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BP OIL SPILL- VIDEO GULF OF MEXICO- WHAT REALLY HAPPENED
-COULD N. KOREA HAVE TORPEDOED THIS OIL RIG?-

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EU Times: 'U.S. Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig'

*'Sweeps' NOTE 3 UPDATE-WARNING:
...BP HAS NOW BOUGHT 'GOOGLE WORD SEARCH ENGINE'. See note in the Replies section and the Link to the 'Examiner' Article/'S'

*'Sweeps' NOTE 2 UPDATE:

…If this 'be true', the sorry events with North Korea have hit a whole new 'Scale'. Are 'NUKES' BEING READIED? After 'their' torpedoing of a South Korean war ship was confirmed, does this…if it is…new escalation mean a NEW WAR in the Pacific. They DO seem to like submarines folks. Well, take in this report…and see what comes of it. Watch the world News for OTHER related events/issues now taking place. South Korea and the US have both threatened retaliation over the torpedoing of the S. Korean Ship, and N. Korea says it will mean 'All Out War'. Hmmm. Look what we've go forward to look for/'S'

THE STORY:

A grim report circulating in the Kremlin today written by Russia's Northern Fleet is reporting that the United States has ordered a complete media blackout over North Korea's torpedoing of the giant Deepwater Horizon oil platform owned by the World's largest offshore drilling contractor Transocean that was built and financed by South Korea's Hyundai Heavy Industries Co. Ltd., that has caused great loss of life, untold billions in economic damage to the South Korean economy, and an environmental catastrophe to the United States.

Most important to understand about this latest attack by North Korea against its South Korean enemy is that under the existing "laws of war" it was a permissible action as they remain in a state of war against each other due to South Korea's refusal to sign the 1953 Armistice ending the Korean War.

To the attack itself, these reports continue, the North Korean "cargo vessel" Dai Hong Dan believed to be staffed by 17th Sniper Corps "suicide" troops left Cuba's Empresa Terminales Mambisas de La Habana (Port of Havana) on April 18th whereupon it "severely deviated" from its intended course for Venezuela's Puerto Cabello bringing it to within 209 kilometers (130 miles) of the Deepwater Horizon oil platform which was located 80 kilometers (50 miles) off the coast of the US State of Louisiana where it launched an SSC Sang-o Class Mini Submarine (Yugo class) estimated to have an operational range of 321 kilometers (200 miles).

On the night of April 20th the North Korean Mini Submarine manned by these "suicidal" 17th Sniper Corps soldiers attacked the Deepwater Horizon with what are believed to be 2 incendiary torpedoes causing a massive explosion and resulting in 11 workers on this giant oil rig being killed outright. Barely 48 hours later, on April 22nd , this North Korean Mini Submarine committed its final atrocity by exploding itself directly beneath the Deepwater Horizon causing this $1 Billion oil rig to sink beneath the seas and marking 2010's celebration of Earth Day with one of the largest environmental catastrophes our World has ever seen.

To the reason for North Korea attacking the Deepwater Horizon, these reports say, was to present US President Obama with an "impossible dilemma" prior to the opening of the United Nations Review Conference of the Parties to the Treat on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) set to begin May 3rd in New York.

This "impossible dilemma" facing Obama is indeed real as the decision he is faced with is either to allow the continuation of this massive oil leak catastrophe to continue for months, or immediately stop it by the only known and proven means possible, the detonation of a thermonuclear device.

Russian Navy atomic experts in these reports state that should Obama choose the "nuclear option" the most viable weapon at his disposal is the United States B83 (Mk-83) strategic thermonuclear bomb having a variable yield (Low Kiloton Range to 1,200 Kilotons) which with its 12 foot length and 18 inch diameter, and weighing just over 2,400 pounds, is readily able to be deployed and detonated by a remote controlled mini-sub.

Should Obama choose the "nuclear option" it appears that he would be supported by the International Court of Justice who on July 8, 1996 issued an advisory opinion on the use of nuclear weapons stating that they could not conclude definitively on these weapons use in "extreme circumstances" or "self defense".

On the other hand, if Obama chooses the "nuclear option" it would leave the UN's nuclear conference in shambles with every Nation in the World having oil rigs off their coasts demanding an equal right to atomic weapons to protect their environment from catastrophes too, including Iran.

To whatever decision Obama makes it remains a fact that with each passing hour this environmental catastrophe grows worse. And even though Obama has ordered military SWAT teams to protect other oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico from any further attack, and further ordered that all drilling in the Gulf of Mexico be immediately stopped, this massive oil spill has already reached the shores of America and with high waves and more bad weather forecast the likelihood of it being stopped from destroying thousands of miles of US coastland and wildlife appears unstoppable.

And not just to the environmental catastrophe that is unfolding the only devastation to be wrecked upon the United States and South Korea by this North Korean attack as the economic liabilities associated with this disaster are estimated by these Russian reports to be between $500 Billion to $1.5 Trillion, and which only a declaration of this disaster being an "act of war" would free some the World's largest corporations from bankruptcy.

Important to note too in all of these events was that this was the second attack by North Korea on its South Korean enemy, and US ally, in a month as we had reported on in our March 28th report titled "Obama Orders 'Immediate Stand-down' After Deadly North Korean Attack" and which to date neither the Americans or South Korea have retaliated for and giving one senior North Korean party leader the courage to openly state that the North Korean military took "gratifying revenge" on South Korea.

And for those believing that things couldn't get worse, they couldn't be more mistaken as new reports coming from Japanese military sources are stating that North Korea is preparing for new launches of its 1,300 kilometer (807 miles) intermediate range ballistic "Rodong" missile which Russian Space Forces experts state is able to "deploy and detonate" an atomic electromagnetic pulse (EMP) device, and which if detonated high in the atmosphere could effectively destroy the American economy for years, if not decades, to come.




*'Sweeps' NOTE 1;
…Want some FACTS on the background of the OIL Spill/environmental Disaster? The New York Times recently characterized the oil spill as a 'natural disaster'. They've not only got it ALL WRONG, but it shows how the Big Media 'covers up' the real investigative facts. Here, below in the VIDEO is what we are going to show/tell you about:

1. It didn't need to happen in the first place…IF BP had taken the steps they NEVER take
2. The damage could have been fully contained on the first day…IF BP 'cared'
3. Government/Political…and media….corruption made the whole economic and ecological catastrophe possible/'S'

*CLICK below for this 'revealing' Video. Take in the 1st sixty seconds of scandal too:

Yaeger
Another case of globalist corporate interest groups and the liberal media working hand in hand.
skylark
QUOTE (Yaeger @ May 8 2010, 10:30 AM) *
Another case of globalist corporate interest groups and the liberal media working hand in hand.


*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…Well Yaeger and ALL. Now we KNOW, the federal agency that regulates offshore rigs changed its rules "two years ago" to exempt certain projects in the central Gulf region.

Read below and Weap. This would be the same thing as if…the Pharmaceutical companies being exempt from any harm caused by their shots. Somebody has a plan and purpose./'S'

Petrochemical giant BP didn't file a plan to specifically handle a major oil spill from an uncontrolled blowout at its Deepwater Horizon project because the federal agency that regulates offshore rigs changed its rules two years ago to exempt certain projects in the central Gulf region, according to an Associated Press review of official records.

The Minerals Management Service, an arm of the Interior Department known for its cozy relationship with major oil companies, says it issued the rule relief because some of the industry wide mandates weren't practical for all of the exploratory and production projects operating in the Gulf region.

The blowout rule, the fact that it was lifted in April 2008 for rigs that didn't fit at least one of five conditions, and confusion about whether the BP Deepwater Horizon project was covered by the regulation, caught the attention of Interior Secretary Ken Salazar.

Following a tour of a boom operation in Gulf Shores, Ala., Salazar said Wednesday that he understood BP was required to file plans for coping with a blowout at the well that failed.
'My understanding is that everything was in its proper place', said Salazar.

But an AP review of government and BP documents found that the company had not filed a specific comprehensive blowout plan for the rig that exploded April 20, leaving 11 workers dead and spewing an estimated 210,000 gallons of oil a day.

Instead, a site-specific exploration plan filed by BP in February 2009 stated that it was "not required" to file "a scenario for a potential blowout" of the Deepwater well.
When questioned about the exemption claim, BP spokesman William Salvin said provisions for handling a blowout incident were actually included in the firm's 582-page region oil spill plan, though he had difficulty pointing to specific passages.

He later maintained that the Deepwater location was not subject to the blowout scenario requirements because it triggered none of the conditions cited in the MMS's April 2008 notice to operators about a loosening of the rules.

The lack of a specific plan for the Deepwater project raises questions about whether BP could have been better prepared to deal with the ongoing disaster and whether MMS is fulfilling its regulatory oversight.

Robert Wiygul, an Ocean Springs, Miss., environmental lawyer, said the lack of a blowout scenario "is kind of an outrageous omission, because you're drilling in extremely deep waters, where by definition you're looking for very large reservoirs to justify the cost."

"If the MMS was allowing companies to drill in this ultra-deep situation without a blowout scenario, then it seems clear they weren't doing the job they were tasked with," he said. "The MMS can't change the law just by telling people that they don't have to comply with it. I think it really indicates that somebody at MMS was asleep at the switch on this."

In its 2009 exploration plan for the Deepwater Horizon site, BP strongly discounted the possibility of a catastrophic accident. Similarly, Shell's environmental impact analysis for its Beaufort Sea drilling plan asserts that the possibility of a "large liquid hydrocarbon spill ... is regarded as too remote and speculative to be considered a reasonably foreseeable impacting event."

The Deepwater Horizon disaster is not the first time MMS has been criticized as being too close to the oil industry.

In 2008, the Interior Department took disciplinary action against eight MMS employees who accepted lavish gifts, partied and - in some cases - had sex with employees from the energy companies they regulated. An investigation cited a "culture of substance abuse and promiscuity" involving employees in the agency's Denver office.

MMS workers were given upgraded ethics training.
Associated Press Writer Richard T. Pienciak reported from Atlanta; AP Writer Jay Reeves reported from Gulf Shores, Alaska.
skylark
QUOTE (skylark @ May 8 2010, 11:27 PM) *
*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…Well Yaeger and ALL. Now we KNOW, the federal agency that regulates offshore rigs changed its rules "two years ago" to exempt certain projects in the central Gulf region.

Read below and Weap. This would be the same thing as if…the Pharmaceutical companies being exempt from any harm caused by their shots. Somebody has a plan and purpose./'S'

Petrochemical giant BP didn't file a plan to specifically handle a major oil spill from an uncontrolled blowout at its Deepwater Horizon project because the federal agency that regulates offshore rigs changed its rules two years ago to exempt certain projects in the central Gulf region, according to an Associated Press review of official records.

The Minerals Management Service, an arm of the Interior Department known for its cozy relationship with major oil companies, says it issued the rule relief because some of the industry wide mandates weren't practical for all of the exploratory and production projects operating in the Gulf region.

[b]
The blowout rule, the fact that it was lifted in April 2008 for rigs that didn't fit at least one of five conditions, and confusion about whether the BP Deepwater Horizon project was covered by the regulation, caught the attention of Interior Secretary Ken Salazar.

[/b]Following a tour of a boom operation in Gulf Shores, Ala., Salazar said Wednesday that he understood BP was required to file plans for coping with a blowout at the well that failed.
'My understanding is that everything was in its proper place', said Salazar.

But an AP review of government and BP documents found that the company had not filed a specific comprehensive blowout plan for the rig that exploded April 20, leaving 11 workers dead and spewing an estimated 210,000 gallons of oil a day.

Instead, a site-specific exploration plan filed by BP in February 2009 stated that it was "not required" to file "a scenario for a potential blowout" of the Deepwater well.
When questioned about the exemption claim, BP spokesman William Salvin said provisions for handling a blowout incident were actually included in the firm's 582-page region oil spill plan, though he had difficulty pointing to specific passages.

He later maintained that the Deepwater location was not subject to the blowout scenario requirements because it triggered none of the conditions cited in the MMS's April 2008 notice to operators about a loosening of the rules.

The lack of a specific plan for the Deepwater project raises questions about whether BP could have been better prepared to deal with the ongoing disaster and whether MMS is fulfilling its regulatory oversight.

Robert Wiygul, an Ocean Springs, Miss., environmental lawyer, said the lack of a blowout scenario "is kind of an outrageous omission, because you're drilling in extremely deep waters, where by definition you're looking for very large reservoirs to justify the cost."

"If the MMS was allowing companies to drill in this ultra-deep situation without a blowout scenario, then it seems clear they weren't doing the job they were tasked with," he said. "The MMS can't change the law just by telling people that they don't have to comply with it. I think it really indicates that somebody at MMS was asleep at the switch on this."

In its 2009 exploration plan for the Deepwater Horizon site, BP strongly discounted the possibility of a catastrophic accident. Similarly, Shell's environmental impact analysis for its Beaufort Sea drilling plan asserts that the possibility of a "large liquid hydrocarbon spill ... is regarded as too remote and speculative to be considered a reasonably foreseeable impacting event."

The Deepwater Horizon disaster is not the first time MMS has been criticized as being too close to the oil industry.

In 2008, the Interior Department took disciplinary action against eight MMS employees who accepted lavish gifts, partied and - in some cases - had sex with employees from the energy companies they regulated. An investigation cited a "culture of substance abuse and promiscuity" involving employees in the agency's Denver office.

MMS workers were given upgraded ethics training.
Associated Press Writer Richard T. Pienciak reported from Atlanta; AP Writer Jay Reeves reported from Gulf Shores, Alaska.


*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…Don't believe ALL Oil companies are crooks and thugs? In Ireland we know all about it. Check out the VIDEO below of what we've had to deal with/go through with Shell Oil. If it doesn't disgust you, perhaps you support these 'NWO' gangs. Thanks/'S'

skylark
QUOTE (skylark @ May 9 2010, 02:05 PM) *
*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…Don't believe ALL Oil companies are crooks and thugs? In Ireland we know all about it. Check out the VIDEO below of what we've had to deal with/go through with Shell Oil. If it doesn't disgust you, perhaps you support these 'NWO' gangs. Thanks/'S'



*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…How about a Cheap/easy/highly effective way to CONTAIN/PICK UP the 'Oil Slick' in the Gulf? Would YOU go for it….want that? Don't even imagine that your 'Biggy' Oil Companies would consider such a thing at all. They are NOT ENVIRONMENTALISTS…are they?

OK, without further adieux, have a GOOD look at how 'American Redneck' thinking has come up with a solution to solve the SPILL and to preserve Nature. Feedback here would be nice & where did YOU and Yaeger go on this important event/story. I seem to be the only one interested??/'S' cool.gif

*CLICK below on the 'My Website' Link for this economical/workable/easy way:

skylark
QUOTE (skylark @ May 12 2010, 07:21 PM) *
*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…How about a Cheap/easy/highly effective way to CONTAIN/PICK UP the 'Oil Slick' in the Gulf? Would YOU go for it….want that? Don't even imagine that your 'Biggy' Oil Companies would consider such a thing at all. They are NOT ENVIRONMENTALISTS…are they?

OK, without further adieux, have a GOOD look at how 'American Redneck' thinking has come up with a solution to solve the SPILL and to preserve Nature. Feedback here would be nice & where did YOU and Yaeger go on this important event/story. I seem to be the only one interested??/'S' cool.gif

*CLICK below on the 'My Website' Link for this economical/workable/easy way:



*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…Someone BETTER do it the American 'Red Neck' way…check my Just previous REPLY and see. But now in reflection also note…It was most likely sabotage. It was insane to ever penetrate the Earth's crust in the first place. I dont think anyone on the planet has the authority to give someone permission to breach the Earth's crust. Check out what this 'Oil Spill' looks like on the 'My Website' Link below. Help us Hannah/'S'

simple simon
http://preview.bloomberg.com/news/2010-05-14/obama-sends-bomb-inventor-mars-expert-to-fix-bp-oil-spill-in-mexican-gulf.html?xid=huffbloomberg

http://tinyurl.com/289sj3b

U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu signaled his lack of confidence in the industry experts trying to control BP Plc’s leaking oil well by hand-picking a team of scientists with reputations for creative problem solving.

Dispatched to Houston by President Barack Obama to deal with the crisis, Chu said Wednesday that five “extraordinarily intelligent” scientists from around the country will help BP and industry experts think of back-up plans to cut off oil from the well, leaking 5,000 feet (1,500 meters) below sea-level.

Members of the Chu team are credited with accomplishments including designing the first hydrogen bomb, **inventing techniques for mining on Mars** and finding a way to precisely position biomedical needles….

<snip>
--------------------------------------
(I've highlighted the significant text)

erm, I did not know that we were mining on Mars...

what?

since when?

how do we get the materials back to Earth? (Using the 'jump rooms'? the space capable aircraft Gary McKinnon discovered when he hacked in to Nasa??)

Curious Simon
skylark
QUOTE (simple simon @ May 14 2010, 09:51 PM) *
http://preview.bloomberg.com/news/2010-05-14/obama-sends-bomb-inventor-mars-expert-to-fix-bp-oil-spill-in-mexican-gulf.html?xid=huffbloomberg

http://tinyurl.com/289sj3b

U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu signaled his lack of confidence in the industry experts trying to control BP Plc's leaking oil well by hand-picking a team of scientists with reputations for creative problem solving.

Dispatched to Houston by President Barack Obama to deal with the crisis, Chu said Wednesday that five "extraordinarily intelligent" scientists from around the country will help BP and industry experts think of back-up plans to cut off oil from the well, leaking 5,000 feet (1,500 meters) below sea-level.

Members of the Chu team are credited with accomplishments including designing the first hydrogen bomb, **inventing techniques for mining on Mars** and finding a way to precisely position biomedical needles….

<snip>
--------------------------------------
(I've highlighted the significant text)

erm, I did not know that we were mining on Mars...

what?

since when?

how do we get the materials back to Earth? (Using the 'jump rooms'? the space capable aircraft Gary McKinnon discovered when he hacked in to Nasa??)

Curious Simon


*JUST 'UPDATED' the 1st Page of this Topic,
...A wHOLE NEW TWIST TO THIS. Is the US 'Hushing up' facts that North Korean actuall Torpedoed this Oil Rig. Reports are NOW coming out...that this might be the case. Check out the story UPDATE on the 1st Page. Thanks/'S'
simple simon
QUOTE (skylark @ May 24 2010, 02:04 PM) *
*JUST 'UPDATED' the 1st Page of this Topic,
...A wHOLE NEW TWIST TO THIS. Is the US 'Hushing up' facts that North Korean actuall Torpedoed this Oil Rig. Reports are NOW coming out...that this might be the case. Check out the story UPDATE on the 1st Page. Thanks/'S'



Obama MUST NOT nuke it.

If he does, how can he be sure that it will work - without any other (even worse) side effects - such as earthquakes? Dare he trust advisors whose true intents may be different from what they say verbally?

Simon
skylark
QUOTE (simple simon @ May 24 2010, 03:40 PM) *
Obama MUST NOT nuke it.

If he does, how can he be sure that it will work - without any other (even worse) side effects - such as earthquakes? Dare he trust advisors whose true intents may be different from what they say verbally?

Simon


*Hey Simon,
...Don't imagine that you've read the UPDATE on the 1st Page of this topic?
Your'e not addressing the new development. I do know about 'Obams's' plan to 'Nuke' the Rig...but that's on 'delay', while 'they' sort out who's really responsible...the N. Koreans? Best/'S'


simple simon
Indeed I did Sweeps, altho' I only commented on the idea that Obama might agree with the use of nuke weapons to try and stop the oil leak in the GOM. My concern is that in doing this there could be unexpected side effects, such as the vibrations causing the New Madrid to show signs of activity. His advisors might convince him to do this because their true desire is to kill off the baby boomers who are now reaching retirement age - so will stop paying tax, and instead start drawing benefits - as well as wanting a global population level as advocated at the Georgia Guidestones. mad.gif

What I've also done is link to this thread on a thread on one of the Earthboppin boards.

Along with the Middle East the Korean situation is perhaps the other major unresolved hangover from the post WW2 period. I would wish that the resolution would be as peaceable as that of the Berlin Wall.

Alas I think that my wish will not come to pass, and instead the result will include rivers of human blood and (south of the boder) an attempt at a Pol Pot style resetting of the calendar to year zero. mad.gif

(I remember 1974, was a schoolboy at the time, and horrified at what I saw on the TV and how no-one stopped the nightmare)

Simon
skylark
QUOTE (simple simon @ May 24 2010, 08:10 PM) *
Indeed I did Sweeps, altho' I only commented on the idea that Obama might agree with the use of nuke weapons to try and stop the oil leak in the GOM. My concern is that in doing this there could be unexpected side effects, such as the vibrations causing the New Madrid to show signs of activity. His advisors might convince him to do this because their true desire is to kill off the baby boomers who are now reaching retirement age - so will stop paying tax, and instead start drawing benefits - as well as wanting a global population level as advocated at the Georgia Guidestones. mad.gif

What I've also done is link to this thread on a thread on one of the Earthboppin boards.

Along with the Middle East the Korean situation is perhaps the other major unresolved hangover from the post WW2 period. I would wish that the resolution would be as peaceable as that of the Berlin Wall.

Alas I think that my wish will not come to pass, and instead the result will include rivers of human blood and (south of the boder) an attempt at a Pol Pot style resetting of the calendar to year zero. mad.gif

(I remember 1974, was a schoolboy at the time, and horrified at what I saw on the TV and how no-one stopped the nightmare)

Simon


*Simon,
...Ain't gonna happen...the NUKE. Obama won't feature going down in history using one near the USA. But, and here's the scary part, NO War with N. Korea can be fought without NUKES. In back of the DMZ is the 2nd largest standing Army in the world, totaling 750 thousand Troops/Armor...and another Million or so around N. Korea. ANY War...will be a NUKE one and last about 30 seconds UNLESS ET's intervene/'S'
simple simon
Sweeps,

I just re-read your opening msg and realise that you also meant the US using nukes in Korea...

What about Tibetans RV'ing ET's stopping us humans having a nuke war? Over the years this has been all over the net.

I hope people realise that if we nuke N Korea then depending on which way the winds blows the fallout China may become involved. Thats physical fallout, the political fallout will be something else.

Why cant the US army just use the weapons it used in Iraq, weapons which turned tens of thousands of troops to dust... just use it on the leaders, leaving the ordinary people alone (at least providing they get the message and stop fighting). Much better than nukes.

Simon (lamenting your not having an emoticon for scared).

ps. just quoted this page at the Goldenthread.
skylark
QUOTE (simple simon @ May 24 2010, 08:47 PM) *
Sweeps,

I just re-read your opening msg and realise that you also meant nukes in Korea.

What about Tibetans RV'ing ET's stopping us humans having a nuke war? Over the years this has been all over the net.

I hope people realise that if we nuke N Korea then depending on which way the winds blows the fallout China may become involved. Thats physical fallout, the political fallout will be something else.

Why cant the US army just use the weapons it used in Iraq, weapons which turned tens of thousands of troops to dust... just use it on the leaders, leaving the ordinary people alone (at least providing they get the message and stop fighting). Much better than nukes.

Simon (lamenting your not having an emoticon for scared).

ps. just quoted this page at the Goldenthread.


*Simon and All,
...Well, didn't want to Suggest Nukes be used in Korea. 'They' could be hit with SCALAR Weapons...no radiation.
But, as per your insight, would love to spare civilians...so if in the position would 'go all out' to neutralize the N. Korean Armed Forces with Scalar weapony ASAP. Funny/cum maybe Ironic that the ET's haven't done a dam thing about the use of Scalar technology planet wide. We know it has been used, practiced, and exercised...with out any seeming protest demonstration by ET's.
Any war in Asia...MUST be quick/decisive/& NOT a Land War...as General Douglas McArthur so intelligently stated/'S'
captain
QUOTE (skylark @ May 24 2010, 09:25 PM) *
*Simon and All,
...Well, didn't want to Suggest Nukes be used in Korea. 'They' could be hit with SCALAR Weapons...no radiation.
But, as per your insight, would love to spare civilians...so if in the position would 'go all out' to neutralize the N. Korean Armed Forces with Scalar weapony ASAP. Funny/cum maybe Ironic that the ET's haven't done a dam thing about the use of Scalar technology planet wide. We know it has been used, practiced, and exercised...with out any seeming protest demonstration by ET's.
Any war in Asia...MUST be quick/decisive/& NOT a Land War...as General Douglas McArthur so intelligently stated/'S'


-Jumping in here on this guys_
-The US Navy is now going to join the South Korean Navy on its' exercises, and provide 'cover' and support for their ships at sea. Interesting huh? Guess we'll see if North Korean will challenge this combination of Navies. The US Navy will be using its' whole array of war ships, including submarines and NUKE guided Missle ships and aircraft carriers. Hmmm. Some fun over there watching what will happen. Well we all know that the North has been playing the 'BULLY' too long, and the only thing a Bully is frightened of is someone who 'takes him on'-Captain
skylark
QUOTE (captain @ May 24 2010, 10:45 PM) *
-Jumping in here on this guys_
-The US Navy is now going to join the South Korean Navy on its' exercises, and provide 'cover' and support for their ships at sea. Interesting huh? Guess we'll see if North Korean will challenge this combination of Navies. The US Navy will be using its' whole array of war ships, including submarines and NUKE guided Missle ships and aircraft carriers. Hmmm. Some fun over there watching what will happen. Well we all know that the North has been playing the 'BULLY' too long, and the only thing a Bully is frightened of is someone who 'takes him on'-Captain


*RIGHT 'cAP',
...Heard that. The latest is that N. Korea has severed ALL relations with the South/Seoul, and has closed off factories in the North where Both Countries nationals have been working together for years. Still looking for any more reports of 'them' being involved in the torpedoing of the Oil Rig. Is the US Covering all this up?/'S'
Yaeger
QUOTE (skylark @ May 25 2010, 09:49 PM) *
*RIGHT 'cAP',
...Heard that. The latest is that N. Korea has severed ALL relations with the South/Seoul, and has closed off factories in the North where Both Countries nationals have been working together for years. Still looking for any more reports of 'them' being involved in the torpedoing of the Oil Rig. Is the US Covering all this up?/'S'



Still not sure what to make of all this.. Reminds me of those "weapons of mass destruction" Iraq was supposed to have. That story was put out as an excuse to attack Iraq. This war gave Bush a second term in the White House. Currently Obama's approval rates are way down the toilet, but a successful military campaign could improve things for the Democrats in the upcoming mid-term elections and give Obama the much needed booster for 2012/Yaeger
simple simon
QUOTE (Yaeger @ May 27 2010, 07:59 PM) *
Still not sure what to make of all this.. Reminds me of those "weapons of mass destruction" Iraq was supposed to have. That story was put out as an excuse to attack Iraq. This war gave Bush a second term in the White House. Currently Obama's approval rates are way down the toilet, but a successful military campaign could improve things for the Democrats in the upcoming mid-term elections and give Obama the much needed booster for 2012.



hmm, re: the N Koreans, this is what a friend said to me by email...

"according to my dad who works in the industry-it was malpractice but not of BP as the other party who were
responsible for the equipment and must have known they were using a faulty pressure valve that basically did not close and caused the spill.
My Dad knows how the equipment works and explained to me exactly what happened.
I do not buy into a torpedo-sorry-thinks its a spoof."



So, maybe the stories about a company such as Haliburton are true?

Simon
skylark
QUOTE (simple simon @ May 27 2010, 10:07 PM) *

hmm, re: the N Koreans, this is what a friend said to me by email...

"according to my dad who works in the industry-it was malpractice but not of BP as the other party who were
responsible for the equipment and must have known they were using a faulty pressure valve that basically did not close and caused the spill.
My Dad knows how the equipment works and explained to me exactly what happened.
I do not buy into a torpedo-sorry-thinks its a spoof."



So, maybe the stories about a company such as Haliburton are true?

Simon


*Maybe, maybe not Simon,
...One thing seems to be sure though, Neither BP nor the US Government is being transparent on ANY of the issues especially the 'CLEAN UP'.
If 'they' were in earnest about cleaning up the mess/oil spill, there are existing technologies available RIGHT NOW. Well, check out the 'My Website' Video Link below...and see one such treatment program that has already been tested and used. There are MICROBES...which even exist in Nature...which actually EAT OIl...and leave no TOXIC RESIDUE. And it's fast...perhaps within 6 weeks, a TOTAL clean up could be achieved. It's almost like...'They' don't want to use this technology...and clean up the environmental mess. Thanks/'S'

simple simon
QUOTE (skylark @ May 31 2010, 10:22 AM) *
*Maybe, maybe not Simon,
...One thing seems to be sure though, Neither BP nor the US Government is being transparent on ANY of the issues especially the 'CLEAN UP'.
If 'they' were in earnest about cleaning up the mess/oil spill, there are existing technologies available RIGHT NOW. Well, check out the 'My Website' Video Link below...and see one such treatment program that has already been tested and used. There are MICROBES...which even exist in Nature...which actually EAT OIl...and leave no TOXIC RESIDUE. And it's fast...perhaps within 6 weeks, a TOTAL clean up could be achieved. It's almost like...'They' don't want to use this technology...and clean up the environmental mess. Thanks/'S'



But Sweeps, the idea is to cull the herd of the useless eaters, and those who know too much...

So such clever ideas are not what TPTB want right now. Once the population has fallen below 1 billion then thats when they start cleaning up in earnest.

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Of course this video promotes an excellent solution which is what should be being done, alongside stopping the leak.

Simon
skylark
QUOTE (simple simon @ May 31 2010, 01:21 PM) *
But Sweeps, the idea is to cull the herd of the useless eaters, and those who know too much...

So such clever ideas are not what TPTB want right now. Once the population has fallen below 1 billion then thats when they start cleaning up in earnest.

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Of course this video promotes an excellent solution which is what should be being done, alongside stopping the leak.

Simon


*YES Simon, difinitely got that right. What to do huh? We've put up several Videos...all with different highly workable quick solutions to the 'spilll'. I'm sure TPTB are aware such technologies exist/'S'
skylark
QUOTE (skylark @ May 31 2010, 08:26 PM) *
*YES Simon, difinitely got that right. What to do huh? We've put up several Videos...all with different highly workable quick solutions to the 'spilll'. I'm sure TPTB are aware such technologies exist/'S'


*'Sweeps' NOTE-WARNING FOLKS,
…BP buys Google, Yahoo search words to keep people away from real news on
Gulf oil spill disaster. Google is at the Bildenberg Conference. From now on, Don't
use Google…Boycott them. There are other search engines/'S'

In their most tenacious effort to control the 'spin' on the worst oil spill
disaster in the history, BP has purchased top internet search engine words
so they can re-direct people away from real news on the Deepwater Horizon
catastrophe.

simple simon
QUOTE (skylark @ Jun 8 2010, 10:57 AM) *
*'Sweeps' NOTE-WARNING FOLKS,
…BP buys Google, Yahoo search words to keep people away from real news on
Gulf oil spill disaster. Google is at the Bildenberg Conference. From now on, Don't
use Google…Boycott them. There are other search engines/'S'

In their most tenacious effort to control the 'spin' on the worst oil spill
disaster in the history, BP has purchased top internet search engine words
so they can re-direct people away from real news on the Deepwater Horizon
catastrophe.




Ye gads. corporate censorship!

I must admit though, I can understand why... but it won't help them. Nor us! The hit on BP's share value means that pensions funds are loosing money, and as a result people with private pensions are suffering too.


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I think everyone will find this to be of interest.

Its a dream image by a lady named MC who often posts on the earthboppin board. In short, it is being suggested that the GOM seabed will crack open, causing the most terrible disaster.

http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/theend/messages/9640.html

by clicking 'view entire thread' it is possible to read all the replies (too much to copy here).

Simon
skylark
QUOTE (simple simon @ Jun 11 2010, 12:35 AM) *
Ye gads. corporate censorship!

I must admit though, I can understand why... but it won't help them. Nor us! The hit on BP's share value means that pensions funds are loosing money, and as a result people with private pensions are suffering too.


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I think everyone will find this to be of interest.

Its a dream image by a lady named MC who often posts on the earthboppin board. In short, it is being suggested that the GOM seabed will crack open, causing the most terrible disaster.

http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/theend/messages/9640.html

by clicking 'view entire thread' it is possible to read all the replies (too much to copy here).

Simon


*Yes Simon and All,
...'The Sea Bed' may be about to crack alright, because now there are FLAMES coming from the oil head itself. That means it's ACTING(?) MORE like a Volcano. Here/below are the implications and an actual Video of the flames coming out. That could be expected...volcanic like eruptions...when one drills so deep and penetrates the MANTLE of the Earth itself/'S'

Visit My Website

There are flames at the well head in
BP's blown out gusher in the Gulf of Mexico.

We got some inside information that makes it clear that this is MUCH MUCH
worse than any official is prepared to admit.

This catastrophe has more world wide ramifications...because it is only ONE of
many earth changes that we are now experiencing.
simple simon
QUOTE (skylark @ Jun 12 2010, 12:11 AM) *
*Yes Simon and All,
...'The Sea Bed' may be about to crack alright, because now there are FLAMES coming from the oil head itself. That means it's ACTING(?) MORE like a Volcano. Here/below are the implications and an actual Video of the flames coming out. That could be expected...volcanic like eruptions...when one drills so deep and penetrates the MANTLE of the Earth itself/'S'


There are flames at the well head in
BP's blown out gusher in the Gulf of Mexico.

We got some inside information that makes it clear that this is MUCH MUCH
worse than any official is prepared to admit.

This catastrophe has more world wide ramifications...because it is only ONE of
many earth changes that we are now experiencing.


Sweeps,

This is expected; it was predicted by MC's dream messages.

I understand that the oil will reach the North Atlantic in mid to late summer, and eventually oil will reach Irish and British shores. I assume just the west coasts.

I have no information re: the North Sea.

The GOM is believed to be the site of an asteroid hit, many millennia ago. So, maybe the mantle there was liquified and then re-hardened? - in the process making it more susceptible to cracking if pierced??

I've also heard talk of forced evacuations of the areas near to the GOM.

Its a right royal mess, of the most catastrophic kind.

Simon

ps: those sinkholes suddenly appearing in various places, (especially central America) I wonder if they presage complete tracts of land being lost to the seas??
skylark
QUOTE (simple simon @ Jun 12 2010, 01:17 AM) *

Sweeps,

This is expected; it was predicted by MC's dream messages.

I understand that the oil will reach the North Atlantic in mid to late summer, and eventually oil will reach Irish and British shores. I assume just the west coasts.

I have no information re: the North Sea.

The GOM is believed to be the site of an asteroid hit, many millennia ago. So, maybe the mantle there was liquified and then re-hardened? - in the process making it more susceptible to cracking if pierced??

I've also heard talk of forced evacuations of the areas near to the GOM.

Its a right royal mess, of the most catastrophic kind.

Simon

ps: those sinkholes suddenly appearing in various places, (especially central America) I wonder if they presage complete tracts of land being lost to the seas??


*OK, FAMILIAR with the MC Dream Messages...don't know how that might play out but,
Here's the FATAL latest on the Oil situation. Not nice at all...as you say...catastrophic/'S'

What the scientists in the United States are not allowed to tell you in great fear of the Obama administration. They are under the threat of severe repercussions to the max.. Scientists confirming these findings cannot be named due to the above, but what they believe, they want to be known by all.

Take a U. S. map, lay it flat and measure inland just the minimum 50 miles of total destruction all around the Gulf of Mexico as to what you will read below. The carnage to the United States is so staggering, it will take your breathe away. Should what the scientists, who are trying to warn everyone about, is even close to be true... all of Florida will be completely destroyed and everyone and everything on it. You decide!! Everyone has the right to read what I have just written in this article, as well as to what is written below by the scientists who the Obama administration and BP are trying to shut up.

SUMMARY OF WHAT IS HAPPENING
The estimated super high pressure release of oil from under the earth's crust is between 80,000 to 100,000 barrels per day. The flow of oil and toxic gases is bringing up with it... rocks and sand which causes the flow to create a sandblasting effect on the remaining well head device currently somewhat restricting the flow, as well as the drilled hole itself.

As the well head becomes worn it enlarges the passageway allowing an ever-increasing flow. Even if some device could be placed onto the existing wellhead, it would not be able to shut off the flow, because what remains of the existing wellhead would not be able to contain the pressure.

The well head piping is originally about 2 inches thick. It is now likely to be less than 1 inch thick, and thinning by each passing moment. The oil has now reached the Gulf Stream and is entering the Oceanic current which is at least four times stronger than the current in the Gulf, which will carry it throughout the world within 18 months..

The oil along with the gasses, including benzene and many other toxins, is deleting the oxygen in the water. This is killing all life in the ocean. Along with the oil along the shores, there will be many dead fish, etc. that will have to be gathered and disposed of.

SUMMARY OF EXPECTATIONS
At some point the drilled hole in the earth will enlarge itself beneath the wellhead to weaken the area the wellhead rests upon. The intense pressure will then push the wellhead off the hole allowing a direct unrestricted flow of oil, etc.. The hole will continue to increase in size allowing more and more oil to rise into the Gulf. After several billion barrels of oil have been released, the pressure within the massive cavity five miles beneath the ocean floor will begin to normalize.

This will allow the water, under the intense pressure at 1 mile deep, to be forced into the hole and the cavity where the oil was. The temperature at that depth is near 400 degrees, possibly more. The water will be vaporized and turned into steam, creating an enormous amount of force, lifting the Gulf floor. It is difficult to know how much water will go down to the core and therefore, its not possible to fully calculate the rise of the floor.

The tsunami wave this will create will be anywhere from 20 to 80 feet high, possibly more. Then the floor will fall into the now vacant chamber. This is how nature will seal the hole. Depending on the height of the tsunami, the ocean debris, oil, and existing structures that will be washed away on shore and inland, will leave the area from 50 to 200 miles inland devoid of life. Even if the debris is cleaned up, the contaminants that will be in the ground and water supply will prohibit re-population of these areas for an unknown number of years.
simple simon
Bad for Mexico, Cuba, the Carribean, the countries with north-facing coasts in South America...

Whats the difference between a calamity and catastrophe? And does it matter?

The webbots talked of a '22' figure, but were not sure of the context. Could it be that 22 million perish?

Could it be that if we also include the food supply issues which affect Ireland / Britain / Europe too (oil wiping out Atlantic Ocean fish stocks), then 2.2 billion people are directly impacted by this?

Simon
skylark
QUOTE (simple simon @ Jun 12 2010, 05:33 PM) *
Bad for Mexico, Cuba, the Carribean, the countries with north-facing coasts in South America...

Whats the difference between a calamity and catastrophe? And does it matter?

The webbots talked of a '22' figure, but were not sure of the context. Could it be that 22 million perish?

Could it be that if we also include the food supply issues which affect Ireland / Britain / Europe too (oil wiping out Atlantic Ocean fish stocks), then 2.2 billion people are directly impacted by this?

Simon


*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…HOW Maybe, has the GOMexico Oil DISASTER affected UFO Disclosure and other Hidden Technologies? Well, get a read and CLICK on the 'My Website' Link below. Get informed, and get back with 'Your Takes' on this. Very interesting. Thanks/'S'

As set out in the Examiner.com article, the environmental, social and economic impact of the BP oil spill operation is catastrophic, though difficult to measure because of the lack of reliable information from the U.S. government and BP. Physicist Dr. Michio Kaku, who stated that "A hurricane strike in the Gulf of Mexico would dump an oil and water mixture all over the South, potentially reaching hundreds of miles inland," has addressed the possibility of "the oil leak lasting most of our lifetimes."

One report now indicates that "Florida Governor Charlie Crist is preparing to declare a major state of emergency in Florida with evacuation of coastal residents, especially those prone to the deadly benzene fumes, being a top priority for state emergency responders." Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL) has confirmed reports that the BP wellbore is pierced and oil seeping from seabed in multiple places.

Dispersants may compound the environmental and health impacts of the oil spill. "According to the Environmental Protection Agency about 1.08 million gallons of dispersant have been deployed in the Gulf, with 779,000 gallons used on the surface and 303,000 gallons used under the water. Jerald Ault, a professor at the University of Miami, said Corexit could have "significant" effects on the food chain and on environmental and human heath."

Examiner.com has documented the operational existence of Tesla-based teleportation as an operational technology for transporting goods and people over distances in the classified U.S. defense projects. Likewise preliminary evidence has established the existence of U.S. space vehicles using anti-gravity energy and other advanced propulsion systems.

The U.S. government has historically classified teleportation exclusively as a weapons technology, for transporting troops to battle locations, or personnel and goods between secure military bases.

The environmental, economic and social impacts of the BP oil leak operation may mobilize public awareness and political will to transform this policy decision, and make teleportation available for civilian use, worldwide.

How the BP oil leak operation may affect extraterrestrial disclosure, either by governments or by specific extraterrestrial civilizations themselves, is an unknown "wildcard."

One researcher has taken the view that a grey and reptilian-based extraterrestrial hyper-dimensional alliance is concerned about humanity because of our propensity to environmental degradation. The researcher highlights an environmental catastrophe as the trigger for open relations between humanity and the greys and grey-human hybrids. He states, "If these accounts of salvation are true, then the aliens' message is clear: After the catastrophe, whatever it is, takes place, the late-stage hybrids and perhaps the aliens themselves will engage in a general integration into human society. As one hybrid told [contactee] Claudia Negron, 'Soon all life will be changed. People will be different.' Presumably, we will all live in peace and harmony. The environment will be healthy and there will be no more war or conflict."

This Examiner.com article examines whether the BP oil spill operation is likely to accelerate disclosure of teleportation, anti-gravity energy and/or the extraterrestrial and UFO presence.

*CLICK below for this article:

simple simon
QUOTE
The U.S. government has historically classified teleportation exclusively as a weapons technology, for transporting troops to battle locations, or personnel and goods between secure military bases.


In itself to say that there is a technology but that it is restricted for the military is an admission that the technology exists. Wow, what a revalation. Tell this to 99% of the planetary population and they will be astounded, speechless, or jokingly ask that 'Scottie' 'beams them up'. Without further evidence few will believe.

As for the Reps and Zetans, well some of them have always said (pointed out, complained) that we humans are not worthy of this planet - and continued on by suggesting that they would make better stewards, if only they were given the chance. But is it not possible that behind the scenes one or more of them caused this event (even if through desire / mental force of will, if not active physical involvement) as it would both help strengthen their own case and would leave humans looking bad in forthcoming judgement type situation?

Simon
skylark
QUOTE (simple simon @ Jun 13 2010, 08:17 PM) *
In itself to say that there is a technology but that it is restricted for the military is an admission that the technology exists. Wow, what a revalation. Tell this to 99% of the planetary population and they will be astounded, speechless, or jokingly ask that 'Scottie' 'beams them up'. Without further evidence few will believe.

As for the Reps and Zetans, well some of them have always said (pointed out, complained) that we humans are not worthy of this planet - and continued on by suggesting that they would make better stewards, if only they were given the chance. But is it not possible that behind the scenes one or more of them caused this event (even if through desire / mental force of will, if not active physical involvement) as it would both help strengthen their own case and would leave humans looking bad in forthcoming judgement type situation?

Simon


*Howdy All,
...Many reasons now, why 'THEY' are talking EVACUATIONS. Here's a BIG one. Check the Video below, and give us your comments/opinions. Scary stuff folks/'S'

Visit My Website
simple simon
QUOTE (skylark @ Jun 17 2010, 07:07 PM) *
*Howdy All,
...Many reasons now, why 'THEY' are talking EVACUATIONS. Here's a BIG one. Check the Video below, and give us your comments/opinions. Scary stuff folks/'S'



Well Sweeps,

Once the situation became understood, this was 'sort of expected'.

As I understand it, not only the southern coastlines but also the whole of Florida will need evacuating, and once the Gulf stream starts taking the oily waters towards the Arctic, so some major east coast locations may be similarly afflicted.

What I do not know are timelines. I suspect that an attempt will be made to keep things appearing normal until at least 4th July, altho' if the air is heavy with flammable gases then I would not like to think of the potential with respect to any firework displays.

An issue which affects me is that I recently bought some computer training software from the USA, and they said that for a small amount more I could try their entire catalogue for a month. I can either cancel within the first month or they will bill me for the full amount. The training is sensible, it would see me gain more qualifications. But, they are in Florida, and if evacuated then I will be paying for something I will not be able to use.

Simon

skylark
QUOTE (simple simon @ Jun 17 2010, 09:44 PM) *
Well Sweeps,

Once the situation became understood, this was 'sort of expected'.

As I understand it, not only the southern coastlines but also the whole of Florida will need evacuating, and once the Gulf stream starts taking the oily waters towards the Arctic, so some major east coast locations may be similarly afflicted.

What I do not know are timelines. I suspect that an attempt will be made to keep things appearing normal until at least 4th July, altho' if the air is heavy with flammable gases then I would not like to think of the potential with respect to any firework displays.

An issue which affects me is that I recently bought some computer training software from the USA, and they said that for a small amount more I could try their entire catalogue for a month. I can either cancel within the first month or they will bill me for the full amount. The training is sensible, it would see me gain more qualifications. But, they are in Florida, and if evacuated then I will be paying for something I will not be able to use.

Simon


*OK Simon/All, more on the possibilities from this 'Drilling' into the Earth's Core:

*'Sweeps' NOTE:

…Hopefully, the information on these videos are not plausible. Unfortunately, the facts that are coming out from 'Reputable Sources' say 'THAT THE BUBBLE IS THERE'…so I think it is very possible. Quite a scary prospect. Have to watch these videos and make up you own minds, but if the 'Facts' are right…we are in for on Hellava Situation and world wide/'S'

Two Videos included in the Link below:

simple simon
Sweeps,

There is an 'estimated date' for when the trapped gas ignites and the mother of all horrors occurs.

The date comes from the webbots - around 8th - 11th November.

See this bog (which includes answers from Clif High, who is 'Mr Webbot') for further explanation.

Simon

http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/...ut-gulf-of.html
skylark
QUOTE (simple simon @ Jun 21 2010, 01:46 PM) *
Sweeps,

There is an 'estimated date' for when the trapped gas ignites and the mother of all horrors occurs.

The date comes from the webbots - around 8th - 11th November.

See this bog (which includes answers from Clif High, who is 'Mr Webbot') for further explanation.

Simon

http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/...ut-gulf-of.html


*OK/Right Simon,
...Read all that from Clif. Have to now maybe 'plan for November' huh? DAM. You're right...if all goes by the Mr. Webbot analysis of 'Web Chatter', we're in for something unprecedented Horrendous. Hope not, but figure 'Better prepared than not'. Buckle and battan down the hatches/'S'
Yaeger
Here is the latest from Alex Jones on the oil spill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNW0lkjTxAQ

His assessment of the situation discredits the claim that North Korea was involved. One thing is fore sure. This spill was no accident. It's a designed step towards unelected Socialist world government, financed with our tax dollars / euros / pounds.
simple simon
I saw somewhere a comment saying that in February this year there was a quake in the area where the oil is now leaking...

hmm, did they know that they were drilling into unstable ground?

Simon
Yaeger
QUOTE (simple simon @ Jun 22 2010, 10:35 PM) *
I saw somewhere a comment saying that in February this year there was a quake in the area where the oil is now leaking...

hmm, did they know that they were drilling into unstable ground?

Simon


We need more information about this. Exact location of quake and so on. A lot of rumours going around at the moment. But I am more than certain that this was not an accident.
simple simon
QUOTE (Yaeger @ Jun 23 2010, 06:11 PM) *
We need more information about this. Exact location of quake and so on. A lot of rumours going around at the moment. But I am more than certain that this was not an accident.



Have you heard the latest headlines?

For some reason a partial cap diverting leaking oil has been removed. Some sources say that an undersea robot crashed into it, BP say that they removed it after noticing something irregular about what it was bringing to the surface.

Also, two people connected with the oil leak but not neccessarily oil workers have died in mysterious circumstances - one in a swimming pool (held under???) and one from something like a heart attack.

Simon
skylark
QUOTE (simple simon @ Jun 23 2010, 08:07 PM) *


Have you heard the latest headlines?

For some reason a partial cap diverting leaking oil has been removed. Some sources say that an undersea robot crashed into it, BP say that they removed it after noticing something irregular about what it was bringing to the surface.

Also, two people connected with the oil leak but not neccessarily oil workers have died in mysterious circumstances - one in a swimming pool (held under???) and one from something like a heart attack.

Simon


*So many confusions/conspiracies/& speculation stuff in this Topic. Been trying to feret through it all, and have come up with about 100 Logical(?) histories/political 'false flag' possibilities/& NWO/Depopulation theories/cum investigative links...that just bedazzles and confounds our minds. To digest and get 'in play' with all these problems of 'Connection', you might have noticed, I've taken a bit of a Hiatus for about 3 days...waiting to see also what the 'members' might come up with. So, spent these days with Nicholos Mahut and John Isner at Wimbleton...and believe me didn't get much respite/rest with that either. Neither of them deserved to lose...though the American 'Isner' finally prevailed 70-68 games in the final 5th set.
AND now...still in full wrestle with this topic...and no end in sight, I'm committed to being back on the trail looking at all the facts and intuitions. This won't go away...in 'fact' will get much larger and effect the whole world eventually. Hang in there/'S'
Yaeger
The only ones benefiting from the incident are the Socialist pro-UN 'One-World'-Brigade. They now have an excuse to impose further taxation ( in the name of saving the planet) on consumers worldwide. Also Obama will now be able to use this incident as an excuse to take control of the oil industry as well Enough motive and opportunity for the government thugs and their bankster-gangster puppeteers to commit this crime. We all know they did it, but we don't know yet how.
skylark
QUOTE (Yaeger @ Jun 24 2010, 11:58 PM) *
The only ones benefiting from the incident are the Socialist pro-UN 'One-World'-Brigade. They now have an excuse to impose further taxation ( in the name of saving the planet) on consumers worldwide. Also Obama will now be able to use this incident as an excuse to take control of the oil industry as well Enough motive and opportunity for the government thugs and their bankster-gangster puppeteers to commit this crime. We all know they did it, but we don't know yet how.


*Yup, do tend to agree with you Yaeger...with MUCH evidence baring this out. You did leave out 'Global Warming' nut cases. Thanks/'S'

skylark
QUOTE (skylark @ Jun 25 2010, 07:41 PM) *
*Yup, do tend to agree with you Yaeger...with MUCH evidence baring this out. You did leave out 'Global Warming' nut cases. Thanks/'S'



*'Sweeps' NOTE:
…Below; Summary of investigation to date on the 'whys and wherefores' of the REASONS for the Oil Tragedy in the GOM. Make up your own minds folks, but this is what 'WE' have concluded to this point…So there is a lot of agreement with Richard Moore's assessments. Doesn't look pretty/'S'


The Gulf Gusher & the NWO Agenda
by Richard K. Moore

"It's clear where they're heading: forced evacuation to FEMA camps of millions of Gulf residents. In this way the NWO will be grabbing an opportunity to unleash martial law on a grand scale in the Southeastern USA, so that we'll all get used to it, like we got used to airport security and torture."
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As the NWO project has progressed, it has been very difficult to anticipate accurately how things are going to unfold.

9/11, for example, caught us completely off guard, and who could have predicted how rapidly the entire Constitution could be dismantled, along with international law, and have it all accepted by most Americans? Some things happen faster that we expect. With Iran, on the other hand, it seemed attack was imminent many times in the past few years, and yet it still hasn't occurred. Some things happen slower.

And then they throw things at us like the swine flu non-pandemic, and we still don't know what it was about. It certainly had nothing to do with public health, and pharmaceutical profits just doesn't seem like a strong enough motive for such a vigorous global campaign of disinformation. Perhaps it was all just to keep us off balance and confused, as we tried to find some rational scheme behind the fiasco. Or perhaps it was to test our various social defenses against vaccine warfare.

There is a lot of documentation about the New World Order, from the elites themselves, and other kinds of evidence. There are a few outcomes that are definitely included in the plans, even if we don't know the timing. These include world government (in essence if not in name), centralized control of currencies, drastic depopulation, and a major nuclear war.

(Illuminati Plays Its Cards, as in 1995 Card Game)

We need to recognize that this is no longer something in the future, something that might happen or might not happen. We are now in the midst of the switchover process. The toxic-bubble- collapse- bailout project was a clear sign that the switchover process has now been launched. With that one move, essential sovereignty was transferred from national governments to the financial elite. Greece is the poster child of this transfer, but it applies throughout the West. The Greece 'crisis' was a psy-op event aimed at giving other governments an excuse to tighten down austerity. It was like whipping one slave in front of the rest, so the rest will behave.

Once we recognize that the switchover process has begun, then we have no reason to expect it will proceed piecemeal, or at a slow pace, like an unfolding TV series. Instead we are seeing parallel assaults from different directions. And in any assault, it usually makes sense to get it over as quickly as possible, as we saw with the 9/11 assault on the Constitution.

Daniel Estulin and his friends tell us, from the very latest Bilderberger meeting, that the folks there are in a bit of disarray, and they're worried about people losing their fear, and beginning to resist. We need to remember however that Bilderberger is not a decision-making group. It is a place where filtered elite plans are discussed with secondary puppet elites... politicians, media moguls, and the like.

Bringing Bilderberger into line is simply one of the threads of the switchover process, not yet completed. Meanwhile, other threads of the switchover process can continue in parallel. The Soros article (below) gives us, more or less, a status report on the progress toward world government and global currency control. The attack on Iran will be the stepping stone toward a major nuclear war. Meanwhile, apart from the ongoing mega-genocide in Africa, what progress are they making toward depopulation? It is in this context that we need to consider the events in the Gulf.

When the Valdez spill occurred in Alaska, there was no reason to suspect that it was an intentional act, designed to destroy the local environment. It was clearly an accident, due to inadequate safety measures, and everyone involved wishes it had never happened. There was no motive for intentionality, even though there were means and opportunity.

But now in the Gulf, in the midst of a switchover process that calls for drastic depopulation, motive clearly enters the picture. What better way to move the project forward? Whatever toxic brew they cook up in the Gulf will be spread by the Gulf Stream all over the Atlantic Ocean and coastal areas, and into the global current system. And when the hurricanes begin, which they soon will, the toxic brew will be sprayed all over the Gulf region, making large areas of the coastal states, and probably all of Florida, uninhabitable and toxic to crops and creatures.

And it is indeed a toxic brew. They tapped into a major migration channel of abiotic oil, deep down at the level where volcanos originate, and all kinds of toxic gases are being released along with the oil, under enormous pressure that cannot be contained and is leaking out from many places in the Gulf. And in case that's not toxic enough, they're adding all that Corexit, a neuro toxin banned in Europe because of bitter experience with its toxicity.

None of this can be chalked up to accident. The geological properties of the area, and the nature of the deep oil system, were well known to the experts. The Gulf is one of the oldest and most studied drilling areas in the world. Any legitimate attempt to tap into that deep oil system would have called for better-than- usual safety measures, not systematically shoddy safety measures. Deep Water Horizon was an accident meant to happen, and the witnesses have been scared into silence.

Consider in addition these points, from the 'BP Oil Spill False Flag' article above:
- Sales of shares and stocks in days and weeks beforehand
- Halliburton link, acquisition of cleanup company days before explosion
- BP report cites undocumented tampering with well sealing equipment

So we have motive, means, opportunity, and an abundance of circumstantial evidence, all pointing to an intentional depopulation project. In conclusion, let's consider the modus operandi of the NWO, the parallels between this operation and some of their other operations.

First of all, there's the 'shock and awe' tactic: a decisive and unexpected first-strike into new apocalyptic territory: first 9/11, then the financial collapse, and now the gusher. Each one, in its own way, changing the world instantly and forever, and each covered over by a systematic disinformation campaign in the global mass media, and a confusion campaign in the alternative media and in conspiracy circles.

Second, there's the 'shock doctrine' tactic: grabbing as much apocalyptic territory as possible, after the first strike. With 9/11, they grabbed the Constitution and the justification for two wars. With the financial collapse, they got by with the bailout scam, and grabbed the West's national treasuries.

They haven't starting grabbing yet in the case of the gusher, but it's clear where they're heading: forced evacuation to FEMA camps of millions of Gulf residents. In this way the NWO will be grabbing an opportunity to unleash martial law on a grand scale in the Southeastern USA, so that we'll all get used to it, like we got used to airport security and torture. It's not that elites like martial law particularly, it's just that the switchover project can't succeed without martial law being readily deployable wherever needed.

The folks who will be evacuated from the Gulf region can expect the same kind of 'relief' that was experienced by the folks in New Orleans and Haiti, which were practice exercises for the NWO's disaster-relief protocol. This protocol is an expression of the shock doctrine, and what it means is that disaster victims are treated more or less as insurgents, and the investment bankster vultures come in to lay claim to whatever assets have been freed up by the forced relocations. Each disaster is a new redevelopment opportunity, and those who die contribute to the depopulation agenda. That's why relief supplies were blocked by the US military from being distributed in Haiti during the first few critical days, to make sure those trapped by the earthquake wouldn't survive.

To bring about the financial collapse, they injected toxic derivatives into the global investment streams. To bring about a major ecosystem collapse, they injected a toxic soup into the global ocean streams. Their fingerprints are everywhere.
simple simon


Youtube video

Entitled 'first amendment has been suspended' the video says that the press must stay 65 ft away or face a class D felony and $40,000 fine....


This is very baaad, but not at all surprising.

Some people on Earthboppin are having dreams which suggest that its now time to relocate, before something very bad happens. Elsewhere I've seen the date of 20th July being talked about.
simple simon
One of the ladies at earthboppin who has been receiving dream warnings about this oil event for years recently reported having dreams where some ancient Shamens were watching the events in the GOM and told her that they've never seen anything like this before.

In other words, this is truly an unprecedented event.

Simon
skylark
QUOTE (simple simon @ Jul 7 2010, 10:38 PM) *
One of the ladies at earthboppin who has been receiving dream warnings about this oil event for years recently reported having dreams where some ancient Shamens were watching the events in the GOM and told her that they've never seen anything like this before.

In other words, this is truly an unprecedented event.

Simon


*Right Simon/All,
...Wonder what your 'Dream Lady' and Shamans would say about the following and the VIDEO report on it? Damned Tryanny comes to mind/'S'


The aggressive government censorship of the Gulf
of Mexico oil catastrophe has reached nearly unbelievable
proportions.

incontrovertible evidence we are living in the functional
equivalent of a Nazi-style corporate dictatorship with
oil companies, and the Wall Street banks that own them,
calling ALL the shots at the expense of millions of people.

simple simon
something wicked this way comes (almost here)

Simon
simple simon
well the media is telling us that the cap has worked... meanwhile Mitch at Earthchanges TV.com says that he has inside info from sources inside BP's tightly gripped circle suggesting that this is a lie and that the cap will fail and the oil will continue to gush out - with the only hope being the relief wells which come on stream next month (August).

We shall see...

There is speculation as to whether trying to cap the wells will only cause the pressure to build up even more - until there is a final 'very big bang' and something truly nasty comes to pass.

Of course being an expert on just about everything I know the answer (I wish!)

Simon
simple simon
Sent to me by someone (possibly channeled info).

erm, OK, but what about that toxic clean up substance the name of which I cannot spell (corexit)? that is being used instead of the safer solution Sweeps featured some weeks ago... ??? unsure.gif

Simon


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On the very bright side, Beloveds, never in peace time history has there been such a gallant effort, by so many people, spending so many billions of dollars with no end in sight, to rapidly clean up your environment.

Never before have numerous heads of state and representatives of a corporation as large as many smaller nations, pledged to work together, sharing expertise and resources to get a job done.

Never before have so many prayer and meditation groups suddenly formed, amongst and in between every religion and those belonging to none, to foster healing of your precious planet.

Never before have finger pointers, conspiracy theorists, and blame mongers been so idle and unnecessary in the face of such a tragedy.

Never before have industry titans across every sea chosen to reexamine their own safety procedures, revisit their own environmental safeguards, and expend their own fortunes to voluntarily reflect upon and demand that they do an even better job from this day forward.

And to top it all off your planet has a loving, brilliant consciousness all her own, and of her countless balancing acts, healing herself is one in which she truly shines.

Of this, and so much more, you can be very, very proud.

Yee-haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
The Universe
skylark
QUOTE (simple simon @ Jul 16 2010, 05:07 PM) *
Sent to me by someone (possibly channeled info).

erm, OK, but what about that toxic clean up substance the name of which I cannot spell (corexit)? that is being used instead of the safer solution Sweeps featured some weeks ago... ??? unsure.gif

Simon


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On the very bright side, Beloveds, never in peace time history has there been such a gallant effort, by so many people, spending so many billions of dollars with no end in sight, to rapidly clean up your environment.

Never before have numerous heads of state and representatives of a corporation as large as many smaller nations, pledged to work together, sharing expertise and resources to get a job done.

Never before have so many prayer and meditation groups suddenly formed, amongst and in between every religion and those belonging to none, to foster healing of your precious planet.

Never before have finger pointers, conspiracy theorists, and blame mongers been so idle and unnecessary in the face of such a tragedy.

Never before have industry titans across every sea chosen to reexamine their own safety procedures, revisit their own environmental safeguards, and expend their own fortunes to voluntarily reflect upon and demand that they do an even better job from this day forward.

And to top it all off your planet has a loving, brilliant consciousness all her own, and of her countless balancing acts, healing herself is one in which she truly shines.

Of this, and so much more, you can be very, very proud.

Yee-haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
The Universe



*Yo Simon,
...Maybe someone should tell this 'channel Clown'...that 'Pride Goeth Before A Fall'. I mean...such rubbish. Nevermind...things are happening in a quickened pace now, & things will never be the same./'S'
simple simon
QUOTE (skylark @ Jul 16 2010, 05:20 PM) *
*Yo Simon,
...Maybe someone should tell this 'channel Clown'...that 'Pride Goeth Before A Fall'. I mean...such rubbish. Nevermind...things are happening in a quickened pace now, & things will never be the same./'S'



I know, altho' it is true that many Americans are taking note & showing concern, albeit only because it affects them - where was the concern when the chemical plant exploded at Bhopal, for instance?

Today the msm is full of the new cap on the oil well, but at least they have also told us that Obama is warning that until the relief wells are operational the danger still remains. BP shares are on the way up again...

Only 'alternative news' sources talk about the cracks in the sea bed - and what is being said is not what people would want to hear.

From alternative sources I've also heard that once sailors reach a few miles from shore they are becoming ill from the toxic air / fumes, which is most certainly a very bad sign.

So what next?

The webbots suggest 'something catastrophically bad' and that the coming months are likely to see as many as 1.25 billion people perishing - although it seems that some of this will be from undersea tectonic activity causing tsunamis which hit India.

As for America, possibly the GOM fractures exploding and taking the New Madrid & central America with them, as well as flooding Texas and causing the west coast (California, etc) to go. Thats if the predictive speculation proves to be correct.

We are in the period which for years remote viewers were saying they could not see (actively blocked) - they could see 'before' (up to about Feb 2010) and 'after' (when far fewer people are about) but not the few years from 2010 to 2012/3.


Its now too late to stop things from happening, the genie is out of the bottle, and events are set in motion. The sensible thing would be to evacuate the danger areas, but it seems that this will only happen when body bags are needed.

Simon
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