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[simple simon]

hmm, a couple of hours after polling ended, a big scandal is brewing.

In many areas (exactly how many remains to be seen, as the information is still coming in) reports are claiming that people were unable to vote.

For some people its because the polling stations ran out of ballot papers.

However, for many more the issue is that too many people left it too late in the evening, and with a surge in the turnout people in some areas saw very long queues to reach the polling booths and at closing time (10pm) those who had not voted were told "sorry, too late".

In at least one area those who were waiting were allowed in to the room and the door was locked to stop anyone else entering.

We might see a legal challenge; a lot depends on the results in the individual constituencies and (I suppose) whether the people who were unable to votes (possibly few hundred in some areas) could possibly have made a difference. Certainly where candidates win on very low margins it could be that those who did not get to vote will suggest that had they been able to vote the result might have been different.

btw, re: the candidates, its a choice between a devil, the deep blue sea, or someone who wants to share a bed with either of the others. The devil is known, and hopefully will be retired 'very soon'. I dont wish anyhone ill, but 'politically brown bread' sounds excellent to me! Just remember the gold sold at a knock-down rate and the raid on pension funds back in 1997. As for the rest of the candidates, well Cameron needs to embrace Exopolitics, and have you seen about Cleggs backers?

All I can say is that for those who want to vote 'no confidence' the other smaller candidates create possibilities. We had 3 choices here, UKIP, Green and someone standing on a local issue - prevent hospital closure.

Simon

Edited by captain, 14 May 2010 - 11:54 AM.

[skylark]

simple simon, on May 7 2010, 01:01 AM, said:

hmm, a couple of hours after polling ended, a big scandal is brewing.

In many areas (exactly how many remains to be seen, as the information is still coming in) reports are claiming that people were unable to vote.

For some people its because the polling stations ran out of ballot papers.

However, for many more the issue is that too many people left it too late in the evening, and with a surge in the turnout people in some areas saw very long queues to reach the polling booths and at closing time (10pm) those who had not voted were told "sorry, too late".

In at least one area those who were waiting were allowed in to the room and the door was locked to stop anyone else entering.

We might see a legal challenge; a lot depends on the results in the individual constituencies and (I suppose) whether the people who were unable to votes (possibly few hundred in some areas) could possibly have made a difference. Certainly where candidates win on very low margins it could be that those who did not get to vote will suggest that had they been able to vote the result might have been different.

btw, re: the candidates, its a choice between a devil, the deep blue sea, or someone who wants to share a bed with either of the others. The devil is known, and hopefully will be retired 'very soon'. I dont wish anyhone ill, but 'politically brown bread' sounds excellent to me! Just remember the gold sold at a knock-down rate and the raid on pension funds back in 1997. As for the rest of the candidates, well Cameron needs to embrace Exopolitics, and have you seen about Cleggs backers?

All I can say is that for those who want to vote 'no confidence' the other smaller candidates create possibilities. We had 3 choices here, UKIP, Green and someone standing on a local issue - prevent hospital closure.

Simon

*Hi Simon and All,
...NAH, when the voiting is over it's OVER. People got to the polling houses AFTER the voting hours...whose to blame? They are. What if they showed up at 3:30 in the morning. 'Sour Grapes' comes to mind. Anyway the 'Lib Dems' pettered out...despite all the Media Hype. But, by the Constitution, Gordon Brown as sitting PM must be permitted to form a coallition Government if able to. That's the law, and the Brits could be 'Stuck' with him. Still think their should be a box at the bottom of each ballot, saying 'None Of The Above'.
*I see Peter Robinson LOST HIS JOB. Expect a few more Quirks will come out of this election day too. Best/'S'

[simple simon]

Yes well Robinson was a local issue probably related to family matters.

The Daily Telegraph described the situation whereby people were unable to vote as being 'third world'; I wonder whether Mugabe of Zimbabwe will soon be gloating?

The Lib Dems' share of the vote went up 4%, but they still lost a few seats. They are now said to be talking to the Tories. Proportional representation might be a sticking point which prevents a deal. Conservatives dont want it; Liberal Democrats see it as a non-negotiable requirement. Hmm, takes me back to my teenage years during the miners strike and 3 day week when in Feb 1974 Heath won an election on votes but not on seats, and refused to agree to PR with Thorpe, the then Liberal leader. Eventually he left office and Wilson formed a minority Labour govt, and a few years later we had the LibLab pact.

By refusing to leave Downing Street immediately and trying to form a coalition Heath almost caused a severe constitutional crisis.

There were two elections in 1974; the other one was in October, and I think that Labour scraped a wafer-thin majority, although a few years later this had been lost - hence the LibLab pact. Oh and PM Jim Callaghan had this derisory 'price check' scheme whereby to help curb inflation shops agreed to not increase prices by more than 1/- (5 pence, as it was by then - even today one shilling / 12 old [real] pence sounds like a LOT of money, whilst 5p is 'loose change'... no wonder we had inflation!). Price Check, with the stickers on shop windows and doors looked good as a PR stunt, but was a total farce of the kind which makes me think of TV series "Yes Minister".

returning to the present, although many are concerned that the Tories are mostly inexperienced in government, they are getting much assistance from former politicians, especially Ken Clarke (former Chancellor) and John Major - who was both Chancellor and PM. But from what I've heard Maggie Thatcher is not being consulted - she is 84 and its said that her health and her mind are not as robust as they used to be.

Simon.


ps, I was 14 in 1974, at school 'British Constitution' was one of the subjects which I studied and achieved a grade B O Level.

Edited by simple simon, 07 May 2010 - 04:50 PM.

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simple simon, on May 7 2010, 05:42 PM, said:

Yes well Robinson was a local issue probably related to family matters.

The Daily Telegraph described the situation whereby people were unable to vote as being 'third world'; I wonder whether Mugabe of Zimbabwe will soon be gloating?

The Lib Dems' share of the vote went up 4%, but they still lost a few seats. They are now said to be talking to the Tories. Proportional representation might be a sticking point which prevents a deal. Conservatives dont want it; Liberal Democrats see it as a non-negotiable requirement. Hmm, takes me back to my teenage years during the miners strike and 3 day week when in Feb 1974 Heath won an election on votes but not on seats, and refused to agree to PR with Thorpe, the then Liberal leader. Eventually he left office and Wilson formed a minority Labour govt, and a few years later we had the LibLab pact.

By refusing to leave Downing Street immediately and trying to form a coalition Heath almost caused a severe constitutional crisis.

There were two elections in 1974; the other one was in October, and I think that Labour scraped a wafer-thin majority, although a few years later this had been lost - hence the LibLab pact. Oh and PM Jim Callaghan had this derisory 'price check' scheme whereby to help curb inflation shops agreed to not increase prices by more than 1/- (5 pence, as it was by then - even today one shilling / 12 old [real] pence sounds like a LOT of money, whilst 5p is 'loose change'... no wonder we had inflation!). Price Check, with the stickers on shop windows and doors looked good as a PR stunt, but was a total farce of the kind which makes me think of TV series "Yes Minister".

returning to the present, although many are concerned that the Tories are mostly inexperienced in government, they are getting much assistance from former politicians, especially Ken Clarke (former Chancellor) and John Major - who was both Chancellor and PM. But from what I've heard Maggie Thatcher is not being consulted - she is 84 and its said that her health and her mind are not as robust as they used to be.

Simon.


ps, I was 14 in 1974, at school 'British Constitution' was one of the subjects which I studied and achieved a grade B O Level.

*Yep Simon,
...'Catch Your Drift'. Familiar with ALL that History, but the folks SHOULD appreciate you 'drawing it out' for them in STYLE. Thanks for that.
Of course 'The Magna Carta'...it's principles don't even apply today, and the British DON'T really have a 'CONSTITUTION' per say. They have 'Traditions', precidents, and 'Past' performance instead. There is NO document called their 'Constitution. Carry on Screaming/'S'

[Yaeger]

It's now a matter for the whore ( = Liberal Democrats) to go to bed with the highest bidder ( = either Tories or Labour).. Otherwise it will be business as usual in 10 Downing Street, meaning that Britain will stay under EU control, illegal immigrants will keep flooding into the country, more British soldiers will come back from Iraq and Afghanistan in body bags and the civil rights of the people of Britain will be eroded further and further......

[Seth Haniel]

Todays papers are saying that those who were denied the vote could claim £750 compensation

[skylark]

Yaeger, on May 8 2010, 10:40 AM, said:

It's now a matter for the whore ( = Liberal Democrats) to go to bed with the highest bidder ( = either Tories or Labour).. Otherwise it will be business as usual in 10 Downing Street, meaning that Britain will stay under EU control, illegal immigrants will keep flooding into the country, more British soldiers will come back from Iraq and Afghanistan in body bags and the civil rights of the people of Britain will be eroded further and further......

*Truly VENOMOUS today huh Yaeger?
...AND 'RIGHT ON' too. Tell it like it is. Thanks/'S'

[skylark]

Seth Haniel, on May 8 2010, 11:53 AM, said:

Todays papers are saying that those who were denied the vote could claim £750 compensation

*So, that's the Compensation Value for being denied one's Voting Rights? Well at least now we know the Value. Wonder what that says?/'S'

[simple simon]

skylark, on May 8 2010, 03:31 PM, said:

*So, that's the Compensation Value for being denied one's Voting Rights? Well at least now we know the Value. Wonder what that says?/'S'

er um, OK lets be candid here, £750 is always 'nice' to receive, especially if tax free; but for TPTB to suggest that money is a compensation for democratic rights is a the start of a slippery slope.

I think that this time, as its the first time such has happened, most people will say 'very bad - but it must not happen again'.

But, if this does happen again, then it will not be acceptable and at a minimum a fresh poll required.

However, hopefully a plan will be in in-place to make sure that this does not happen again.

I am in favour of what happened at at least one polling station, this being everyone still waiting to vote being taken into the room and the doors closed, as this would deem those who arrived in time as being eligible but still stop latecomers, as that latter status is different.

Simon

[skylark]

simple simon, on May 8 2010, 10:46 PM, said:

er um, OK lets be candid here, £750 is always 'nice' to receive, especially if tax free; but for TPTB to suggest that money is a compensation for democratic rights is a the start of a slippery slope.

I think that this time, as its the first time such has happened, most people will say 'very bad - but it must not happen again'.

But, if this does happen again, then it will not be acceptable and at a minimum a fresh poll required.

However, hopefully a plan will be in in-place to make sure that this does not happen again.

I am in favour of what happened at at least one polling station, this being everyone still waiting to vote being taken into the room and the doors closed, as this would deem those who arrived in time as being eligible but still stop latecomers, as that latter status is different.

Simon

*Agree Simon,
...But THAT WAS my whole point. How it happened in the 1st place is the BIG Question I put to TPTB/'S'

[captain]

skylark, on May 8 2010, 11:12 PM, said:

*Agree Simon,
...But THAT WAS my whole point. How it happened in the 1st place is the BIG Question I put to TPTB/'S'

-I AGREE-think David Icke had a better idea. Below is his latest Sunday 'Newsletter' Blog statement. Also agree with 'Sweeps'-that the voting ballots should contain a place to check which indicates 'NONE OF THE ABOVE'-That would be great-thanks-Captain

The David Icke Newsletter

I watched Labour Party supporters cheering wildly whenever their candidates were announced to have won their seats when that party in government has been responsible for killing and maiming millions in wars justified by lies; has ceaselessly and viciously imposed an Orwellian police state; and has removed regulation from the banking system and then thrust upon the country astonishing levels of debt to bail out the banks amid their unregulated mayhem.

And here were these programmed people - computer terminals - cheering when another of this shower was elected back to parliament. But they wouldn't compute the sheer lack of logic in their slapping palms because it is not about what is right or just - it is only about winning.

I saw Caroline Lucas, the first Green Party candidate to win a Westminster seat, being cheered and feted by her supporters when all she will do is be a focus in parliament to press for action on the totally-discredited lies about human-caused global warming.

She said after her 'victory' that people had voted for the 'politics of hope above the politics of fear' when she is going to Westminster to say from day one that if we don't destroy the world economy, tax people till the pips squeak, impose Orwellian climate laws and make fortunes for the mega rich through cap and trade we are all going to die.

What an irrelevance it all is to what is really happening in the world as the global population is systematically raped by the banks and the Orwellian agenda, and vampired of its wealth, health, energy and freedom.

[simple simon]

A psychic is predicting political riots within 3 weeks.

http://blairrobertson.com/blog/

I hope not - but at the present time (Monday 10th May, very late at night) the politicians are deeply embroiled in horse-trading and machinations of the highest order, and that includes the Liberal Democrats speaking to both of the other major political parties (even playing one against the other!) so that it is not impossible that a deal will be struck which causes much upset.

To say that we are experiencing a revolution in British politics would not be an understatement. Blair's previous prediction of Cameron winning the election was right, but he did not give a timescale - and its not at all impossible that his political party will be usurped by a coalition of those who lost the election.

Simon

[simple simon]

I've spent the past few hours glued to the box watching the old Prime Minister leave and the new one arrives.

At times I feel sure that I could hear cries of 'Tories out' from some of the assembled throngs. If this was happening than I can understand how such riots might hppen.

In short, there will be an element of society who are fundamentally opposed to the Conservatives being in power taking to the streets.

In the meantime, today's news about civil unrest in Dublin because of matters financial does not bode well.

Simon

[skylark]

simple simon, on May 11 2010, 09:09 PM, said:

I've spent the past few hours glued to the box watching the old Prime Minister leave and the new one arrives.

At times I feel sure that I could hear cries of 'Tories out' from some of the assembled throngs. If this was happening than I can understand how such riots might hppen.

In short, there will be an element of society who are fundamentally opposed to the Conservatives being in power taking to the streets.

In the meantime, today's news about civil unrest in Dublin because of matters financial does not bode well.

Simon

*Howdy Simon and All...well it's STARTING,
...People 'on the ground/common guys/gals', now getting the same message and want better answers/responses from their governments. The latest 'BAILOUT' in the Eu, will definitely mean more Control from Bussels over individual 'States' budgets, employment situations, what can and can not be done...without TPTB's approval. Greek citizens 'Hit the Streets' in protest, Irish people gathered...demanded entrance to the 'Dail'/Parliament here in Dublin...and beaten back with baton charges by the Gardi.
It all comes down on/to family, their jobs, and a frustration with policies they had nothing to do with...which will 'INFECT' generations to come. So, yes...'The BRUSHFIRE Wars' of which I prophesized after the 'Lisbon Treaty' YES Vote, are starting to happen. AND, at the Polls things are happening....The Germans VOTING out Merkel in her Home district, the largest County in Germany. People want their countries back, their own institutions, and their own communities. It will take a while to ferment and foment...but 'It's Coming'.
The WAR with our 'Over Lords' and their MACHINES is fast Looming though in people's minds. Get ready, and join, help prepare the 'Resistance'. Thanks/'S'

[skylark]

skylark, on May 12 2010, 12:01 AM, said:

*Howdy Simon and All...well it's STARTING,
...People 'on the ground/common guys/gals', now getting the same message and want better answers/responses from their governments. The latest 'BAILOUT' in the Eu, will definitely mean more Control from Bussels over individual 'States' budgets, employment situations, what can and can not be done...without TPTB's approval. Greek citizens 'Hit the Streets' in protest, Irish people gathered...demanded entrance to the 'Dail'/Parliament here in Dublin...and beaten back with baton charges by the Gardi.
It all comes down on/to family, their jobs, and a frustration with policies they had nothing to do with...which will 'INFECT' generations to come. So, yes...'The BRUSHFIRE Wars' of which I prophesized after the 'Lisbon Treaty' YES Vote, are starting to happen. AND, at the Polls things are happening....The Germans VOTING out Merkel in her Home district, the largest County in Germany. People want their countries back, their own institutions, and their own communities. It will take a while to ferment and foment...but 'It's Coming'.
The WAR with our 'Over Lords' and their MACHINES is fast Looming though in people's minds. Get ready, and join, help prepare the 'Resistance'. Thanks/'S'

*Right All you guys and gals,
...As Reference my last Reply...
NOW the EU COMMISSION Today...has 'REQUESTED' (I like that) that ALL Eurozone Countries SUBMIT their National (whatever that means now) Budgets to the EU...BEFORE sending them to their own National Parliaments for consideration. The EU COMMISSIONER want to look them over first. Let's see how many of the EU States comply & think that is 'just fine with them'. Also today, the Spanish Government has announced that Public Sector/Civil Servant workers will have 5% of their Salaries CUT...in order to 'Please the EU Commissioner'. Let's see how the Spanish workers respond.

Now here we go folks. Don't say we haven't been warning you of 'Big Brother'/NWO/from Brussels/'s'

[simple simon]

skylark, on May 12 2010, 04:38 PM, said:

*Right All you guys and gals,
...As Reference my last Reply...
NOW the EU COMMISSION Today...has 'REQUESTED' (I like that) that ALL Eurozone Countries SUBMIT their National (whatever that means now) Budgets to the EU...BEFORE sending them to their own National Parliaments for consideration. The EU COMMISSIONER want to look them over first. Let's see how many of the EU States comply & think that is 'just fine with them'. Also today, the Spanish Government has announced that Public Sector/Civil Servant workers will have 5% of their Salaries CUT...in order to 'Please the EU Commissioner'. Let's see how the Spanish workers respond.

Now here we go folks. Don't say we haven't been warning you of 'Big Brother'/NWO/from Brussels/'s'

erm, will Spanish MP's, government ministers, (etc) be having their pay cut too?

If not, why not? Is Spain now a 'two nation' state (fat cat leaders and the rest)?

Simon

Edited by simple simon, 12 May 2010 - 04:47 PM.

[skylark]

simple simon, on May 12 2010, 05:47 PM, said:

erm, will Spanish MP's, government ministers, (etc) be having their pay cut too?

If not, why not? Is Spain now a 'two nation' state (fat cat leaders and the rest)?

Simon

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…This should be interesting folks/NOT. Don't expect much or anything from this…BUT, David Cameron Promised UFO Full Disclosure If Elected British Prime Minister/'S'

The following BBC report is from February 2009. New British Prime Minister David Cameron, at that time, promised UFO fill disclosure:

BBC- David Cameron has vowed to publish any secret files that may exist on UFOs if he becomes prime minister.

Speaking at one of his regular Cameron Direct public meetings, he pledged to be "open and frank" with any government knowledge about close encounters.

The Conservative leader was responding to a question about apparent government cover-ups of UFO activity.

Mr Cameron joked: "I'm convinced we've been visited by aliens - one of them is trade secretary Peter Mandelson."

Intelligent life

At the meeting in Tynemouth, North Tyneside, he was questioned about a spate of mysterious incidents.

A member of the audience asked: "In July last year the respected scientist and astronaut Dr Edgar Mitchell, who was the sixth man to walk on the moon, spoke on a British radio station.

"He said the American government had had contact with extra terrestrials on multiple occasions and that these were ongoing.

"He spoke about the Roswell event in 1947 where wreckage of a downed UFO was recovered and found to contain alien bodies.

"He said this event was real but was covered up by the government for many years.

"Do you agree with me that the British people have a right to know if we have been visited, and if so, when you become prime minister will you seek to lift the veil of secrecy and give the public the truth that they deserve?

UFO guarantee

Mr Cameron replied: "I have no idea there is intelligent life out there and no idea whether any of the sightings which have taken place or whether any incidents which have taken place have any basis in truth.

"When people have looked at the Roswell incident, or when people have looked at pictures... a rational explanation tends to be produced to try and show what has happened is not what those who believe in UFOs suggest.

"But I think we should be a open as possible, so I would be quite happy to give you a guarantee that if I became prime minister I would always be entirely open and frank about these things.

'I don't think any of us have any clue whether there's intelligent life out there and it is certainly not something that any government should seek to hide from anyone'.

[simple simon]

skylark, on May 13 2010, 12:46 PM, said:

*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…This should be interesting folks/NOT. Don't expect much or anything from this…BUT, David Cameron Promised UFO Full Disclosure If Elected British Prime Minister/'S'

The following BBC report is from February 2009. New British Prime Minister David Cameron, at that time, promised UFO fill disclosure:

BBC- David Cameron has vowed to publish any secret files that may exist on UFOs if he becomes prime minister.

Speaking at one of his regular Cameron Direct public meetings, he pledged to be "open and frank" with any government knowledge about close encounters.

The Conservative leader was responding to a question about apparent government cover-ups of UFO activity.

Mr Cameron joked: "I'm convinced we've been visited by aliens - one of them is trade secretary Peter Mandelson."

Intelligent life

At the meeting in Tynemouth, North Tyneside, he was questioned about a spate of mysterious incidents.

A member of the audience asked: "In July last year the respected scientist and astronaut Dr Edgar Mitchell, who was the sixth man to walk on the moon, spoke on a British radio station.

"He said the American government had had contact with extra terrestrials on multiple occasions and that these were ongoing.

"He spoke about the Roswell event in 1947 where wreckage of a downed UFO was recovered and found to contain alien bodies.

"He said this event was real but was covered up by the government for many years.

"Do you agree with me that the British people have a right to know if we have been visited, and if so, when you become prime minister will you seek to lift the veil of secrecy and give the public the truth that they deserve?

UFO guarantee

Mr Cameron replied: "I have no idea there is intelligent life out there and no idea whether any of the sightings which have taken place or whether any incidents which have taken place have any basis in truth.

"When people have looked at the Roswell incident, or when people have looked at pictures... a rational explanation tends to be produced to try and show what has happened is not what those who believe in UFOs suggest.

"But I think we should be a open as possible, so I would be quite happy to give you a guarantee that if I became prime minister I would always be entirely open and frank about these things.

'I don't think any of us have any clue whether there's intelligent life out there and it is certainly not something that any government should seek to hide from anyone'.

oo er!

this could be VERY significant.

But, even more pressing (as if such was possible) is Gary McKinnon's case and looming extradition. this needs cancelling, with Gary being given 'special advisor' status and asked to repeat to the media what he found.

Simon

ps, erm, Mandy ("the prince of darkness") might represent 'intelligent' life? but from which planet? Perhaps one where there is a lot of algae, as such can be somewhat slippery and slimy!!

[skylark]

simple simon, on May 13 2010, 01:04 PM, said:

oo er!

this could be VERY significant.

But, even more pressing (as if such was possible) is Gary McKinnon's case and looming extradition. this needs cancelling, with Gary being given 'special advisor' status and asked to repeat to the media what he found.

Simon

ps, erm, Mandy ("the prince of darkness") might represent 'intelligent' life? but from which planet? Perhaps one where there is a lot of algae, as such can be somewhat slippery and slimy!!

*Simon,
...I'll give you the 'O' ER on 'McKinnon, but only because 'I HOPE SO'. As far as Cameron releasing ANY info on UFO's/ET's...forget it. He'll be briefed and TOLD to 'Tone it down'. He's not in the loop anyway.
Let's not forget...the new PM is going to have his hands full...trying to 'make believe' that his party and his arch rivals in philosophy (diametreically oppossed) can do a government. No way Jose/'S'

[simple simon]

skylark, on May 14 2010, 12:02 AM, said:

*Simon,
...I'll give you the 'O' ER on 'McKinnon, but only because 'I HOPE SO'. As far as Cameron releasing ANY info on UFO's/ET's...forget it. He'll be briefed and TOLD to 'Tone it down'. He's not in the loop anyway.
Let's not forget...the new PM is going to have his hands full...trying to 'make believe' that his party and his arch rivals in philosophy (diametreically oppossed) can do a government. No way Jose/'S'

Sweeps, re: Cameron not being in the loop, well you are in a position to know... I was surprised when you posted the message about him being asked, especially as I heard a while ago that he is considered a lightweight.

FWIW I feel sure that Dr Boylan said that he is of 'star seed' energy.

Anyway, we humans must remember that it takes more than one species for there to be any sort of contact event, and that as much as we may not like it, we do not call the shots. It could come to pass that others will decide that he should be contacted. No, I'm not saying that this will happen, as I do not know. Its just that I dont rule such out as being impossible - even if it is unlikely.

Simon