oil. If it doesn't disgust you, perhaps you support these 'NWO' gangs. Thanks/'S'

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[skylark]

skylark, on May 9 2010, 02:05 PM, said:

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…Don't believe ALL Oil companies are crooks and thugs? In Ireland we know all about it. Check out the VIDEO below of what we've had to deal with/go through with Shell Oil. If it doesn't disgust you, perhaps you support these 'NWO' gangs. Thanks/'S'

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*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…How about a Cheap/easy/highly effective way to CONTAIN/PICK UP the 'Oil Slick' in the Gulf? Would YOU go for it….want that? Don't even imagine that your 'Biggy' Oil Companies would consider such a thing at all. They are NOT ENVIRONMENTALISTS…are they?

OK, without further adieux, have a GOOD look at how 'American Redneck' thinking has come up with a solution to solve the SPILL and to preserve Nature. Feedback here would be nice & where did YOU and Yaeger go on this important event/story. I seem to be the only one interested??/'S'

*CLICK below on the 'My Website' Link for this economical/workable/easy way:

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[skylark]

skylark, on May 12 2010, 07:21 PM, said:

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…How about a Cheap/easy/highly effective way to CONTAIN/PICK UP the 'Oil Slick' in the Gulf? Would YOU go for it….want that? Don't even imagine that your 'Biggy' Oil Companies would consider such a thing at all. They are NOT ENVIRONMENTALISTS…are they?

OK, without further adieux, have a GOOD look at how 'American Redneck' thinking has come up with a solution to solve the SPILL and to preserve Nature. Feedback here would be nice & where did YOU and Yaeger go on this important event/story. I seem to be the only one interested??/'S'

*CLICK below on the 'My Website' Link for this economical/workable/easy way:

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*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…Someone BETTER do it the American 'Red Neck' way…check my Just previous REPLY and see. But now in reflection also note…It was most likely sabotage. It was insane to ever penetrate the Earth's crust in the first place. I dont think anyone on the planet has the authority to give someone permission to breach the Earth's crust. Check out what this 'Oil Spill' looks like on the 'My Website' Link below. Help us Hannah/'S'

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[simple simon]

http://preview.bloom...d=huffbloomberg

http://tinyurl.com/289sj3b

U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu signaled his lack of confidence in the industry experts trying to control BP Plc’s leaking oil well by hand-picking a team of scientists with reputations for creative problem solving.

Dispatched to Houston by President Barack Obama to deal with the crisis, Chu said Wednesday that five “extraordinarily intelligent” scientists from around the country will help BP and industry experts think of back-up plans to cut off oil from the well, leaking 5,000 feet (1,500 meters) below sea-level.

Members of the Chu team are credited with accomplishments including designing the first hydrogen bomb, **inventing techniques for mining on Mars** and finding a way to precisely position biomedical needles….

<snip>
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(I've highlighted the significant text)

erm, I did not know that we were mining on Mars...

what?

since when?

how do we get the materials back to Earth? (Using the 'jump rooms'? the space capable aircraft Gary McKinnon discovered when he hacked in to Nasa??)

Curious Simon

[skylark]

simple simon, on May 14 2010, 09:51 PM, said:

http://preview.bloom...d=huffbloomberg

http://tinyurl.com/289sj3b

U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu signaled his lack of confidence in the industry experts trying to control BP Plc's leaking oil well by hand-picking a team of scientists with reputations for creative problem solving.

Dispatched to Houston by President Barack Obama to deal with the crisis, Chu said Wednesday that five "extraordinarily intelligent" scientists from around the country will help BP and industry experts think of back-up plans to cut off oil from the well, leaking 5,000 feet (1,500 meters) below sea-level.

Members of the Chu team are credited with accomplishments including designing the first hydrogen bomb, **inventing techniques for mining on Mars** and finding a way to precisely position biomedical needles….

<snip>
--------------------------------------
(I've highlighted the significant text)

erm, I did not know that we were mining on Mars...

what?

since when?

how do we get the materials back to Earth? (Using the 'jump rooms'? the space capable aircraft Gary McKinnon discovered when he hacked in to Nasa??)

Curious Simon

*JUST 'UPDATED' the 1st Page of this Topic,
...A wHOLE NEW TWIST TO THIS. Is the US 'Hushing up' facts that North Korean actuall Torpedoed this Oil Rig. Reports are NOW coming out...that this might be the case. Check out the story UPDATE on the 1st Page. Thanks/'S'

[simple simon]

skylark, on May 24 2010, 02:04 PM, said:

*JUST 'UPDATED' the 1st Page of this Topic,
...A wHOLE NEW TWIST TO THIS. Is the US 'Hushing up' facts that North Korean actuall Torpedoed this Oil Rig. Reports are NOW coming out...that this might be the case. Check out the story UPDATE on the 1st Page. Thanks/'S'

Obama MUST NOT nuke it.

If he does, how can he be sure that it will work - without any other (even worse) side effects - such as earthquakes? Dare he trust advisors whose true intents may be different from what they say verbally?

Simon

[skylark]

simple simon, on May 24 2010, 03:40 PM, said:

Obama MUST NOT nuke it.

If he does, how can he be sure that it will work - without any other (even worse) side effects - such as earthquakes? Dare he trust advisors whose true intents may be different from what they say verbally?

Simon

*Hey Simon,
...Don't imagine that you've read the UPDATE on the 1st Page of this topic?
Your'e not addressing the new development. I do know about 'Obams's' plan to 'Nuke' the Rig...but that's on 'delay', while 'they' sort out who's really responsible...the N. Koreans? Best/'S'

[simple simon]

Indeed I did Sweeps, altho' I only commented on the idea that Obama might agree with the use of nuke weapons to try and stop the oil leak in the GOM. My concern is that in doing this there could be unexpected side effects, such as the vibrations causing the New Madrid to show signs of activity. His advisors might convince him to do this because their true desire is to kill off the baby boomers who are now reaching retirement age - so will stop paying tax, and instead start drawing benefits - as well as wanting a global population level as advocated at the Georgia Guidestones.

What I've also done is link to this thread on a thread on one of the Earthboppin boards.

Along with the Middle East the Korean situation is perhaps the other major unresolved hangover from the post WW2 period. I would wish that the resolution would be as peaceable as that of the Berlin Wall.

Alas I think that my wish will not come to pass, and instead the result will include rivers of human blood and (south of the boder) an attempt at a Pol Pot style resetting of the calendar to year zero.

(I remember 1974, was a schoolboy at the time, and horrified at what I saw on the TV and how no-one stopped the nightmare)

Simon

Edited by simple simon, 24 May 2010 - 07:17 PM.

[skylark]

simple simon, on May 24 2010, 08:10 PM, said:

Indeed I did Sweeps, altho' I only commented on the idea that Obama might agree with the use of nuke weapons to try and stop the oil leak in the GOM. My concern is that in doing this there could be unexpected side effects, such as the vibrations causing the New Madrid to show signs of activity. His advisors might convince him to do this because their true desire is to kill off the baby boomers who are now reaching retirement age - so will stop paying tax, and instead start drawing benefits - as well as wanting a global population level as advocated at the Georgia Guidestones.

What I've also done is link to this thread on a thread on one of the Earthboppin boards.

Along with the Middle East the Korean situation is perhaps the other major unresolved hangover from the post WW2 period. I would wish that the resolution would be as peaceable as that of the Berlin Wall.

Alas I think that my wish will not come to pass, and instead the result will include rivers of human blood and (south of the boder) an attempt at a Pol Pot style resetting of the calendar to year zero.

(I remember 1974, was a schoolboy at the time, and horrified at what I saw on the TV and how no-one stopped the nightmare)

Simon

*Simon,
...Ain't gonna happen...the NUKE. Obama won't feature going down in history using one near the USA. But, and here's the scary part, NO War with N. Korea can be fought without NUKES. In back of the DMZ is the 2nd largest standing Army in the world, totaling 750 thousand Troops/Armor...and another Million or so around N. Korea. ANY War...will be a NUKE one and last about 30 seconds UNLESS ET's intervene/'S'

[simple simon]

Sweeps,

I just re-read your opening msg and realise that you also meant the US using nukes in Korea...

What about Tibetans RV'ing ET's stopping us humans having a nuke war? Over the years this has been all over the net.

I hope people realise that if we nuke N Korea then depending on which way the winds blows the fallout China may become involved. Thats physical fallout, the political fallout will be something else.

Why cant the US army just use the weapons it used in Iraq, weapons which turned tens of thousands of troops to dust... just use it on the leaders, leaving the ordinary people alone (at least providing they get the message and stop fighting). Much better than nukes.

Simon (lamenting your not having an emoticon for scared).

ps. just quoted this page at the Goldenthread.

Edited by simple simon, 24 May 2010 - 08:25 PM.

[skylark]

simple simon, on May 24 2010, 08:47 PM, said:

Sweeps,

I just re-read your opening msg and realise that you also meant nukes in Korea.

What about Tibetans RV'ing ET's stopping us humans having a nuke war? Over the years this has been all over the net.

I hope people realise that if we nuke N Korea then depending on which way the winds blows the fallout China may become involved. Thats physical fallout, the political fallout will be something else.

Why cant the US army just use the weapons it used in Iraq, weapons which turned tens of thousands of troops to dust... just use it on the leaders, leaving the ordinary people alone (at least providing they get the message and stop fighting). Much better than nukes.

Simon (lamenting your not having an emoticon for scared).

ps. just quoted this page at the Goldenthread.

*Simon and All,
...Well, didn't want to Suggest Nukes be used in Korea. 'They' could be hit with SCALAR Weapons...no radiation.
But, as per your insight, would love to spare civilians...so if in the position would 'go all out' to neutralize the N. Korean Armed Forces with Scalar weapony ASAP. Funny/cum maybe Ironic that the ET's haven't done a dam thing about the use of Scalar technology planet wide. We know it has been used, practiced, and exercised...with out any seeming protest demonstration by ET's.
Any war in Asia...MUST be quick/decisive/& NOT a Land War...as General Douglas McArthur so intelligently stated/'S'

[captain]

skylark, on May 24 2010, 09:25 PM, said:

*Simon and All,
...Well, didn't want to Suggest Nukes be used in Korea. 'They' could be hit with SCALAR Weapons...no radiation.
But, as per your insight, would love to spare civilians...so if in the position would 'go all out' to neutralize the N. Korean Armed Forces with Scalar weapony ASAP. Funny/cum maybe Ironic that the ET's haven't done a dam thing about the use of Scalar technology planet wide. We know it has been used, practiced, and exercised...with out any seeming protest demonstration by ET's.
Any war in Asia...MUST be quick/decisive/& NOT a Land War...as General Douglas McArthur so intelligently stated/'S'

-Jumping in here on this guys_
-The US Navy is now going to join the South Korean Navy on its' exercises, and provide 'cover' and support for their ships at sea. Interesting huh? Guess we'll see if North Korean will challenge this combination of Navies. The US Navy will be using its' whole array of war ships, including submarines and NUKE guided Missle ships and aircraft carriers. Hmmm. Some fun over there watching what will happen. Well we all know that the North has been playing the 'BULLY' too long, and the only thing a Bully is frightened of is someone who 'takes him on'-Captain

[skylark]

captain, on May 24 2010, 10:45 PM, said:

-Jumping in here on this guys_
-The US Navy is now going to join the South Korean Navy on its' exercises, and provide 'cover' and support for their ships at sea. Interesting huh? Guess we'll see if North Korean will challenge this combination of Navies. The US Navy will be using its' whole array of war ships, including submarines and NUKE guided Missle ships and aircraft carriers. Hmmm. Some fun over there watching what will happen. Well we all know that the North has been playing the 'BULLY' too long, and the only thing a Bully is frightened of is someone who 'takes him on'-Captain

*RIGHT 'cAP',
...Heard that. The latest is that N. Korea has severed ALL relations with the South/Seoul, and has closed off factories in the North where Both Countries nationals have been working together for years. Still looking for any more reports of 'them' being involved in the torpedoing of the Oil Rig. Is the US Covering all this up?/'S'

[Yaeger]

skylark, on May 25 2010, 09:49 PM, said:

*RIGHT 'cAP',
...Heard that. The latest is that N. Korea has severed ALL relations with the South/Seoul, and has closed off factories in the North where Both Countries nationals have been working together for years. Still looking for any more reports of 'them' being involved in the torpedoing of the Oil Rig. Is the US Covering all this up?/'S'

Still not sure what to make of all this.. Reminds me of those "weapons of mass destruction" Iraq was supposed to have. That story was put out as an excuse to attack Iraq. This war gave Bush a second term in the White House. Currently Obama's approval rates are way down the toilet, but a successful military campaign could improve things for the Democrats in the upcoming mid-term elections and give Obama the much needed booster for 2012/Yaeger

[simple simon]

Yaeger, on May 27 2010, 07:59 PM, said:

Still not sure what to make of all this.. Reminds me of those "weapons of mass destruction" Iraq was supposed to have. That story was put out as an excuse to attack Iraq. This war gave Bush a second term in the White House. Currently Obama's approval rates are way down the toilet, but a successful military campaign could improve things for the Democrats in the upcoming mid-term elections and give Obama the much needed booster for 2012.

hmm, re: the N Koreans, this is what a friend said to me by email...

"according to my dad who works in the industry-it was malpractice but not of BP as the other party who were
responsible for the equipment and must have known they were using a faulty pressure valve that basically did not close and caused the spill.
My Dad knows how the equipment works and explained to me exactly what happened.
I do not buy into a torpedo-sorry-thinks its a spoof."


So, maybe the stories about a company such as Haliburton are true?

Simon

Edited by simple simon, 27 May 2010 - 09:08 PM.

[skylark]

simple simon, on May 27 2010, 10:07 PM, said:

hmm, re: the N Koreans, this is what a friend said to me by email...

"according to my dad who works in the industry-it was malpractice but not of BP as the other party who were
responsible for the equipment and must have known they were using a faulty pressure valve that basically did not close and caused the spill.
My Dad knows how the equipment works and explained to me exactly what happened.
I do not buy into a torpedo-sorry-thinks its a spoof."


So, maybe the stories about a company such as Haliburton are true?

Simon

*Maybe, maybe not Simon,
...One thing seems to be sure though, Neither BP nor the US Government is being transparent on ANY of the issues especially the 'CLEAN UP'.
If 'they' were in earnest about cleaning up the mess/oil spill, there are existing technologies available RIGHT NOW. Well, check out the 'My Website' Video Link below...and see one such treatment program that has already been tested and used. There are MICROBES...which even exist in Nature...which actually EAT OIl...and leave no TOXIC RESIDUE. And it's fast...perhaps within 6 weeks, a TOTAL clean up could be achieved. It's almost like...'They' don't want to use this technology...and clean up the environmental mess. Thanks/'S'

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[simple simon]

skylark, on May 31 2010, 10:22 AM, said:

*Maybe, maybe not Simon,
...One thing seems to be sure though, Neither BP nor the US Government is being transparent on ANY of the issues especially the 'CLEAN UP'.
If 'they' were in earnest about cleaning up the mess/oil spill, there are existing technologies available RIGHT NOW. Well, check out the 'My Website' Video Link below...and see one such treatment program that has already been tested and used. There are MICROBES...which even exist in Nature...which actually EAT OIl...and leave no TOXIC RESIDUE. And it's fast...perhaps within 6 weeks, a TOTAL clean up could be achieved. It's almost like...'They' don't want to use this technology...and clean up the environmental mess. Thanks/'S'

Visit My Website

But Sweeps, the idea is to cull the herd of the useless eaters, and those who know too much...

So such clever ideas are not what TPTB want right now. Once the population has fallen below 1 billion then thats when they start cleaning up in earnest.

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Of course this video promotes an excellent solution which is what should be being done, alongside stopping the leak.

Simon

Edited by simple simon, 31 May 2010 - 12:22 PM.